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shmmeee

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Its a huge group. My surgery seems to be doing the 65-69 first but not sure if that's something they've decided or something mandated by NHS England. They did have to stop vaccinating for a while before starting the 65-69s at the weekend which they have said was down to NHS England.

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I’ve heard a few places say that when they’ve finished a group they have to get the OK that they can move on. NHS England checking they haven’t missed anyone or something.

Seems needless to me, just prioritise those you missed if you need to, but surely don’t stop and wait for anything? 🤷
 

SBAndy

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Bedworth Civic Hall announced yesterday that they had a bit of surplus and were encouraging anyone around the age of 60 to contact them. My mum and my other half’s parents have now all had their first vaccine and are booked in for early May for their 2nd.
 

fernandopartridge

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I’ve heard a few places say that when they’ve finished a group they have to get the OK that they can move on. NHS England checking they haven’t missed anyone or something.

Seems needless to me, just prioritise those you missed if you need to, but surely don’t stop and wait for anything?
I deal with NHS England regularly, an ivory tower organisation that thinks it knows better than experienced people on the ground, funny how Matt Hancock is making noise about wanting more political control. My experience of them is that they're already micro managed by the SoS as it is.
 

Brylowes

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Aren’t they also doing 16-65 with underlying health issues at the same time though? That’s a massive group of about 7m people.
Its a huge group. My surgery seems to be doing the 65-69 first but not sure if that's something they've decided or something mandated by NHS England. They did have to stop vaccinating for a while before starting the 65-69s at the weekend which they have said was down to NHS England.

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A group of 7 million people, brings it home just how many people ‘of no real age’ are at serious risk from this virus, when people keep repeating the mantra that it only effects the elderly and vulnerable I don’t think they realise just how wide ranging that group actually is.
 

shmmeee

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So come on, any other fat fuckers like me considering upping their calorie intake and aiming for full on morbid obesity to skip the vaccine queue?
 

shmmeee

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Just came across this, when I was looking for the impact on rate of first jabs that people needing second jabs would be:

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That seems to suggest there's no plans to keep giving first doses to those under 50 until all those over 50/vulnerable have had both their jabs, is that right?
 

Liquid Gold

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Just came across this, when I was looking for the impact on rate of first jabs that people needing second jabs would be:

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That seems to suggest there's no plans to keep giving first doses to those under 50 until all those over 50/vulnerable have had both their jabs, is that right?
I'm guessing based on the Y axis they're just assuming an 80% uptake and just having this as a total for those groups as opposed the whole population.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Just came across this, when I was looking for the impact on rate of first jabs that people needing second jabs would be:

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That seems to suggest there's no plans to keep giving first doses to those under 50 until all those over 50/vulnerable have had both their jabs, is that right?

That surely can't be right as people's second jabs would be coming due way before then?
 

shmmeee

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I'm guessing based on the Y axis they're just assuming an 80% uptake and just having this as a total for those groups as opposed the whole population.

That makes a lot of sense. Still curious what the overall curve looks like then.

That surely can't be right as people's second jabs would be coming due way before then?

When did the programme start? 12 weeks from Dec 20th is March 14th.
 

fernandopartridge

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That makes a lot of sense. Still curious what the overall curve looks like then.



When did the programme start? 12 weeks from Dec 20th is March 14th.

First jab was 8th Dec I think. The govt made the decision to extend the gap between doses to 12 weeks on 11th Jan. Assume then that everybody from 8th Dec to 10th Jan has generally had the second dose now (second dose numbers increase a little day by day which might just be appointment convenience).
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Johnson press conference at 5. Wonder if he'll start announcing plan to ease lockdown.

I also think the plan being 'cautious but irreversible' is a ridiculous thing to say. In a situation like this the one thing it needs to be is reversible. If things start going badly again we need to change tack to allow for that.

Pandering to the nutcases again.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Johnson press conference at 5. Wonder if he'll start announcing plan to ease lockdown.

I also think the plan being 'cautious but irreversible' is a ridiculous thing to say. In a situation like this the one thing it needs to be is reversible. If things start going badly again we need to change tack to allow for that.

