Londonccfcfan
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Really, surprised about that which stats?
Hamer vs Walsh (8 Viewers)
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Really, surprised about that which stats?
edgy
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Have you got Contract Tourettes?
Frostie
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Frostie
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Quite a lot...
As I said, different strengths & weaknesses as completely different types of player.
Bear in mind Sheaf was in a weaker team too.
cov donkey kick
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Hamer for me, because he's playing great. However why isn't Walsh playing for Bristol as the only way they know he's good enough is play him. For Walsh losing the manager Johnson seems to have pushed him back in the pecking order. A real strange one and who knows we still may sign him at some point.
Liquid Gold
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shmmeee
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Sheaf was near the top for his position in L1 last season.
Have a look here, Walsh not even mentioned
Data Analysis: Finding the best central midfielders in League One
More often than not, successful teams at any level have a talented midfield player capable of making major contributions consistently. […]
totalfootballanalysis.com
shmmeee
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Does kind of highlight that “Sheaf or Walsh” is the wrong question as opposed to “Hamer or Walsh” and also “Sheaf or Kelly”
shmmeee
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You got a source? Best I can find is this that says 3-6 depending on the stat:Man in the middle - How Bristol City can get the best out of Liam Walsh
stupot07
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if Walsh and Sheaf are totally different players then so are Walsh and Hamer so we may as well close thread.Totally different players.
How about
Walsh vs Godden or
Walsh vs Marosi?
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Frostie
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Happy_Martian
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Sheaf was near the top for his position in L1 last season.
Have a look here, Walsh not even mentioned
Data Analysis: Finding the best central midfielders in League One
More often than not, successful teams at any level have a talented midfield player capable of making major contributions consistently. […]
The text of the second paragraph explains why.... " look at the midfielders competing in League 1 for 2020/21 campaign ". Walshy isn't in League 1 this season.
And this....
" When considering the clubs involved, it is strictly the clubs who are in League 1 for 2020/21 – 19/20 clubs who were promoted or relegated from the division are excluded, but close who came down from the Championship, and up from League 2, are included. "
And I have no idea why Sheaf was included in the analysis as this goes against their previous statements.
stupot07
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Frostie
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No, they mean the club i.e. Doncaster are still in League 1 rather than the player.
shmmeee
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Missed that. Cheers
Happy_Martian
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Still doesn't get away from the fact they are analyzing Sheaf playing in League 1 for 20/21 season (his name appears on several of their charts) when he's not even at Doncaster any more, a point they did make towards the start.
Frostie
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It is a bit of a weird one but the stats for all are from 19/20. It's so that they have a full season's worth of data - the bigger the dataset the better of course.
From our perspective though it does show how good Sheaf was last season, far too good for League 1 & why we made him a top target.
NortonSkyBlue
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Doubting no but let’s be honest Millwall have been very poor. Where has Hamer been in the last month? Hiding in plain sight
cc84cov
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They haven’t played for 2 weeks should be fresh their also stil above us in the league also hence havinf 2 games in hand
is hamer joint top scorer now too ?
Danceswithhorses
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Hamer is already starting to pick up a few headlines here and there, as our best player.
Surely MR and his assistant will be thinking this as well.
Got to try and keep him super happy at Cov, so that when the inevitable time comes, we can maximise the transfer fee.
Surely MR and his assistant will be thinking this as well.
Got to try and keep him super happy at Cov, so that when the inevitable time comes, we can maximise the transfer fee.
SeaSeeEffCee
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covcity4life
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I warned against making early predictions but now it's Jan and there is no doubt hamer is the better player
But like i always say I still want Walsh here too! Tiki taka yo the prem!
But like i always say I still want Walsh here too! Tiki taka yo the prem!
fernandopartridge
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Seemed to have a bit of understanding with Sheaf as well, they were both closer together and interplay between them was lovely.
covcity4life
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For me I've said it few months back I know Kelly adds steel and heart but passing wise sheaf and hamer is noticbly better
Liquid Gold
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If you could have just put a bit of Mourinho as well as Wenger in Sheaf’s development he’s boss it
SlowerThanPlatt
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Buendia and Harvey Elliott stand out a mile there
mark82
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Buendia is miles above this level.
Frostie
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Totally, can't believe Norwich kept him in the summer. Wouldn't be surprised if they keep him until next summer now too as can't see anyone paying the £40m they're asking for in January so he'll surely fire them to promotion. Fantastic player.
Harvey Elliott still only 17
Sky Blue Harry H
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If Hamer was playing for Norwich and Buendia for us, Hamer's stats would be above Buendia's. Just saying.
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He’d struggle to reach them stats sitting on the bench