Lucy Letby (8 Viewers)

Saddlebrains

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If true, which it seems to be judging by the swiftness of the CPS, must be up there with the worst crimes ever commited in this country
 

clint van damme

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Looking at the names of the victims it looks like there might have been a set of twins. Absolutely heart breaking.
 

chiefdave

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Can't get my head round this sort of thing. Its so far beyond comprehension its hard to even process it.

BBC article says she has been arrested twice previously as part of investigations into deaths at the hospital but clearly was never charged. Can't imagine the police keep targeting one person if they aren't certain thats the right person so lets hope she gets the most severe punishment possible this time.
 

stay_up_skyblues

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Yes third time she has been pinched over it so they must be pretty sure. Beyond belief and the scourge of humanity, if you can even call her that.

Lots of female prisoners, especially those with children, I’m sure would have a number of things they’d like to do to her. Sadly she’ll get the Rose West/Myra Hindley treatment and a cushty little area to herself for her own safety.
 
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RegTheDonk

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Horrendus. I remember Beverly Allitt and thought at the time, what kind of woman could do something like that, thankfully that'll surely never happen again. Such sympathy to the parents.
 

Grendel

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Grendel

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So what would you do?

If guilty execute her Beverley Allitt has spent 30 years inside and is only 52 - what is the point
 

Grendel

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In this case i would agree and the same in most clear cases of murder too.

Whole life tariff prisoners are a pointless cost. Brady wanted to die and we spent £5 million in medical fees and legal challenges to keep him alive
 

Ian1779

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Whole life tariff prisoners are a pointless cost. Brady wanted to die and we spent £5 million in medical fees and legal challenges to keep him alive
I don’t know much about why the death penalty was abolished to be honest.
 

fernandopartridge

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Whole life tariff prisoners are a pointless cost. Brady wanted to die and we spent £5 million in medical fees and legal challenges to keep him alive
I am not an advocate of the death penalty but think maybe whole life term convicts are given the option to be executed
 

Saddlebrains

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I dont see why in this day and age we don't have the death penalty. The advances
of DNA and fine tooth comb evidence, phone info etc usually puts the conviction beyond all doubt.



Id put nonses on the execute list also, however feel the best punishment for them is to be locked in a room for 30 minutes with the father of thier victim and see if they walk out. I cant fight sleep but if anyone interfered with my 2 id happily do time physically removing their testicles and kneecaps 🤷‍♂️
 

Ian1779

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What is it about certain crimes that makes people want to compete to describe all the gruesome ways they would deal with the criminals?

Like, we get it, you’re opposed to child murder and paedophilia, we all are, there aren’t any special prizes for having the most medieval response.
I think it’s the thought of transferring it to a personal situation involving our loved ones.
 

SBT

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I think it’s the thought of transferring it to a personal situation involving our loved ones.

I’ve got family too - does it mean I love them less if I haven’t devised my own personal torture program for people who try to hurt them or should I start researching the best vigilante methods?
 

Grendel

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What is it about certain crimes that makes people want to compete to describe all the gruesome ways they would deal with the criminals?

Like, we get it, you’re opposed to child murder and paedophilia, we all are, there aren’t any special prizes for having the most medieval response.

An injection would be fine. In the end it spares the various torture methods they will get in prison or in the case of the delightful Robert John Maudsley spare other prisoners having their brains removed from their skull in a prison cell.
 

shmmeee

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I’m against state sanctioned murder. It demeans us as a society

Just my opinion

Same. Don’t fancy giving government the ability to murder citizens. And it’s giving in to our basest urges. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Easy to say “do it for clear cut cases”, but the justice system is pretty binary guilty/not guilty.

All for allowing euthanasia mind. If anyone of sound mind decides they don’t want to live let them go.
 

Ian1779

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How would people feel about allowing convicted lifers for murder to be euthanised if they chose to?
 

Grendel

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How would people feel about allowing convicted lifers for murder to be euthanised if they chose to?

no I wouldn’t actually
 

Johnnythespider

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How would people feel about allowing convicted lifers for murder to be euthanised if they chose to?
So the problem with this as i see it is we allow convicted murderers to get out of the punishment handed down by the courts, i would want them to rot in prison and the thought of them pleading for death but not getting their wish would bring me comfort.
I don't think cost is a good enough reason to execute somebody or where does that end, somebody who spends their life going in and out of prison for less serious crimes being executed because of the cost of all the court cases and putting them up at her majesty's pleasure, infanticide is the worst of crimes to reason with, but human history is littered with it, past civilisations regularly using it to weed out the weakest born, this woman is clearly insane but our revulsion at her crimes (if proved) show how far human civilisation has come, reintroducing the death penalty would be a backward step i think.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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How would people feel about allowing convicted lifers for murder to be euthanised if they chose to?

No problem with it UNLESS there are victims who've yet to be found and the loved ones won't allow it until they've revealed where they are and the remains found and identified.
 

Ian1779

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No problem with it UNLESS there are victims who've yet to be found and the loved ones won't allow it until they've revealed where they are and the remains found and identified.
I think that is an important point. The victims families must have their needs taken in account.
 

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