Pandering to the nutcases again.

He knows the dumbasses in the electorate will give him a free pass on any mistakes no matter how many die or how corrupt they are. Just blame it all on teachers probably
 

MusicDating

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He knows the dumbasses in the electorate will give him a free pass on any mistakes no matter how many die or how corrupt they are. Just blame it all on teachers probably
Well, if everyone was uneducated, even more people would believe him...And but for them bloody scientists, we'd have been living like Swedes for months...so woe betide (never thought I'd type that on SBT!) anyone who's teachy and sciencey...
 

clint van damme

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Johnson press conference at 5. Wonder if he'll start announcing plan to ease lockdown.

I also think the plan being 'cautious but irreversible' is a ridiculous thing to say. In a situation like this the one thing it needs to be is reversible. If things start going badly again we need to change tack to allow for that.

Pandering to the nutcases again.

I actually noticed a change in tact in the ministers I saw interviewed at the weekend who weren't letting themselves get cornered into giving arbitrary dates for sectors reopening and were making it clear that when dates given could be changed depending on the data.

Along comes the blustering idiot in chief to once again make promises he may have to renege on but not before people have died because of his stupidity. Absolute wanker.
 

rob9872

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So come on, any other fat fuckers like me considering upping their calorie intake and aiming for full on morbid obesity to skip the vaccine queue?
I wish I needed to, already flying the flag for the morbidly obese here
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Scottish government wants a combined 4 nations approach to international arrivals. Funny how they keep arguing for the union by accident
 

CCFCSteve

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Johnson press conference at 5. Wonder if he'll start announcing plan to ease lockdown.

I also think the plan being 'cautious but irreversible' is a ridiculous thing to say. In a situation like this the one thing it needs to be is reversible. If things start going badly again we need to change tack to allow for that.

Pandering to the nutcases again.

I think that ‘cautious but irreversible’ comment has been taken out of context. From what I’ve read Johnson was saying the dates to be announced next week will be the earliest for releasing certain restrictions in stages, and if there’s a spike they won’t hesitate to delay stages further.

He wants the progress out of lockdown to be cautious but irreversible ie if they’re careful they shouldn’t hopefully need to lock back down again
 

clint van damme

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I think that ‘cautious but irreversible’ comment has been taken out of context. From what I’ve read Johnson was saying the dates to be announced next week will be the earliest for releasing certain restrictions in stages, and if there’s a spike they won’t hesitate to delay stages further.

He wants the progress out of lockdown to be cautious but irreversible ie if they’re careful they shouldn’t hopefully need to lock back down again

Your tireless defence of this government just jumped the shark!!
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I think that ‘cautious but irreversible’ comment has been taken out of context. From what I’ve read Johnson was saying the dates to be announced next week will be the earliest for releasing certain restrictions in stages, and if there’s a spike they won’t hesitate to delay stages further.

He wants the progress out of lockdown to be cautious but irreversible ie if they’re careful they shouldn’t hopefully need to lock back down again

He's going to reopen schools and get a more infectious strain spreading around because he has no spine in resisting the calls of his moron backbenchers. If I weren't at risk of getting sacked because of it I'd refuse to go in on 8th March.
 

clint van damme

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Im the first to kick Steve for slavish defence of the government but I think he’s right here.

In this most fluid of situations he should not be using the word irreversible at all.

Given the amount of u turns he's had to do you'd think he'd have more sense.
 

CCFCSteve

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Im the first to kick Steve for slavish defence of the government but I think he’s right here.

Haha, very rarely is it ‘slavish’, I just try to point out the misunderstandings/misinfo on here Shmmeee 😉

People want to have a go even when what the government is saying/doing is supporting their own view !!!
 

CCFCSteve

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He's going to reopen schools and get a more infectious strain spreading around because he has no spine in resisting the calls of his moron backbenchers. If I weren't at risk of getting sacked because of it I'd refuse to go in on 8th March.

I was talking about the specific quote BSB which was taken out of context
 

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