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Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (6 Viewers)
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Sky Blue Pete
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Sobering 50% of patients in itu under 60
Thats not what it reflects though Pete. There are still large numbers of hospital admissions on a daily basis (2k-3k per day in England and during that period probably around 35k new admissions in total). The net number is finally starting to reduce though. Whilst the numbers dying have been/are horrific, this is hopefully showing that pressure on the NHS is finally starting to reduce and the death numbers should start to follow. Whist there’s still a long way to go, this is hopefully a reflection that the vaccination programme is starting to have an affect and there is some hope
Scary. However whilst we all want the total number of patients in ITU/ICU to reduce, we actually (bizarrely) want that percentage to increase over the short term as it should indicate that the vaccine is working in older age groups
clint van damme
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I read somewhere and think I posted link in here that some off the pressure on icu is patients taking up beds who 6 months ago would have died so perversely the high occupancy rate does have a silver lining.
Evo1883
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Hes absolutely correct, but fuck me I can't stand that twat.. He's vile
clint van damme
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He's a great writer. Love his books.
Skybluefaz
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Some talk on Marr of hospitality not reopening in the summer. Sorry if this depresses the fuck out of you but if I'm going down I'm dragging you with me.
Brighton Sky Blue
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If we get the 9 groups done before then they can piss off with that.
Evo1883
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He is... He also played in a band called stairway 13 (in reference to the ibrox disaster) , refers to rangers fans as sticky buns (clearly huns) and suggested morelos should be chopped up into pieces..
He's a sectarian bigot
He's correct in that tweet though
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Skybluefaz
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Can't find the link but Marr asked Truss about the rumours bars, restaurants and theaters will remain shut during the summer and she basically said it's too early to speculate. I really think if there was a plan people would be more compliant.
Brighton Sky Blue
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My view has been just decide on a vaccination target alongside a measure of NHS burden as a green light for increased lifting of restrictions. It’s feeling that there’s no end in sight that makes it hard to keep plugging away.
Thanks Faz, I was trying to lift the spirits on here !!! I was discussing this with my mate last night though. There’s loads of dates being thrown around (May/June) but none of us know what the numbers will look like in three weeks let alone three or four months. Surely if case numbers reduce and stay significantly lower and pressure is reduced on NHS (by higher risks all being vaccinated) Id like to think there is no reason why it can’t be sooner....assuming no horrible new variants
Well, that’s what I keep telling myself anyway
.Exactly. I’m hoping they’re just caught in a ‘not wanting to over promise’ mindset after what happened at Christmas
Brighton Sky Blue
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You wouldn’t be promising timelines though, just measurable targets that are related to progress against the virus.
clint van damme
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As much as I think she's useless I agree with her on this
If they set arbitrary dates then people will expect hospitality to reopen even if it starts a 3rd wave.
I really hope there is some sort of reopening by summer because I'm getting fucking sick of this now but I don't want another short reopening followed by another 4 month lock down,.That would be intolerable.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Concerns me seeing Starmer push for teacher vaccination over half term. That doesn’t actually do anything about schools being vectors for transmission to the wider community with most parents not being vaccinated yet. It also includes the baffling idea that a vaccinated teacher would still need to isolate?
Skybluefaz
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Yeah I'm not so much looking for a date, but if there are some metrics we are looking at like X amount of hospital admissions + Y amount of vulnerable people vaccinated before we can open up then personally I'd take that as a positive thing. At the moment, endless suck it and see is just exhausting. I'm just moaning really.
Ian1779
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He’s a fuckwit. Send in teachers with the immunity of the first vaccination and the kids with none... and then 6 weeks later we have to shut down all over again and loads more people have died and we’ve lost all the momentum of the last 5 weeks.
Brighton Sky Blue
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In Australia, Perth has locked it all down for a week after just one confirmed case. The reasoning being that nailing down the transmission severely but swiftly saves pain down the road. Here the moment we don’t have a four figure death toll people want to open it all up.
Ian1779
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It’s obviously been said that half of all totals deaths have been since November... how many of them do you reckon were fuelled by the way we just flung schools back open in September. How can he not see that we need get this last bit right as we roll out vaccinations?
Brighton Sky Blue
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We all saw the graphs that showed the most new cases were happening in students and school age people, then they showed surges in older people, which in due time reflected in hospitalisations and deaths. We fucking said this would happen but Boris wanted to stick it to the unions and thought putting teachers in boxes would be enough. It wasn’t and it won’t be this time either.
Sick Boy
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Get tae fuck, ya wee radge
Sky Blue Pete
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A year after Johnson’s swaggering Greenwich speech, 100,000 dead
The government says nobody could have done more but it’s clear poor leadership on Covid has brought the UK to this pass
fernandopartridge
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I like him
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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@Sick Boy - what is your view on this?
www.bloomberg.com
99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says
More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country’s national health authority.
www.bloomberg.com
Sky Blue Pete
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Sobering and makes football crowds less likely for the whole of 2021
Would be terribly sad
www.google.co.uk
Friend works in university of warwick on the modelling
Would be terribly sad
Social distancing ‘may be in force until 2022’, Sage study suggests
Relaxation of social-distancing measures will cause another surge in deaths unless vaccination is a success, study warns
Friend works in university of warwick on the modelling
Sky Blue Pete
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First thing is it’s very old and only the first 2500 deaths@Sick Boy - what is your view on this?
99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says
More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country’s national health authority.
Sick Boy
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It’s an article from last March?@Sick Boy - what is your view on this?
99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says
More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country’s national health authority.
I think since then it’s been likely shown to not be the case. I know a girls dad who died recently who was 55 - he was overweight and a heavy smoker, possibly obesity is classed as an illness.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Yeah sorry, posted with absolutely no context.
I meant to ask if there had been a follow up report, and if you knew anything about it.
clint van damme
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Sobering and makes football crowds less likely for the whole of 2021
Would be terribly sad
Social distancing ‘may be in force until 2022’, Sage study suggests
Relaxation of social-distancing measures will cause another surge in deaths unless vaccination is a success, study warns
Friend works in university of warwick on the modelling
I was thinking today I wonder when away fans will be let back in, I can see some sort of return for home support next season but it wouldn't surprise me if away support is the season after next.
clint van damme
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another Scottish writer I would recommend if you haven't already read him is John Niven.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Sobering and makes football crowds less likely for the whole of 2021
Would be terribly sad
Social distancing ‘may be in force until 2022’, Sage study suggests
Relaxation of social-distancing measures will cause another surge in deaths unless vaccination is a success, study warns
Friend works in university of warwick on the modelling
Reading that is just crushing to be honest
Skybluefaz
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Depressing, but good to know the score.Sobering and makes football crowds less likely for the whole of 2021
Would be terribly sad
Social distancing ‘may be in force until 2022’, Sage study suggests
Relaxation of social-distancing measures will cause another surge in deaths unless vaccination is a success, study warns
Friend works in university of warwick on the modelling