Match Thread Birmingham City (19 Viewers)

[clint van damme]

I have to say I genuinely don't know what Biamou brings to the table in this division as he doesn't seem to offer anything.

But how much would it have cost us to replace him with someone like, say the Juke, who put in a Biamouesque display of finishing tonight?

 

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[87 n all that]

4th from bottom is all we need to do this season. No idea how we’re going to do it because the squad lacks quality but I’d stick to 3 CH’s and 2 strikers from now on.

 

[cc84cov]

4th from bottom is all we need to do this season. No idea how we’re going to do it because the squad lacks quality but I’d stick to 3 CH’s and 2 strikers from now on.

Sheff Wednesday won’t be there either wjll derby once their spending on players after their take over

 

[Saddlebrains]

Wycombe, Derby and Wednesday win tomorrow and we’re joint bottom. Could be 6 points off 20th.

We're not meant to panic though

 

[matesx]

Joy needs to open her purse ( oooo errrr)

 

[Liquid Gold]

But how much would it have cost us to replace him with someone like, say the Juke, who put in a Biamouesque display of finishing tonight?

Juke was the Juke I remember for us tonight. Got into great positions then missed the target or hit the woodwork.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It won us the league last year lol. No question?

Man i find it hard to chat to you lately

No doubt you feel the same

Till the next march thread friend!

We're in a different league and we don't have the technical ability or physicality up front to replicate it this season. It can't be debated that we were much more of a threat since changing to 5-3-2 and tonight highlighted it, even when Walker did the business there was nobody up with him to capitalise. The commentators tonight recognised as much almost immediately.

Even you must admit that for all my perceived and actual whining I also say constructive things about what I think should be done and it's tended to be borne out in the games. I'm not sat here hoping we struggle I'm wanting us to show some self-belief

 

[covcity4life]

We're in a different league and we don't have the technical ability or physicality up front to replicate it this season. It can't be debated that we were much more of a threat since changing to 5-3-2 and tonight highlighted it, even when Walker did the business there was nobody up with him to capitalise. The commentators tonight recognised as much almost immediately.

Even you must admit that for all my perceived and actual whining I also say constructive things about what I think should be done and it's tended to be borne out in the games. I'm not sat here hoping we struggle I'm wanting us to show some self-belief

Not sure it's constructive to say this must change then get angry afyer 20 mins of a new formation

We gave away most chances when changed formstion. Sheaf should have stayed on

Interesting to see who h formstion we start with vs Cardiff. I like both as long as continue to play it on deck

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

The main positives are a clean sheet and Walker continuing to look lively. That said we really could have done with a win against a side that was there for the taken and to whom we posed few threats. We weren't conceding bags of goals because of our formation, it was stupid errors and we still made plenty even before he reverted to 5-3-2

Dabo yet to return to full fitness, Godden to come back into the side, Walker finally finding his feet, finally being able to say we kept a clean sheet. There's plenty of positives to take from the game.

Agreed I don't think the formation was necessarily at fault but at the same time I don't know whether 3 at the back is always the correct option against some of the better sides in the division. It's a formation that can actually leave the team quite open to counter attacks. Also, in my opinion one of the weakest links in the last few weeks was Rose.

 

[clint van damme]

Juke was the Juke I remember for us tonight. Got into great positions then missed the target or hit the woodwork.

And I bet we'd all have him back in a heartbeat but we are hamstrung by budget. It's a big challenge to stay up.

I think we can do.it but I wouldn't say we definitely will.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

But how much would it have cost us to replace him with someone like, say the Juke, who put in a Biamouesque display of finishing tonight?

A valid point, but I think in hindsight it was wrong to keep both Baka and Biamou as both are clearly not up to the standard unfortunately.

 

[covcity4life]

A valid point, but I think in hindsight it was wrong to keep both Baka and Biamou as both are clearly not up to the standard unfortunately.

Biamou baka Shipley Allen all be gone if we stay up

 

[ICHAN]

IMO (dont post much anymore) but after watching tonight I think with Kyle Walker tonight he will be a good partner with matty, IMO he has a forwards brain and you could see what he was trying to to, the most important thing was keeping a clean sheet for the defenders confidence, and at least after 70 odds minutes MR changed it to try and get the win, the way we know how to get a goal, (although we always look like we can concede), although don’t think Hamer got into the game at all sadly.

 

[Liquid Gold]

And I bet we'd all have him back in a heartbeat but we are hamstrung by budget. It's a big challenge to stay up.

I think we can do.it but I wouldn't say we definitely will.

Vital that we do though. We know we’re not building the UoW dome and championship money will keep us going.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Not sure it's constructive to say this must change then get angry afyer 20 mins of a new formation

We gave away most chances when changed formstion. Sheaf should have stayed on

Interesting to see who h formstion we start with vs Cardiff. I like both as long as continue to play it on deck

I never said we should change the 5-3-2.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

IMO (dont post much anymore) but after watching tonight I think with Kyle Walker tonight he will be a good partner with matty, IMO he has a forwards brain and you could see what he was trying to to, the most important thing was keeping a clean sheet for the defenders confidence, and at least after 70 odds minutes MR changed it to try and get the win, the way we know how to get a goal, (although we always look like we can concede), although don’t think Hamer got into the game at all sadly.

