Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (148 Viewers)
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hill83
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Teleport the vaccine to a car park?
Brighton Sky Blue
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Because surprisingly enough it takes time to manufacture a hundred million doses
Nick
Administrator
It's obviously not going to be in every single place as of today, why don't we give the manufacturers the empty nightingale hospitals as space to get it made and out quicker.
Needs to be a bit more urgency, surely?
Nick
Administrator
Just asking why things can't be sped up logistically.
Someone seems angry the gyms might be shut again soon. He won’t start feeling better until someone tells him everything else will be shut in solidarity and London has gone up to Tier 15.
I honestly have no idea, but you need to take a couple of hours off and stop jumping around looking for an argument on here. No-one seems to care quite as much as you right now.
Grendel
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There are all sorts of logistical challenges as well as the prioritisation of who receives it first
covcity4life
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Get pull up bar for house. My best lockdown investment
clint van damme
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it won't be done at test centres. It will be overseen by GPs.
Nick
Administrator
That's all I was asking.
It just seems that rather than being proactive there's pricks in charge sat about talking about it rather than doing it.
The looks like it has been mostly health workers (obviously) and those over 80 / care homes but people have been having to go into hospital to have it? Is the issue mainly transporting at the very cold temps?
covcity4life
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My tom tom not capable of that!
clint van damme
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are you being serious? If so get out for a walk and clear your head!
Nick
Administrator
Fucking good luck with that then.
They will be too busy talking to Doris about her sore arm all day rather than doing anything worthwhile.
clint van damme
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I didn't have you down as a Daily Mail reader. Bet you're all over the comments section as well!
Nick
Administrator
Obviously not that specifically but are we going into overdrive to get it out? What are the logistical issues that make it hard?
The cold temperatures, etc? BSB may know best.
Nick
Administrator
Not a Daily Mail reader, I've seen it first hand multiple times. I don't need the Daily Mail to point it out.
hill83
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Hopefully that will change eventually. Purely that it can and will be done in pharmacies eventually will speed things up.
Most importantly it needs to be done correctly. Not speed at the cost of safety.
Nick
Administrator
Hopefully the staff who do blood tests in Pharmacies and other things like that can be trained / qualified.
Then is the other issue getting storage out to each chemist to be able to store the vaccine safely etc.
hill83
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There you go, a logistical issue. All by yourself.
clint van damme
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to start to see an affect they're going to have to inject probably 15 million people twice!
It will take time, that's once it's manufactured and distributed. The good thing is once GPs and homes have the new one it can be stored in a bog standard fridge.
It's going to take a few months.
chiefdave
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Manufacturing has been increased but I suspect its more complicated than just needing more space. It will need specialist equipment working in optimal conditions and this isn't off the shelf kit.
Even if you have manufacturing capacity you're still reliant on the supply of materials. For example there was talk of a shortage of the vials needed to hold the vaccine. No point having masses of vaccine you can't package and distribute.
That being said we're supposed to be having mass vaccination centres setup, not sure why they can't be ready and waiting. Don't think its even been stated where they will be in Cov. Assume the Ricoh will be one.
Nick
Administrator
Yes so instead of the Government giving contracts to their mates and pissing billions away.
Get on the phone to people who can make fridges / devices suitable and get one ordered for every chemist in advance. It was known months ago about the temperature stuff. Get all hands on deck.
It all just seems bollocks, no preparation and everything done step by step rather than having things in place ready. Could have had storage solutions being implemented over the past couple of months.
hill83
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From what I’m hearing it is all in hand. Pharmacy’s will have storage capacity in place already.
From a not trusting the shambles of a government side I’m not as confident. The actual people on the ground know what they are doing though.
clint van damme
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why do you expect everyone who works in the NHS to be nose to the grindstone while so many of us spend hours of our working lives fucking about on here. You may not read the Mail but you've been indoctrinated with their bollocks somewhere along the line.
And old Doris's arm deserves as much attention as anyone else.
Nick
Administrator
That's what I was getting at, if there was a shortage of vials for example then why not setup a temporary vial production centre to get that into overdrive in the meantime so everything is there ready.
Pretty sure it would be cheaper than pretend PPE.
clint van damme
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probably one thing this government has got right throughout this shit show is pre-ordering a shit load of this vaccine and putting the vaccine program in the hands of the health care professionals.
Obviously, it would be naïve to thnk things can't go tits up but I'm confident the end is in sight.
Nick
Administrator
I don't need the Daily Mail to form an impression about GPs. I am just using what I have seen first hand (or not seen in some cases).
Maybe if they learnt to deal with the old doris' rather than than wasting so much time dealing with them then things like mental health might get dealt with a bit better.