Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (268 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

What are the side effects though? It seems they encourage you here to register if you get a sore arm after somebody jabs a needle into it. I wouldn't call that a particularly worrying side effect myself!

Side effects of mild symptoms happen with the flu vaccine as well and are evidence of the immune system responding

 

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[Macca]

Surely they sussed him when he turned up?

apparently not. I’ve googled it and she isn’t the first

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

apparently not. I’ve googled it and she isn’t the first

Incredibly selfish

 

[shmmeee]

The thing is that 6 weeks was already pushing it to the maximum gap Pfizer’s data was reliable up to, and we’ve doubled it. An educated punt is still a punt and seeing as the first recipients were the most vulnerable of all, it’s higher risk than I would like.

Again we only switched to this idea once the numbers started turning for the worse. I defended the decision on the basis of ‘protect more a bit than fewer fully’ but only because the situation demanded it

Yeah it’s a punt, but equally choosing to let people die if you’ve got a good idea this’ll work is equally a punt.

Honestly think it’s the smartest thing they’ve done all pandemic and they’ll be justified. But as I said at the start, we’re all just guessing both ways until the data is in.

Also, again, if it doesn’t work and we’ve injected a bunch of people with only 60% instead of 95% protection, that still saves more lives in the short term and buys us time for other developments.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yeah it’s a punt, but equally choosing to let people die if you’ve got a good idea this’ll work is equally a punt.

Honestly think it’s the smartest thing they’ve done all pandemic and they’ll be justified. But as I said at the start, we’re all just guessing both ways until the data is in.

Also, again, if it doesn’t work and we’ve injected a bunch of people with only 60% instead of 95% protection, that still saves more lives in the short term and buys us time for other developments.

Right, I’m not disagreeing with the decision as I supported it when it was made. My only point is we were forced into this because we’d handled the outbreak so poorly

 

[shmmeee]

What are the side effects though? It seems they encourage you here to register if you get a sore arm after somebody jabs a needle into it. I wouldn't call that a particularly worrying side effect myself!

Worst I’ve heard are mild flu like symptoms and a sore arm.

 

[shmmeee]

Right, I’m not disagreeing with the decision as I supported it when it was made. My only point is we were forced into this because we’d handled the outbreak so poorly

Yeah I can agree there. If we were in NZ I’d be all for taking out time. But we are where we are really.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Israel setting a target of 90% of over 50s with at least a first jab, and 20% double jabbed before wider reopening

 

[Sick Boy]

Worst I’ve heard are mild flu like symptoms and a sore arm.

My girlfriend had a sore and swollen arm after the second jab and a mild temperature. Her grandmother has had both doses and no symptoms whatsoever

 

[fernandopartridge]

They believe pretty much that herd immunity on the original strain has been achieved in most states

Isn't that the driver for new strains though

 

[fernandopartridge]

COVID-19: Vaccine doses shouldn't be more than six weeks apart, scientist behind Pfizer-BioNTech jab says

Professor Ugur Sahin says the UK should provide evidence to back up its vaccination strategy.

news.sky.com

He's just stating the obvious though really and the UK govt tbf has in its assessment of risk and benefit that a 3 month gap makes sense. If one dose is stopping serious illness then the UK govt will be vindicated. Appreciate that he wants to see evidence if efficacy beyond 3 weeks, I'm pretty surprised Pfizer hasn't tested that itself

I'm absolutely no fan of the Tory govt and think they've handled this horrendously, but I do trust the government scientific advisors, especially given the UK's relative strength in this sector.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Some conspiracy bollocks that world leaders and Bill Gates created the pandemic to completely change the economy and people's behaviour so they are in permanent control.

It's almost as if the economy isn't already effectively controlled by massive corporations and high finance

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Fresh stupidity emerging from Scotland with proposals for distancing of all pupils, not just of putting the teacher in a box as the previous norm. This isn’t close to a decent education and is not worth rushing back for. Wait till the summer term for Christ’s sake

NRS Web Continuity Service

www.gov.scot

 

[Grendel]

Fresh stupidity emerging from Scotland with proposals for distancing of all pupils, not just of putting the teacher in a box as the previous norm. This isn’t close to a decent education and is not worth rushing back for. Wait till the summer term for Christ’s sake

NRS Web Continuity Service

www.gov.scot

I’m sure a press conference is looming

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I’m sure a press conference is looming

To be timed half an hour before Johnson on the 22nd

 

[hill83]

Her kids are vaccinated fully so she's not an anti-vaxxer, just worried about unknown side effects with it being developed quickly. I've tried telling her it's safe but she's still worried and I don't want to berate her and put her off it just to piss me off.

Don’t make me post the link I’ve already posted twice again. Print the fucker off and post it to her.

 

[hill83]

What are the side effects though? It seems they encourage you here to register if you get a sore arm after somebody jabs a needle into it. I wouldn't call that a particularly worrying side effect myself!

It’s got a robot in it that’s delayed for a year and then grows in your arse and explodes out on your birthday.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It’s got a robot in it that’s delayed for a year and then grows in your arse and explodes out on your birthday.

