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Player of the year so far and it’s not close
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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Pretty sure Hamer might have something to say about that
There’s one or two in contention for that Hamer obviously, but McFadzeen considering he was more or less written off at the start of the season has been rock at the back. but I suspect it will be between O’Hare or Hamer
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Gibbo
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To succeed at this level, by which I mean be mid table or above, you need a minimum of three players who would usually get into the starting line up of a top team. Otherwise your squad is made up of average or below average players, This is where O'Hare comes in
We have three definites in that category - O'Hare, Dabo and Hamer. Arguably Ostigaard and James also possibly fit the bill. On the face of it we should be higher. BUT we have been hit by injuries to the good middling players - Godden, Walkerin particular - and the subs - Max and Baka - are definetely below average for the division.
The difficult thing for Robins to achieve in the summer is how to get the best mix of retained talent, and new players that have to be paid for by selling some of the talent ideally you would like to retain.
O'Hare's stats will have been noticed
We have three definites in that category - O'Hare, Dabo and Hamer. Arguably Ostigaard and James also possibly fit the bill. On the face of it we should be higher. BUT we have been hit by injuries to the good middling players - Godden, Walkerin particular - and the subs - Max and Baka - are definetely below average for the division.
The difficult thing for Robins to achieve in the summer is how to get the best mix of retained talent, and new players that have to be paid for by selling some of the talent ideally you would like to retain.
O'Hare's stats will have been noticed
cc84cov
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Hamer is ahead of him...before last weeks games people were pissed of with Ohare’s lack of end product week 4 days later he’s player of the year and it’s not even close
Grendel
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Hamer is ahead of him...before last weeks games people were pissed of with Ohare’s lack of end product week 4 days later he’s player of the year and it’s not even close
No not everyone- o hare was better than Hamer then - he’s intimately a better player in terms of stature for the premier league
cc84cov
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clint van damme
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Hamer is ahead of him...before last weeks games people were pissed of with Ohare’s lack of end product week 4 days later he’s player of the year and it’s not even close
he's been outstanding all season.
Considering he came of a free and has not played at this level before (he may have made the odd appearance for Villa), he's been superb.
Him for nothing and Hamer for 1. 4 million is outstanding business.
Grendel
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Not in my opinion
cc84cov
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Top scorer from midfield edges it from me currently but plenty of time left if O’Hare carries in like the last 2 games tho,could be a different story come end of season
cov donkey kick
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Getting the 2 players for that money is off the pitch great business and on the pitch it could keep us up.
stay_up_skyblues
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Our best player for me. I think he also fits a prem side more than Hamer (who has also been excellent and is a key player for us). I think COH’s discipline, fitness/work rate and technique suits a top English division team more so than Hamer’s blood and thunder, sometime rash, box to box style. If we don’t consolidate this season and push on next we will lose both.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Staying up not only is worth millions in the TV revenue it's probably also worth as much in any fees paid for either of those two
stay_up_skyblues
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Absolutely. Not a fat lot the club can do if/when a bigger club come in and they want to leave though.
Brighton Sky Blue
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No, but important to have a fee in mind that we won't budge from to allow us to replace and also improve in other areas
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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More impressively from Defensive Midfield
on o’hare - he is massively important. My friend’s dad believes if O’Hare plays well - we play well.
Sky Blue Pete
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Hope so
cc84cov
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Hamer will play premier league football before O’Hare,
Robins latest comments on Hamer in the CET also seem to look that way.
cov donkey kick
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It's between the 2 of them player of the year think we are lucky to have both of them, the midfield we are blessed with having also as back up of James, Kelly and Sheaf who's been good in patches and could in the end one of the best.
stevefloyd
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His Xa is now 1.61 but as you know stats mean jack really Max's Xa is
Infogol Max 1.56
Infogol Bakas 0.10
Infogol Goddens 0.35
Infogol Walkers Xa 0.46
Infogol Gus 2.61
Just as an aside Kevin De Bruynes Xa is 7.30
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But O'Hare battles his heart out for the cause and as he gets older he will hopefully get more nous about his play and as a few on here have said he is definitely one of our best players, I for one cannot fault his effort although I wish he would stop going down quite so easily at times, we all wish his end product was better but I am sure it will come
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Londonccfcfan
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Agree 100%.
This is exactly one of the reasons we miss not being at the game watching live.
Get to see the whole picture, pitch formation etc etc the positional sense of players off the ball, how players read anticipate the game , the running off the ball, closing down. Get to see the real captains organisers.
Which you can't see on ifollow!
Which is my thinking that Robins sees something about Shipley that he's doing off the ball which we don't see on camera.
Malaka
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This aged well
Greggs
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Yep, the OP is a clueless moron. Surely he must only post like this to see what reaction he gets? Cheers x
shmmeee
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His Xa is now 1.61 but as you know stats mean jack really Max's Xa is
Infogol Max 1.56
Infogol Bakas 0.10
Infogol Goddens 0.35
Infogol Walkers Xa 0.46
Infogol Gus 2.61
Just as an aside Kevin De Bruynes Xa is 7.30
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But O'Hare battles his heart out for the cause and as he gets older he will hopefully get more nous about his play and as a few on here have said he is definitely one of our best players, I for one cannot fault his effort although I wish he would stop going down quite so easily at times, we all wish his end product was better but I am sure it will come
I think you’ve got the wrong end of the stick. The post I was replying to said the reason O’Hare didn’t have more assists is because others are missing easy chances he’s laying on. That would be reflected in the xA stats is it were true. In the same way O’Hares xG is about 5/6, which shows he’s missing easy chances, which we know anecdotally to be true.
Others xA couldn’t be more irrelevant, I know we don’t create chances as a team, we are second bottom in the division for xG. But a major part of that is our link between midfield and attack has, until recently, not been creating the chances he should.
fernandopartridge
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Hamer is raw in some respects as well, as I've said before he is a bit frenetic and then makes poor decisions, with sloppy final delivery. That said, when he gets a chance to get a shot on goal he's never too far away and strikes the ball beautifully.
PUSB-We_are_going_up
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Hopefully Ohare keeps up his form
DannyThomas_1981
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The madness of SBT.
2 weeks ago: Hamer is a world beater. O'Hare doesn't create anything.
Today: O'Hare player of the season and bound for the Prem. Hamer is over-rated in comparison.
Can't wait to see what next week brings in the court of ever changing SBT opinion....
2 weeks ago: Hamer is a world beater. O'Hare doesn't create anything.
Today: O'Hare player of the season and bound for the Prem. Hamer is over-rated in comparison.
Can't wait to see what next week brings in the court of ever changing SBT opinion....
PUSB-We_are_going_up
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Next week it will be Max Biamou should be our No1 striker and Godden should be our 4th choice, then Grendel walks in...The madness of SBT.
2 weeks ago: Hamer is a world beater. O'Hare doesn't create anything.
Today: O'Hare player of the season and bound for the Prem. Hamer is over-rated in comparison.
Can't wait to see what next week brings in the court of ever changing SBT opinion....
rhino1002
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The madness of SBT indeedThe madness of SBT.
2 weeks ago: Hamer is a world beater. O'Hare doesn't create anything.
Today: O'Hare player of the season and bound for the Prem. Hamer is over-rated in comparison.
Can't wait to see what next week brings in the court of ever changing SBT opinion....
This site lurches from one over reaction to another
i made the point the other night about the over reaction to our Reading result while Bournemouth were getting pasted by Reading
its something we have to put up with
its even worse on Facebook
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Londonccfcfan
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He's gonna score tonight!!
Johhny Blue
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Me too