Kyle Walker

 

[Adge]

Bloke on radio saying biamou changed the game and compared him to Cyrille Regis

Jeez!

 

[clint van damme]

A valid point, but I think in hindsight it was wrong to keep both Baka and Biamou as both are clearly not up to the standard unfortunately.

But even if we'd replaced them it would have been with a speculative buy from a lower league which may or may not have worked

Buying a proven Championship striker was not within our price range.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Biamou baka Shipley Allen all be gone if we stay up

I agree with this, you can’t just change everything in one year. We should have bought in championship experience though, like we tried when we were promoted to league 1.

 

[Frostie]

IMO (dont post much anymore) but after watching tonight I think with Kyle Walker tonight he will be a good partner with matty, IMO he has a forwards brain and you could see what he was trying to to, the most important thing was keeping a clean sheet for the defenders confidence, and at least after 70 odds minutes MR changed it to try and get the win, the way we know how to get a goal, (although we always look like we can concede), although don’t think Hamer got into the game at all sadly.

 

[Macca]

Joy needs to open her purse ( oooo errrr)

I’ll eat Joys purse if we stay up this year

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Dabo yet to return to full fitness, Godden to come back into the side, Walker finally finding his feet, finally being able to say we kept a clean sheet. There's plenty of positives to take from the game.

Agreed I don't think the formation was necessarily at fault but at the same time I don't know whether 3 at the back is always the correct option against some of the better sides in the division. It's a formation that can actually leave the team quite open to counter attacks. Also, in my opinion one of the weakest links in the last few weeks was Rose.

I think a major issue was/is the continued absence of a natural right footer from RWB. Tonight was not the time for a more cautious approach

 

[clint van damme]

Vital that we do though. We know we’re not building the UoW dome and championship money will keep us going.

If we don't either get back to the Ricoh or build a ground then we aren't going too survive in this league and ultimately survive anyway

 

[Liquid Gold]

I never said we should change the 5-3-2.

The formation looked alright to me. I thought Osti must have been unfit but he looked good when he came on. Our problem wasn’t playing well it was making idiotic mistakes. The formation change didn’t work.

 

[ICHAN]

It's unbelievable this year.
Some guy saying he'd drop Walker next game for Biamou and that anyone who thinks Walker was worth MOTM is mental

Didn’t see the point of max as he didn’t change the game all tbh, could have put hamer up front or coh ?

 

[Londonccfcfan]

Biamou baka Shipley Allen all be gone if we stay up

Add Kelly and possibly McFadz.

 

[Liquid Gold]

If we don't either get back to the Ricoh or build a ground then we aren't going too survive in this league and ultimately survive anyway

Don’t, I’m depressed enough as it is.

 

[87 n all that]

There’s too much passing around at the back and sooner or later we’ll get caught out. O’Hare isn’t really cutting it in an attacking creative role either. He puts a shift in but might be better off the bench. There’s no one really to replace him in that role apart from Shippers or Allen and can’t see either of them being the answer.

 

[87 n all that]

Add Kelly and possibly McFadz.

Think quite a few on that list might be loaned out in January to hopefully bring in better quality. Add Pask to the list.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The formation looked alright to me. I thought Osti must have been unfit but he looked good when he came on. Our problem wasn’t playing well it was making idiotic mistakes. The formation change didn’t work.

That's my thought as well. Despite not being 100% Dabo was still turning on the gas in the short patch he was on during 5-3-2, which tells me he'd have been a threat if we went with it from the start. This other setup should only be used to see out a result

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Think quite a few on that list might be loaned out in January to hopefully bring in better quality. Add Pask to the list.

Where is the money coming from for the better quality? We no longer have any sell on fees which have funded the club for the past couple of seasons

 

[Liquid Gold]

All of those players are going to be on low wages though. We’re not going to decimate the squad to bring in one player.

 

[fernandopartridge]

We're not meant to panic though

The rest of the table isn't set either ffs. How can you go from brainless baseless optimism in the corona thread to this in the football one? I would have preferred to win tonight but we didn't lose and didn't concede. We've had a lot of injury problems, adapted to the pace of the higher level and now can start to settle down. Blues aren't a great side but we didn't look like we didn't belong at the same level as them.

 

[Grendel]

And I bet we'd all have him back in a heartbeat but we are hamstrung by budget. It's a big challenge to stay up.

I think we can do.it but I wouldn't say we definitely will.

Robins of course decided to resign bakayoko and now clearly will never play him again

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

But even if we'd replaced them it would have been with a speculative buy from a lower league which may or may not have worked

Buying a proven Championship striker was not within our price range.

We were never in the market for a Championship striker even as a starter, let alone as a 3rd/4th choice. Not when starting bids for wages begin at 15k. So, that point is a non-starter.

But both Biamou and Baka are far less than what's required with regards to ability. Personally, I think in hindsight promotion to the Championship would have been the optimal time to part ways. Whether their hypothetical replacement would have faired any better is entirely speculative - especially as they would have had to be plucked from a lower division - but perhaps Robins could have at least brought a player in to develop. A ship that as certainly sailed for Biamou and I feel has also perhaps sailed for Baka.