Points to survive (8 Viewers)

[Ccfcisparks]

I know we haven't won this game yet but I've been doing some reading.

The lowest amount of points to survive the Championship in the last 10 years is 41. The highest amount is 55.

We are currently 4 wins from having a good chance of staying up. 8 will see us stay up for certain.

Win the next 2 and dare I say we will have done it.

 

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[Barnsley]

46 might be enough this season.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

46 might be enough this season.

46 would require 5 wins and 2 draws. Pretty reasonable.

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

Hopefully Dabo isn’t out for long, that could be significant.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Still ahead of target to reach 50, got another 6 in the current block with 1 more to play

 

[Legia Sky Blue]

I know we haven't won this game yet but I've been doing some reading.

The lowest amount of points to survive the Championship in the last 10 years is 41. The highest amount is 55.

We are currently 4 wins from having a good chance of staying up. 8 will see us stay up for certain.

Win the next 2 and dare I say we will have done it.

That 55 season was out of the ordinary - Peterborough were really unlucky to go down with 54 points. In only one other season has over 50 points been required to stay up in the last 10 years, and the majority of the time averaging a point a game (46 points) would see you safe. Looking at the table right now I think 50 points will definitely be safe, which means us averaging a point a game for the rest of the season, which I would hope we can achieve.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

That 55 season was out of the ordinary - Peterborough were really unlucky to go down with 54 points. In only one other season has over 50 points been required to stay up in the last 10 years, and the majority of the time averaging a point a game (46 points) would see you safe. Looking at the table right now I think 50 points will definitely be safe, which means us averaging a point a game for the rest of the season, which I would hope we can achieve.

On course for 53 at the moment. Forest/Derby/Rotherham all on a point a game

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Beat Blues next game and we have a 6 point gap on them with a game in hand. Let’s start putting some distance between us and others.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Beat Blues next game and we have a 6 point gap on them with a game in hand. Let’s start putting some distance between us and others.

Level on games played now.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Level on games played now.

Oh of course. Still, 6 points ahead of them would be good going.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Win the next two and it’s a huge cushion and then we can afford some losses against teams at the top. Two massively important games then a few where any points are just a bonus.

 

[lord_garrincha]

Win the next two and it’s a huge cushion and then we can afford some losses against teams at the top. Two massively important games then a few where any points are just a bonus.

It's not impossible. I have been impressed that they have won a good proportion of the 'winnable' games.

Other than Reading (H), there have been no unexpected wins... If we do a couple of them, then it looks good.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Oh of course. Still, 6 points ahead of them would be good going.

Just desperately need a few players back from injury, and will need that Scottish lad pronto with Da Costa probably more needed at right back now.

 

[cc84cov]

Just desperately need a few players back from injury, and will need that Scottish lad pronto with Da Costa probably more needed at right back now.

Can’t see him in a flat 4 his positional awareness has been a bit iratic...I think we go back to a 5 Saturday with fadz coming back in,drop sheaf put Allen alongside O’Hare behind GYO

 

[Londonccfcfan]

It's not impossible. I have been impressed that they have won a good proportion of the 'winnable' games.

Other than Reading (H), there have been no unexpected wins... If we do a couple of them, then it looks good.

If we look closely at the table at the moment.

12th Barnsley to Wycombe at bottom.

Not done the maths but we would probably finish top of the bottom half in terms of results and points picked up.

Our results vs top 11 is pretty dire. I think 5 points.

Vs bottom 13....24 points in 13/14 games. Pretty phenomenal.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

If we look closely at the table at the moment.

12th Barnsley to Wycombe at bottom.

Not done the maths but we would probably finish top of the bottom half in terms of results and points picked up.

Our results vs top 11 is pretty dire. I think 5 points.

Vs bottom 13....24 points in 13/14 games. Pretty phenomenal.

As Rotherham showed tonight, those teams in the top 10 aren't unbeatable. Just a bit more belief needed against those sides

 

[Hobo]

The target shouldn't be the minimum. But 50 is a realistic one and should be enough this year.

The danger with this is fans start prescribing set points per game - and melt down when points are dropped.

There are always rogue results in all leagues - Sheff Utd winning away at Man Utd last night. Form goes out of the window towards end of season.

We are in an ok position at the moment and need to just keep chipping away.

 

[Joy Division]

Is staying in this league a bigger achievement than winning the league last season?

 

[Londonccfcfan]

Is staying in this league a bigger achievement than winning the league last season?

