Sarah Everard (13 Viewers)

[David O'Day]

Nick - every three days a woman is killed by a man. I can't think of any man being killed by a woman offhand and yet you're spaffing about women drooling over Chippendales or dirty hen night chatter.

Because he's an utterly clueless individual.

 

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[Ian1779]

Well they did at Mr Corbyn and his protest. I can’t see you expressing concern then? Why?

No one should be manhandled by the police. I assume you are in agreement with that.

 

[David O'Day]

Don't know for sure if I contributed but being honest I Probably did. Apologies

Yes it is just banter and as others have pointed out, probably the sort of thing women do as well but if a bit of introspection is needed then fair enough.

I have actually mentioned that thread to Nick as it's that bad that even Simon Gilbert has used it as a stick to beat this forum

 

[clint van damme]

Nick - every three days a woman is killed by a man. I can't think of any man being killed by a woman offhand and yet you're spaffing about women drooling over Chippendales or dirty hen night chatter.

Think it's 2 a month men killed by women, so not to be taken lightly but still not the main driver of inter gender violence.
After this thread tonight hope the wife finishes me off in my sleep

 

[Evo1883]

No one should be manhandled by the police. I assume you are in agreement with that.

Situational Ofcourse

 

[Evo1883]

To be honest, these women / men should have listened to the met police advice and the organisers advice and stayed away..

I think we all agree on that

Much like the rangers fans, much like all the others who have congregated over the last 12 months to protest and celebrate various things...

Law = breaking

The police get shit when they do nothing (rangers fans) and shit when they do something (tonight) so they are in a shit position

 

[David O'Day]

In the end the scenes we have seen today are pretty fucking disgraceful from the Met.

The high court said the could work with organisers to facilitate peaceful and safe protests but they refused. They knew people were that angry that they would still gather and they chose to manhandle peaceful protesters. The optics are awful and so is the morality.

Still some cunts are happy with that.

 

[Nick]

Nick - every three days a woman is killed by a man. I can't think of any man being killed by a woman offhand and yet you're spaffing about women drooling over Chippendales or dirty hen night chatter.

Have a look at what it was in reply to. I didn't just post it randomly.

As I said earlier, it's extremes isn't it? Compare a thread about blokes talking about celebs they fancy to killing women though?

 

[SG21]

Think it's 2 a month men killed by women, so not to be taken lightly but still not the main driver of inter gender violence.
After this thread tonight hope the wife finishes me off in my sleep

It's probably a lot higher given the male suicide rates.

 

[Evo1883]

In the end the scenes we have seen today are pretty fucking disgraceful from the Met.

The high court said the could work with organisers to facilitate peaceful and safe protests but they refused. They knew people were that angry that they would still gather and they chose to manhandle peaceful protesters. The optics are awful and so is the morality.

Still some cunts are happy with that.

These protesters are breaking the law though David...the laws that you all want enforced as proven in the covid 19 threads

 

[Nick]

No one should be manhandled by the police. I assume you are in agreement with that.

Guess it depends what for, surely?

 

[David O'Day]

 

[Ian1779]

Guess it depends what for, surely?

If protestors are violent that’s not the same... but these ones aren’t.

 

[Evo1883]

If protestors are violent that’s not the same... but these ones aren’t.

They're breaking the law Ian, it's that simple

 

[clint van damme]

These protesters are breaking the law though David...

If only the MET had been so effective when one if their officers was murdering a woman. Thats a bit faceicious admittedly but I've got a feeling this murder will be linked to the indecent exposure complaint and the METs failure to deal with it. Just a hunch

 

[David O'Day]

If protestors are violent that’s not the same... but these ones aren’t.

The moment the Met decided to kick off




Basically attacking non violent people

 

[Evo1883]

If only the MET had been so effective when one if their officers was murdering a woman. Thats a bit faceicious admittedly but I've got a feeling this murder will be linked to the indecent exposure complaint and the METs failure to deal with it. Just a hunch

I agree, and I don't condone all the other gatherings etc...

We can't pick and choose though, these people have broken the law.... And should be treated as such.

Its what we all debated so hard over during this pandemic

 

[David O'Day]

If only the MET had been so effective when one if their officers was murdering a woman. Thats a bit faceicious admittedly but I've got a feeling this murder will be linked to the indecent exposure complaint and the METs failure to deal with it. Just a hunch

Also they seem to have ignored the suspects previous sexual offences which makes it their fault.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

It was obvious this was always going to happen.

Sadly, Sarah's death had been weaponised from the start by a lot of man and police haters who saw this as an opportunity to spread their bilge. Yet, when you say that people get offended and try to launch attacks at anyone pointing it out.

