Ian1779
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To be fair he’s abstained on that much he can probably dedicate a fair bit of time to the phone lines.
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Ian1779
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2 more and that’s Bingo
chiefdave
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Suspect they won't and the government will then act surprised when there's a surge in cases in the new year.
clint van damme
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No, I've given him a chance, not for me.
Don't get me wrong, I liked Corbyns policies but he had his chance and blew it so there's no one who really does it for me at the moment.
If I get the feeling that the NHS is safe with Starmer I'll probably still vote for him at the next GE as that's the most important issue for me personally.
shmmeee
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You’re right of course and he should have followed the excellent example of
his predecessor when dealing with racists calling into your phone in:
Ian1779
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You’re right of course and he should have followed the excellent example of
his predecessor when dealing with racists calling into your phone in:
Touché...
Isn’t Iran State TV where he first met Nick Ferrari?
chiefdave
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Can't understand his stance on school closures. That seems an easy win.
He's got three Labour councils telling schools to close, which they are saying is based off advice from Public Health England, he's got a Labour Mayor of London urging the government to close all London schools, closures seem to have the support of all the teaching unions. Add in the rather bizzare prospect of the DfE threating legal action against those councils closing schools. Yet he is saying schools should be kept open.
I don't understand the do nothing tactic. If it turns out the goverment got something right they will say he didn't support it, if they turn out to be wrong they will say he didn't oppose it.
shmmeee
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I think TBF both are nothing burgers. The woman wasn’t pushing the Great Replacement theory, just spouting something she’d heard. I don’t think that was the place to get into a discussion on population growth and dodgy projections.
SkyBlueDom26
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Christmas Bubbles are now under review
clint van damme
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You’re right of course and he should have followed the excellent example of
his predecessor when dealing with racists calling into your phone in:
I actually think too much has been made of the hone call to be honest but nowhere near enough has been made of some of the expulsions last week. If you're going call out antisemitism then at least be consistent.
shmmeee
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Not sure the science is clear on schools is it? I think they should be closed above a certain age
shmmeee
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Did you read the report of the meeting she chaired?
Starmer made it clear that the party accepts the EHRC report and that CLPs shouldn’t be bringing motions about Corbyn and she kept doing it anyway and got aggressive with other members. Spare me the crocodile tears.
So sick of seeing racism weaponised and yes that included the last five years. But the lefts childish reaction of “oh well we’ll spend five years doing it too” is just pathetic.
Skybluefaz
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Christmas Covid Relaxations Should Be Cancelled To Protect NHS, Doctors Urge
Rare joint editorial by British Medical Journal and Health Service Journal warn PM against "a major error that will cost many lives"
m.huffingtonpost.co.uk
clint van damme
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wrong kind of Jew eh? She's not the only one either but I'll leave it there. if you think she's a wrong un good for you.
Nick
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Leftie Rightie.
hill83
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Correct actually. I’m left footed and right handed.
clint van damme
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freak, and the vaccine won't work on you - FACT
Nick
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Same as me!
clint van damme
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same applies, vaccine won't work, you're fucked.
hill83
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skybluetony176
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This is pretty stupid
Should have closed all schools a week early anyway once they decided to allow mixing over Xmas. At least let the incubation period get out the way before you let people mix in households. You would have thought that would be the most obvious thing in world. Yet again no joined up thinking from easily the dumbest government in history.
Should have closed all schools a week early anyway once they decided to allow mixing over Xmas. At least let the incubation period get out the way before you let people mix in households. You would have thought that would be the most obvious thing in world. Yet again no joined up thinking from easily the dumbest government in history.
chiefdave
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If there's a case in a school this week doesn't that mean you then have to isolate over Christmas?
Seems a ridiculous thing to pick an argument over. Even if you're all for keeping schools open no matter what we're talking about four days, does that really make a huge difference to kids education given what's been happening the last 12 months?
Seems a ridiculous thing to pick an argument over. Even if you're all for keeping schools open no matter what we're talking about four days, does that really make a huge difference to kids education given what's been happening the last 12 months?
jimmyhillsfanclub
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...you pair of double wrong bastards....
... only the left-handed right-footed shall inherit the earth.....
Other countries have already backtracked on their Christmas rules. Yes, people will ignore it, but plenty won't, and if it shortens the amount of time we have to be locked down in January (and, y'know, saves a few lives) then I'm all for it.
Skybluefaz
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shmmeee
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Wrong type of Labour member mate. I’m guessing you aren’t in her CLP or at the meeting where members complained.
Who’s next? Jackie “the Jews did slavery” Walker?
Why can’t people just shut the fuck up about Jews and Jeremy for five seconds and focus on U.K. politics?
Do I still have to backtrack on my reply?
clint van damme
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There's plenty more she was just the first one that came to mind. All with a common characteristic.
Why didn't people shut up about Jews and concentrate on supporting the leadership a couple of years ago?
This is the contradictory position that centrists take, when they briefed against the leadership for years.
I'm surprised you can't see but fair enough if you're happy to back it then glad you've got the party you wanted but lets at least be honest about it, Ikea is purging the left despite saying he was going to reach out to them, he could at least man up and own what he's doing.
But he's too busy enabling the Tories. Let's see how it works out for him. It's not for me.
clint van damme
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ridiculous!!
Ian1779
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Schools will be a Cov-ID hotbed come January - it will be a fucking shitshow.
shmmeee
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People should’ve shut up about it. It was being amplified for factional reasons. Despite the fact it was an actual ongoing issue that needed resolving.
Like it or not, Starmer has made a decision on how to handle AS in Labour, one that has generally been welcomed by Jewish organisations. Wheeling out the Jewish equivalent to Blacks for Trump in a desperate attempt to harm the leader because he’s not Jeremy Corbyn is also a massively shit move. Both are true.
What’s the plan exactly? Sit and sulk until the next GE because “they did it first” and wait for the see saw to climb back up so the right can do the same? It’s so stupefyingly pointless and self destructive.
The left handled the party badly, the two things voters want Labour to distance themselves from are AS and Jeremy Corbyn. If you make that the hill you’re willing to die on, then don’t complain if you end up dead because the majority of Labour members, who aren’t following Rachael Swindon and Stats4Lefties on Twitter just want to win elections and try and reduce poverty. And if you aren’t helping them in that cause, they’ll help your opponents in the party.
The left needs to take its medicine and come back competent and hungry to win. It needs to raise its eyes up from the CLP meeting room to the wider electorate and not write everything off as an MSM plot when they can’t effectively communicate their ideas or compromise with the electorate. And they do need to do that because we’ve got some massive fucking problems building up and they’re the only people even thinking about solutions. And arguing over Fucking Labour Party procedure and the Israel/Palestine conflict because it’s safe and comfortable isn’t going to cut it.
clint van damme
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I always said I would back him if he sticks to his 10 pledges. He's not doing it.
It's pointless voting for some one just because they happen to be Labour if it's not going to effect actual change.
And as for the left taking it's medicine, you think people's money going into a party 5hat had people actively working against the leadership should just be forgotten about - not going to happen. That was Tory enabling writ large right there.
Nick
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They just need to stop fucking about, there will be businesses across the country not knowing whether they can open or not. Do they need to order stock or not?
Can people see each other, or not?
Just stop being posh, pretentious cunts who will all break the rules regardless and make a decision.
Can people see each other, or not?
Just stop being posh, pretentious cunts who will all break the rules regardless and make a decision.