No for me.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Is staying in this league a bigger achievement than winning the league last season?

Yea

 

[Londonccfcfan]

Yea

Huh....90% of fans at start of season expected us to stay up at the least.

Less than 10% thought we we would win league 1. I was one of the 5-10% and won almost a grand out of it.

 

[Hobo]

Is staying in this league a bigger achievement than winning the league last season?

Not necessarily, but staying in this league is important financially, for status and for a better level of football (even if sometimes that is provided by the opposition).

It is a shame some fans wont let themselves to just enjoy the season. Its the roller coaster of success v disapointment that actually makes sport great.

 

[tisza]

Is staying in this league a bigger achievement than winning the league last season?

Not as enjoyable but probably a bigger achievement just down to budgets particularly when it comes to squad depth. We've seen all sorts of players we couldn't possibly afford on other teams' benches when we've played tehm.

 

[NortonSkyBlue]

Is staying in this league a bigger achievement than winning the league last season?

Even If we finish just outside the bottom three we are 4 places advanced on 19-20 and still in the championship so yes it’s a bigger achievement. It may not be rewarded with a trophy but it gives you a chance to continue the progress the following season and build upon.
When you consider the budgets of the teams in this division we are punching well above our weight and some of our supporters should really check in with reality because you know that it is only a bad result away from the usual suspects frothing at the mouth.

 

[AOM]

Not as enjoyable but probably a bigger achievement just down to budgets particularly when it comes to squad depth. We've seen all sorts of players we couldn't possibly afford on other teams' benches when we've played tehm.

Agree with this.
Also think we haven't felt the full effect of being back in the Championship as we're all missing out on the big crowds at the big teams we hadn't been experiencing in the lower leagues

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Huh....90% of fans at start of season expected us to stay up at the least.

Less than 10% thought we we would win league 1. I was one of the 5-10% and won almost a grand out of it.

Most fans have no idea of the challenge of this division with the salary budget we have. Think the pandemic overall is helpful to us as those with huge holes in income will be thinking what are we going to do to pay the large contracts we have?

I’m pretty certain that MR would feel keeping us up would be a bigger achievement than winning league 1 but it’s maybe a good question for Clive or Martin to ask

 

[AFCCOVENTRY]

Is staying in this league a bigger achievement than winning the league last season?

Of course. It’s a higher league and our first season back for a very long time. Stay up and we can build for next season and improve.

 

[Malaka]

Still ahead of target to reach 50, got another 6 in the current block with 1 more to play

I agree, 50 will keep us safe and have a platform to build on for next season

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Not as enjoyable but probably a bigger achievement just down to budgets particularly when it comes to squad depth. We've seen all sorts of players we couldn't possibly afford on other teams' benches when we've played tehm.

Wednesday’s team last night much more expensively assembled but plain dogshit despite us missing over half a team!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I agree, 50 will keep us safe and have a platform to build on for next season

Rotherham through to Forest are all on a point a game, 50 will be enough I think and we do at least have Millwall at home on the final day.

 

[Londonccfcfan]

Most fans have no idea of the challenge of this division with the salary budget we have. Think the pandemic overall is helpful to us as those with huge holes in income will be thinking what are we going to do to pay the large contracts we have?

I’m pretty certain that MR would feel keeping us up would be a bigger achievement than winning league 1 but it’s maybe a good question for Clive or Martin to ask

I agree the pandemic has helped.

But like i said vast majority fans expected us to stay up including bookies.

The vast majority didnt think we would win league 1.

Not disagreeing but the salary budget argument still applied in league 1, we over achieved big time to win it. Imho.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I agree the pandemic has helped.

But like i said vast majority fans expected us to stay up including bookies.

The vast majority didnt think we would win league 1.

Not disagreeing but the salary budget argument still applied in league 1, we over achieved big time to win it. Imho.

I agree champions last year was a huge achievement

 

[Londonccfcfan]

I agree champions last year was a huge achievement

Staying up this season is meeting realistic expectations at any point in the season. Being hampered by injuries could be factored in, but its not an overachievement if we stay up.

 

[lifeskyblue]

Difficult to judge. I think 52 should see us safe. Teams may yet get points deductions for irregularities. All we can do is amass as many points as possible so that on final day we are not looking over our shoulders and can relax a little


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[Londonccfcfan]

Difficult to judge. I think 52 should see us safe. Teams may yet get points deductions for irregularities. All we can do is amass as many points as possible so that on final day we are not looking over our shoulders and can relax a little


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62 wont be far off 7th place.