hill83
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He always brings it back to him and how he has been affected.
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He always brings it back to him and how he has been affected.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Nope. Wrong.
Topic about murdered woman escalates into a platform for feminists to spread their man hating bilge. An attempt to counteract that is then shot down, and the offended brigade come out and get on their high horse regarding opinions of (another woman) Davina McCall for saying something that is completely common sense.
If it is equality you want, do you want me to cross a road for a member of the opposite sex or not? Which one is it?
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Standing up for women and standing up for men doesn't have to be one or the other.
hill83
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Don’t even know what this is supposed to mean.
Skybluefaz
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Who has been spreading man hating bilge? Offended brigade? Utter drivel yet again from you.
Why did @Earlsdon_Skyblue1 cross the road?
To get to the other side I WILL NOT BE MUZZLED LIKE A DOG, NO SPECIAL TREATMENT FOR ANYONE I SAY, TAKE THAT MEN-HATERS
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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It means you can care about the welfare of both men and women without having to take sides.
hill83
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Why are you even saying that. Are you trying to say I’m against myself? Because I’m not. What’s your point. I’m against the fucking idiots that pop up in every thread saying the same bollocks in every thread.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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How is any of that drivel? You have the internet, go and have a look.
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Evo1883
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A woman?
Let me try this one then:
'If we're not careful', we'll end up with women wanting help to not be afraid for their own lives? Seems like pretty reasonable "special treatment" to me. I don't see how that makes our society more unequal than it already is - unless, of course, you're just quite comfortable with the current status quo and don't want it changed.
'If we're not careful', we'll end up with women wanting help to not be afraid for their own lives? Seems like pretty reasonable "special treatment" to me. I don't see how that makes our society more unequal than it already is - unless, of course, you're just quite comfortable with the current status quo and don't want it changed.
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I still don't get why there's a minority on this thread complaining about being asked to do what, it seems, most of us do anyway!
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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I've literally just explained it.
If I say not all men are rapists, no that isn't right.
If I say we should cross the street for women, no that isn't right.
If I say we should all take precautions, no that isn't right.
It isn't about my point, it is about what you, and several others on this thread, as well as places like twitter actually want.
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It seems it's out there to take collective responsibility for one another's safety, for sure...
Ian1779
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Should self defence even have to exist?
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Personally I'm going for the smug and self-satisfied feeling that comes with doing much of what's asked by most, intermingled with slight embarrassment that for years it never occurred to me how some things may be perceived.
In doing that I feel no less of a man, my son.
In doing that I feel no less of a man, my son.
Evo1883
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Ideal world no
Skybluefaz
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HE WANTS TO DEFUND THE POLICE. SNOWFLAKE LEFTY.
Marty
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We don't live in a perfect world, so yes it does need to exist.
I want us to accept the reality that men and women are treated differently, and change our behaviour to account for that, in the hope it will make things more fair. Does that make sense?
Equality doesn't mean 'treat everyone the same', it means helping people out where it's needed to level things out.
Marty
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What about the personal responsibility? If you feel scared in a certain situation, surely the onus is on you to learn the skills to deal with those situations.
hill83
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Looks like I’m learning to become a pilot, and spider handler and a final five minutes of a game when we are 1-0 up specialist then.
Marty
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What is wrong with making steps that over come your fears?
hill83
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I didn’t say there was. I was making a joke.
Ian1779
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We should aspire to make it irrelevant at the very least.
Marty
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I know you were, implying it was a stupid idea, it's the most logic step for people to take.
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