I'm not saying the police handled this correctly, but there are videos circulating of protesters (yes protesters, not people paying their respects) attacking the police first. They were told not to go, we are in a pandemic, they still went.

I have no sympathy for anyone getting involved today, and it is a massive shame that whilst a girl has lost her life, people are behaving in such a disgraceful manner. There were people turning up with ACAB placards - you cannot suggest for one minute they were there for anything other than political motivation. It's sick.

 

[Evo1883]

It still doesn't allow for people to gather in their hundreds or thousands during a pandemic... Whatever the police failings are

 

[clint van damme]

I agree, and I don't condone all the other gatherings etc...

We can't pick and choose though, these people have broken the law.... And should be treated as such.

Its what we all debated so hard over during this pandemic

Yeah. I was just trying to be an amateur sleuth

 

[Nick]

If only the MET had been so effective when one if their officers was murdering a woman. Thats a bit faceicious admittedly but I've got a feeling this murder will be linked to the indecent exposure complaint and the METs failure to deal with it. Just a hunch

Jesus Christ, you have been reading too much shite on Twitter.

Can you not see the difference between thousands gathered in a park and one wrong un as to why the police presence will be different?

 

[clint van damme]

It was obvious this was always going to happen.

Sadly, Sarah's death had been weaponised from the start by a lot of man and police haters who saw this as an opportunity to spread their bilge. Yet, when you say that people get offended and try to launch attacks at anyone pointing it out.

I'm not saying the police handled this correctly, but there are videos circulating of protesters (yes protesters, not people paying their respects) attacking the police first. They were told not to go, we are in a pandemic, they still went.

I have no sympathy for anyone getting involved today, and it is a massive shame that whilst a girl has lost her life, people are behaving in such a disgraceful manner. There were people turning up with ACAB placards - you cannot suggest for one minute they were there for anything other than political motivation. It's sick.

It's almost as if she been murdered by a serving policeman

 

[clint van damme]

Jesus Christ, you have been reading too much shite on Twitter.

Can you not see the difference between thousands gathered in a park and one wrong un? Yes of course they should have dealt with him as soon as it was reported and hopefully if something was ignored then people get dealt with.

No I haven't been on Twitter
Wrong again. At least you're consistent.
What have you been reading on Twitter to form an.opinion of what's been going on on there?

 

[David O'Day]

Compare the Met and their reaction to them not understanding the law and the police in Bristol where at the vigil of several hundred people only 4 coppers turned up watched and let everyone go home peacefully.

Still if you give the top job to someone who's previous CV highlights include being in charge of any operation that led to an innocent Brazilian being shot by police for running for a train the what can you expect.

 

[Ian1779]

It still doesn't allow for people to gather in their hundreds or thousands during a pandemic... Whatever the police failings are

There is a sanction for doing that which involves a fine. It doesn’t include being strongarmed to the floor and maybe a little bit of a kicking though.

 

[Evo1883]

It's almost as if she been murdered by a serving policeman

It doesn't mean the police are bad people though clint, the vast majority are just hard working people like you or sometimes me

 

[Nick]

It's almost as if she been murdered by a serving policeman

Yes, she has been. That shouldn't go unnoticed.

It's almost as if there has been thousands of people anti police who have used this to kick off. Did people not realise hours ago this would happen?

If a lorry driver kills somebody should we treat them all the same?

 

[Ian1779]

Yes, she has been. That shouldn't go unnoticed.

It's almost as if there has been thousands of people anti police who have used this to kick off.

If a lorry driver kills somebody should we treat them all the same?

Where have people at these vigils kicked off??

 

[SG21]

Not sure that's an "attack". More like, arresting for turning up to virgil that was made illegal.

 

[Evo1883]

There is a sanction for doing that which involves a fine. It doesn’t include being strongarmed to the floor and maybe a little bit of a kicking though.

Well, I'm sure you feel the same about dickheads marching for the EDL etc.

JUST GO HOME

We are in a pandemic

 

[clint van damme]

It doesn't mean the police are bad people though clint, the vast majority are just hard working people like you or sometimes me

I appreciate 5hat
Though the METs charge sheet is pretty grim, but it does form public opinion.

 

[David O'Day]

Not sure that's an "attack". More like, arresting for turning up to virgil that was made illegal.

fuck off mate the police can only use reasonable force so going above the level force that is reasonable is by law attacking.

 

[Evo1883]

I appreciate 5hat
Though the METs charge sheet is pretty grim, but it does form public opinion.

I agree, we do have to consider that no institution can be perfectly clean, especially an institution that relies on interacting with people, often dangerous and angry people... Things can and do go wrong

 

[David O'Day]

You know the dibble have gone too far when Priti Patel thinks you have overstepped the line.