I thought that was Matt Hancock

 

[clint van damme]

It’s got a robot in it that’s delayed for a year and then grows in your arse and explodes out on your birthday.

Rectal Mickey?

 

[Liquid Gold]

Don’t make me post the link I’ve already posted twice again. Print the fucker off and post it to her.

Sorry mum

 

[hill83]

Sorry mum

Not a problem. Have you tidied your room?

 

[chiefdave]

Fresh stupidity emerging from Scotland with proposals for distancing of all pupils, not just of putting the teacher in a box as the previous norm. This isn’t close to a decent education and is not worth rushing back for. Wait till the summer term for Christ’s sake

They were talking about schools on the radio today, 7:25 into this if you're interested.

Stephen Nolan - 12/02/2021 - BBC Sounds

The day's main news stories, topical debate and interviews.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

They were talking about schools on the radio today, 7:25 into this if you're interested.

Stephen Nolan - 12/02/2021 - BBC Sounds

The day's main news stories, topical debate and interviews.

www.bbc.co.uk

As I keep saying, the education being received in schools is heavily compromised because the teacher is so restricted in what they are able to do. Add in that kids spread it around within year groups like nobody's business and the idea has minimal educational benefit and will send transmission right back up.

If you further restrict what the children can do even if they are in bubbles then the benefit is even lower.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Not a problem. Have you tidied your room?

SO UN-FAIR

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Just found out that a now ex friend (fortunately not a close one) has jumped the vaccine queue using some linked leak. What an absolute c**t. A healthy 36 year old

Here hoping the selfish c**t gets a hefty dose of long covid before his immunity kicks in......

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Looks like they're going to ruin the progress made thus far and get the schools back when the idiots wanted

 

[SBAndy]

Turns out I’ve been living with a pseudo Covid denier. Apparently not been as many deaths as is being made out. When I explained about the excess deaths and how that works, I was told “well that’s my opinion and I’m entitled to it”.

My opinion is now that grass is orange.

 

[skybluetony176]

As I keep saying, the education being received in schools is heavily compromised because the teacher is so restricted in what they are able to do. Add in that kids spread it around within year groups like nobody's business and the idea has minimal educational benefit and will send transmission right back up.

If you further restrict what the children can do even if they are in bubbles then the benefit is even lower.

My kids are saying that home learning is no different to school at the moment. Aside from seeing their friends on a daily basis.

Where would you stand on refusing to send your kids and insisting that they continue to learn remotely until the adults in the house have been fully vaccinated?

 

[skybluetony176]

Not sure what the common sense is in forcing lockdown to end early is. I now personally know 4 people who’ve had it, 1 died, 1 got over it in a weekend pretty much but the other 2 look to be suffering from long Covid. The latter being an unknown and seems to get more common with the new strains. My worry is the long term pressure on the NHS. If some of these people need care for years. IIRC 1 in 20 are getting long Covid, most for 3 months after being initially infected but many don’t seem to be shaking it. How bad you got it in the first place doesn’t seem to matter either.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

My kids are saying that home learning is no different to school at the moment. Aside from seeing their friends on a daily basis.

Where would you stand on refusing to send your kids and insisting that they continue to learn remotely until the adults in the house have been fully vaccinated?

I don’t have children, but I would support it for secondary age ones. The difference between a remote lesson with cameras on and a physical one where the teacher can’t go and help students or even hand a worksheet out is negligible. Same for the social side if they are going to be distanced from friends.

In my case where practical work is effectively banned, there is no meaningful difference and with weaker students it is actually much easier for me to give them 1:1 help online than in a classroom where others are there and I can’t walk over.

 

[clint van damme]

 

[Ian1779]

My kids are saying that home learning is no different to school at the moment. Aside from seeing their friends on a daily basis.

Where would you stand on refusing to send your kids and insisting that they continue to learn remotely until the adults in the house have been fully vaccinated?

Despite the noise - there is no school or local authority that will sanction you at all if you chose to do this. Especially local authorities which have made it clear they will not pursue anything in regards to Cov-ID.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The stupid voices growing louder

Covid: Dominic Raab rejects CRG calls for lockdown easing date

It comes after Tory backbenchers called for England's Covid restrictions to be lifted by the end of April.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[skybluetony176]

The stupid voices growing louder

Covid: Dominic Raab rejects CRG calls for lockdown easing date

It comes after Tory backbenchers called for England's Covid restrictions to be lifted by the end of April.

www.bbc.co.uk

Yeah, they’ve basically changed the E in ERG for C. Same morons pretty much. Imagine taking something Desmond Swayne has to say seriously.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yeah, they’ve basically changed the E in ERG for C. Same morons pretty much. Imagine taking something Desmond Swayne has to say seriously.

Morons in Labour also on board with bringing everyone to school before the top 4 have even been second jabbed. Bullshit claims repeated about children ‘left behind’ by people who can’t learn from the time where we just had thousands dying a day. Wellington has just locked down because they had 3 cases FFS