rob9872
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£3 not £20
This season home/away shirt - M&M Direct (8 Viewers)
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Adge
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Yes or no?
Adge
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Simple every day life economics-if you were buying several for your family etc then most would go for the outlet that had the best price and save themselves in the process a few quid. But of course you will get the divs that will always pay over the odds at the official club shop even if it was cheaper elsewhere as the “money goes to the club”
Alkhen
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Divs is harsh, if you can afford it and and you want to put money into the club then direct is the best route. Would be nice if the service was better and post was more reasonable in the store. Said elsewhere I wanted to get a bobble hat for my lad but postage was more than the hat!
rob9872
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Cheers I'm feckin div. Keep supporting dodgy ifollow streams because it's cheaper
Alkhen
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Pretty sure the club would have got a cut at some point. Not as much as direct but I'm sure hummel can't just pump out licensed shirts and undercut the club. They probably paid a licence or factored a quantity of shirts they can sell on the hummel store in the sponsor deal.
£18 vs £23.50 might not sound a lot but if you've already paid the £10 a year for free next day delivery with M and M (as someone in my family had so I used their account) it becomes £18 vs £29.45. So (after buying the home and third shirts from the club on release) I got the away top from M and M. As has already been said, the club will be getting their cut from Hummel.
Cheers I'm feckin div. Keep supporting dodgy ifollow streams because it's cheaper
It's quite a step to compare people legally buying a top from an authorised retailer, to illegally downloading match streams.
mark82
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It's not quite the same argument as the club will be getting something from M&M.
Blind-Faith
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Just ordered home and away shirt. Great price!
Does anyone know if the club gets anything from the sales??
Does anyone know if the club gets anything from the sales??
Jesse Carver
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It must be a Hummel thing, there are this seasons shirts for Northampton, Charlton and Southend on there too.
Johnnythespider
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I'm guessing it's based on numbers sold, last years shirt sold tons and didn't show up at m&m.
chiefdave
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Can @mark82 or @Sky Blue Pete email Dave Boddy and find out. The club doesn't actually run the club shop or mail order does it? That is outsourced to Hummel so it may make no difference at all where you buy a kit from.
Sky Blue Pete
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Will ask
Terry_dactyl
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Exactly.
Is it a sign of how far we’ve fallen/how much we’ve risen, that fans have forgotten that we used to be able to buy City shirts from actual retailers?
My mum bought my 1986 city top from Sports Supplies on Albany Rd. Bastards!
Alkhen
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Hi Pete, not sure if it has been covered but I have a feeling that current postage charges are actually damaging sales for the club.The flat £5.95 charge for any order really puts people off making impulse or gift purchases.
The current flat rate is pretty much double what the common providers cost. Even factoring in admin/packaging it is pretty steep.
items 1kg and under rates:
InPost - £2.70
Hermes - £2.90
Royal Mail - £3.60
DPD - £3.85
Sky Blue Pete
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£5.95 the ccfc charge?
rob9872
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That was my original question. If they do then there is no problem.
rob9872
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I don't think it is. The point I was making was about getting something on the cheap that satisfies your need but deprives the club of money. Personally I have no problem with either and respect that everyone's financial situation is different and nobody else's business, but if someone suggested they had access to watch games in the same quality for half the cost or free but not through ifollow there would be uproar on here - either that or we'd be divs for paying full price.
ajsccfc
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The legality aspect makes it a big difference no matter how similar other facets of it are. It's not clear whether the club is being deprived of money or by how much and nobody buying a shirt is doing anything wrong, whereas anyone watching a dodgy stream is knowingly doing both.
Alkhen
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Hi yeah its a flat rate regardless of what is ordered. So £5.95 post if you buy a keyring or a training jacket!
for some context just checked what other clubs around our level charge:
Derby have a flat £2.99 post rate for UK
Brum have a tiered system. £2.50 small items and £5 for larger/more pricey stuff
Sheffield Wed have tiers depending on order value £2-£6
Blackburn £3.95 flat rate
Most have a free post option for large orders. we have in the past but I think it isnt available now.
you get the idea!
Cov are definitely the most expensive. might be palatable if it was next day delivery but its 2nd class 3-5 day. I have had more than one occasion when they have got an order wrong or have had to back order something which takes weeks to sort.
HuckerbysQuiff
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Infant kits have no been listed on M&M if anyone’s interested in getting there smallest into a Cov kits! Also got long sleeved junior home shirts too!
Alkhen
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Would have thought there is still plenty of profit from selling a polyester t-shirt for £18! The club would have got some wedge for this stock even if it was from the Hummel direct store (which it looks like it was as the club shop still has stock)
Sky Blue Pete
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Have asked the club about the cost being high and received this answer
The club have been liaising with our Retail Partner and they are currently in the process of reviewing postage options with various delivery companies
The club have been liaising with our Retail Partner and they are currently in the process of reviewing postage options with various delivery companies
Alkhen
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good work. nice to know there is a dialog with the club nowadays
skybluesam66
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any retailer with overstocks at the end of a season will sell off to a trader at a heavily discounted price
Hummel/CCFC will probably cover their costs
M&M will probably have paid £5 - £7 per shirt, and make a good profit
No different to what M&S/Argos etc do, and that is why you see openly traded branded clothing on market stalls (albeit may have tags crossed etc)
Hummel/CCFC will probably cover their costs
M&M will probably have paid £5 - £7 per shirt, and make a good profit
No different to what M&S/Argos etc do, and that is why you see openly traded branded clothing on market stalls (albeit may have tags crossed etc)
Sky Blue Pete
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They’ve done a little bit of work looking into it and ccfc aren’t too bad
We’ve just done some research on all other Championship Clubs postage costs.
The averages are:
Postage - £4.67
Minimum spend threshold to get free postage - £64.55
So although the current fees are above they average its only slightly above both averages.
3 clubs minimum spend is £100 to get free postage
However 15 clubs don’t offer free postage at all – no matter how much you spend. The average postage of these 15 clubs is £4.68
Only 2 clubs offer varying postage costs based on spend/weight/size etc
Really quite interesting that
We’ve just done some research on all other Championship Clubs postage costs.
The averages are:
Postage - £4.67
Minimum spend threshold to get free postage - £64.55
So although the current fees are above they average its only slightly above both averages.
3 clubs minimum spend is £100 to get free postage
However 15 clubs don’t offer free postage at all – no matter how much you spend. The average postage of these 15 clubs is £4.68
Only 2 clubs offer varying postage costs based on spend/weight/size etc
Really quite interesting that