87 n all that
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Agree with this and looks (?) to have removed some of the rash fouls he gives away. Does anyone think he can do the role behind the strikers? Lots of movement and passing potential with hamer I think?
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Londonccfcfan
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So..??? Lol wycombe are not worthy.?
Jacobson is a very good player..should be higher he's had a couple of decent goals and assists scratched off too for little old wycombe.
BornSlippySkyBlue
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Genuinely, I think he could be our next big transfer fee, if we play to his strengths and iron out his wrinkles. Level? No idea, but certainly our level.
87 n all that
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When we play them target grimmers side of the pitch. Wembley goal aside, he’s not a good defender
SlowerThanPlatt
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Jacobson is not a very good player at Championship level, he’s 33 and has played at League 2 and League 1 for the majority of his career.
cc84cov
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He’s Walsh’s replacement
Londonccfcfan
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Again your talking about your opinion.
Stats back up he's 6th for chances created.
He's not worthy as he's played most his career league 1 and 2.
What bollocks do you talk.?
Players who get promoted from playing most their careers in lower divisions don't take step up???
You talk nonsense.
Londonccfcfan
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Simple really play your best players in their best positions Robins.
BornSlippySkyBlue
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He did play for Zwolle as a right sided defensive player, no idea if that was his main position. You’d think in our current situation if MR thought he was an option at RWB he’d have been given a go when we have no / few other options, but as we’ve never seen it happen I have no idea if he can do it for us in the Championship.
Interesting question though.
87 n all that
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I’m talking if rwb becomes a problem with dabo not fit but playing and dacosta out
cc84cov
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That’s already been happening all season
87 n all that
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We have fitness issues at rwb so if necessary
Terry Gibson's perm
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It’s a no brainier for me you play Hamer and then put somebody alongside him he is the player most likely to make something happen at the moment
SlowerThanPlatt
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What I’m saying is it doesn’t tell the full story, if you take all the set pieces and are good at them you will rank high in key passes. I would be more interested in open play key passes to judge a players creativity as that’s where the majority of goals come from.
He has 1 assist this season - either the chances created are of little value or our players can’t finish.
BornSlippySkyBlue
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Didn’t seem to work for him (based on one game) yesterday, but then he seemed to be holding back a bit. Presumably he’s been told to reign it in a bit, and this is the issue with his type of player, finding the sweet spot between getting sent off and showing tenacity that we desperately need in midfield. Hamer is a quality player, but looks to me like he needs an arm around his shoulders and a softly softly approach. He looks like he wants to learn (which is massively important) is adjusting to the English leagues and has the raw ability to be a quality player, if a little erratic at times.
Some of his passes are way above the level we’ve been used to, his teammates and he need to get used to each other. They’re learning every game.
If he doesn’t end up adding more than he costs, I’ll be amazed
Londonccfcfan
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Agreed.
Doesn't tell you full picture.
As for his chances created....only 1 assist? Ah yess the 2nd goal vs Watford was Biamous assist not his.
The answer is our players can't finish..prime example was vs QPR where he put the ball on a plate for 2/3 free headers before the actual Mcfadz goal.
Londonccfcfan
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100% agree.
The opposition players are already targeting his suspect composure.
There was one naughty deliberate late tackle on him yesterday and you could see he was ticking...he wanted revenge.
BornSlippySkyBlue
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Do think that if Godden and Walker were in there looking for the crosses and scraps, we’d be scoring more freely, even with a defensive set up behind them. If we can utilise the likes of Hamer and O’Hare more effectively, we can get the ball to those front two and they will do damage to teams. Seem enough of Walker now to know that he has quality, and we know that Godden does. Maybe the sum of the parts won’t be greater than the individuals, but even them both playing independently would be more of a threat than we’ve seen so far. But I think they will click personally. Let’s wait and see (if we ever manage to get a full-strength team together)
BornSlippySkyBlue
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Indeed, but he didn’t do it. First game he’d have smashed him. He’s learning on the job and has already accepted that he won’t get away with it in this league. At 23 he is still learning, and I’m glad he’s doing it with us. If he’s not quality in a couple of years then I’ll bump this thread myself and hold my hands up to being as clueless as I am
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All of the above. Hamer could do that role in the behind the strikers role because he can pass the ball but doubt it will happen. He’s learning quick which is a good thing
Mucca Mad Boys
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Hamer is second in the league for chances created...
SlowerThanPlatt
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I’m aware, if you delve a little deeper you would see the chances created are of little value and can’t expect many goals from
There will be players who have created less chances but better chances for his team
Terry_dactyl
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What’s all this about? Hamer is quality and clearly our best player. He wasn’t amazing vs Birmingham but still had moments of class.
Jamesimus
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I think he will become a player who's value is much greater than the 1 million or so that we paid for him. Maybe not above Championship level, but he can certainly hold his own in centre-mid playing against players in this divison who have commanded much higher transfer fees.
His worst game for us so far was the Birmingham one, but he didn't get sent-off and was played out of position.
stevefloyd
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He is absolutely scared of tackling too...goes missing because he don't seem to want to get near a player unless he's playing catch up and pushes someone in the back...wouldn't like him next to me in the trenches for sure !!!
shmmeee
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We’ve got to go 532 with Godden and Walker and either Kelly/Hamer/Sheaf or O’Hare/Hamer/Sheaf behind them depending on the situation.
We need to play both our strikers and we have no wingers to speak of and full backs who are better attacking than defending, I can’t see how we can do anything but wingbacks this season.
Unless you think we get a lot more corners and free kicks than other teams (were second bottom for corners per game at least, Wycombe are 16th) I don’t see how this is relevant. Every player at every club gets a chance to take corners and free kicks. Goals from set pieces count the same as open play.
We need to play both our strikers and we have no wingers to speak of and full backs who are better attacking than defending, I can’t see how we can do anything but wingbacks this season.
Unless you think we get a lot more corners and free kicks than other teams (were second bottom for corners per game at least, Wycombe are 16th) I don’t see how this is relevant. Every player at every club gets a chance to take corners and free kicks. Goals from set pieces count the same as open play.
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Well yes if you take away some of his assists then of course he won't have as many. Set pieces are important. This is a bit like Gendel deciding most of Biamou's goals don't count.
Hamer looks a great prospect but there are clearly areas to develop especially his tackling and temperament. If we can develop him jn the right way he will be a fantastic leader for us and command a big fee in my view.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Going back to the original question, Walker and Godden will definitely be tried together at some point.
There is a bit of a fear they may be a bit similar but they'll be given a chance together without a doubt. Hopefully they'll be able to work out one of the dropping to help O'hare while the other plays off the last defender during build up but both of them getting into the area for the through balls/crosses. Hamer's creativity could help them both score a decent amount of goals.
There is a bit of a fear they may be a bit similar but they'll be given a chance together without a doubt. Hopefully they'll be able to work out one of the dropping to help O'hare while the other plays off the last defender during build up but both of them getting into the area for the through balls/crosses. Hamer's creativity could help them both score a decent amount of goals.