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David O'Day

David O'Day

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wingy said:
No but this question was asked and sidestepped.
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Because maybe they don't have the answer yet. Could be many could be none if it mutated in the UK.

wingy said:
How are 1000 cases of this Variant spreading faster than the other (s) when daily totals are running around 20k.
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They aren't, it seems to media spin that it may be responsible for the spread in the south east and London. I'd say it's more likely the spread was because they didn't put them in the right tier and the virus spread amongst the population.
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Brighton Sky Blue

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David O'Day said:
Because maybe they don't have the answer yet. Could be many could be none if it mutated in the UK.



They aren't, it seems to media spin that it may be responsible for the spread in the south east and London. I'd say it's more likely the spread was because they didn't put them in the right tier and the virus spread amongst the population.
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Cases are ramping up massively in schools around there, if a year group is compromised it still goes to 100-200 households who can spread it rapidly. Bubbles were never going to work for that reason. Combine that with the rank deprivation in some of those boroughs and it's no surprise
 
fernandopartridge

fernandopartridge

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David O'Day said:
Because maybe they don't have the answer yet. Could be many could be none if it mutated in the UK.



They aren't, it seems to media spin that it may be responsible for the spread in the south east and London. I'd say it's more likely the spread was because they didn't put them in the right tier and the virus spread amongst the population.
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The govt have probably spun that story.
 
fernandopartridge

fernandopartridge

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Two pubs so far around here have announced that regardless of which tier we're going in, they won't be open again in 2020. One because its unviable and another who have said they don't want to be responsible for any rise in cases.
 
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wingy

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If only someone said lockdown in October to coordinate the school holidays , expanding them into the bargain.
 
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xcraigx

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wingy said:
If only someone said lockdown in October to coordinate the school holidays , expanding them into the bargain.
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Wouldn't that have been similar to what Wales did? Their figures are attrocious and might hint at what's to come for us in the next couple of weeks. I think the problem we have is our idea of lockdown is nothing of the sort. Poundland, Home Bargains, B&M - All essential and continuted to trade during lockdown for example. One of my local retail parks was heaving throughout the lockdown because half of the shops were still deemed essential enough to stay open. It felt like a never ending bank holiday weekend.
 
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CCFCSteve

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fernandopartridge said:
I reckon we're in for a double of treble peak second wave, with the next one being a big un.

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Those first wave numbers are a bit misleading though Fernando, the actual numbers were far higher but testing capacity wasn’t there

Hope you’re wrong but agree Jan/Feb are going to be difficult months

ps wingy - an earlier break coinciding with school hols probably would’ve suppressed case numbers a bit more but likely only delayed things for a bit (like Wales circuit break proved). In an ideal world I’d have been tempted to shift the school year a bit ie increase schools hols over winter but extend term over summer - appreciate easier said than done though !
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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CCFCSteve said:
Those first wave numbers are a bit misleading though Fernando, the actual numbers were far higher but testing capacity wasn’t there

Hope you’re wrong but agree Jan/Feb are going to be difficult months

ps wingy - an earlier break coinciding with school hols probably would’ve suppressed case numbers a bit more but likely only delayed things for a bit (like Wales circuit break proved). In an ideal world I’d have been tempted to shift the school year a bit ie increase schools hols over winter but extend term over summer - appreciate easier said than done though !
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My view was that if schools must be in, then extend the school day rather than change the school year. Get kids in for an extra hour a day and you don't need as many days in the calendar to begin with.
 
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wingy

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CCFCSteve said:
Those first wave numbers are a bit misleading though Fernando, the actual numbers were far higher but testing capacity wasn’t there

Hope you’re wrong but agree Jan/Feb are going to be difficult months

ps wingy - an earlier break coinciding with school hols probably would’ve suppressed case numbers a bit more but likely only delayed things for a bit (like Wales circuit break proved). In an ideal world I’d have been tempted to shift the school year a bit ie increase schools hols over winter but extend term over summer - appreciate easier said than done though !
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Yes Indeed ,get in front and plan it in.👍
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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wingy said:
Novel thinking !!
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Private schools have overall had the same contact time but been able to have longer half term breaks, longer Christmas holiday etc. I don't think a longer day would have had much union opposition, not least because it would also give more holiday time.
 
LastGarrison

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fernandopartridge said:
Two pubs so far around here have announced that regardless of which tier we're going in, they won't be open again in 2020. One because its unviable and another who have said they don't want to be responsible for any rise in cases.
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I hear the Devon is doing the same.

Feel for the Old Boys who go in for a Christmas drink.
 
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wingy

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CCFCSteve said:
Those first wave numbers are a bit misleading though Fernando, the actual numbers were far higher but testing capacity wasn’t there

Hope you’re wrong but agree Jan/Feb are going to be difficult months

ps wingy - an earlier break coinciding with school hols probably would’ve suppressed case numbers a bit more but likely only delayed things for a bit (like Wales circuit break proved). In an ideal world I’d have been tempted to shift the school year a bit ie increase schools hols over winter but extend term over summer - appreciate easier said than done though !
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Estimated 100k per day at peak
 
fernandopartridge

fernandopartridge

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CCFCSteve said:
Those first wave numbers are a bit misleading though Fernando, the actual numbers were far higher but testing capacity wasn’t there

Hope you’re wrong but agree Jan/Feb are going to be difficult months

ps wingy - an earlier break coinciding with school hols probably would’ve suppressed case numbers a bit more but likely only delayed things for a bit (like Wales circuit break proved). In an ideal world I’d have been tempted to shift the school year a bit ie increase schools hols over winter but extend term over summer - appreciate easier said than done though !
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I know that. It isn't really the point though, the numbers to look at to compare waves are numbers hospitalised really
 
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CCFCSteve

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fernandopartridge said:
I know that. It isn't really the point though, the numbers to look at to compare waves are numbers hospitalised really
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Sorry, agreed, the hospitalisations are a decent comparison/comparable.

ps rumours that Christmas rules could change. Not sure if I agree with that or not. I’d prefer to arm people with all the relevant info and allow them to make considered choices (as a lot will do anyway) but I guess some will just hear ‘I can mix with everyone for 5 days’
 
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clint van damme

clint van damme

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SkyBlueDom26 said:
Don't you like Kier then?
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No, I've given him a chance, not for me.
Don't get me wrong, I liked Corbyns policies but he had his chance and blew it so there's no one who really does it for me at the moment.

If I get the feeling that the NHS is safe with Starmer I'll probably still vote for him at the next GE as that's the most important issue for me personally.
 
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