Which players would you keep for next season? (1 Viewer)

Frostie

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Owners are I think permitted to oversee losses of £15m and can put equity in the club

Championship clubs are permitted to make a loss of up to £5m per season, this increases to £13m if the owners are prepared to inject the cash to cover it I believe.
 

Grendel

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Championship clubs are permitted to make a loss of up to £5m per season, this increases to £13m if the owners are prepared to inject the cash to cover it I believe.

It’s not measured until 3 seasons though so you can lose £39m by the end of season 3 and still even if the owner doesn’t fully address it the penalties are fairly mundane
 

shmmeee

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The point on the budget debate is mark robins has zero knowledge of other clubs budget (I assume he means wages) and the suggestion we have less spend than Wycombe is utter drivel

People talk. Technically no one in my company knows each other’s wages, but we all do.
 

stevefloyd

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The list is

Marosi/ Wilson

Mason/Rose/McFadz/Hyam/Pask/Dabo/Dacosta/Reid

Kelly/Jones/Allen/Jobello/O'Hare/Hilsner/Kasta/Shipley/Hamer

Walker/Godden/Biamou/Baka/Tavares

These are the first teamers obviously not included the loanees although maybe Sheaf could be added and of course we have development players and the under 23's potentially

I guess we will see one of the goalkeepers going possibly Marosi because we may get money for him and keep Wilson as back up, less agro for Robins, with Mason, Allen, Jobello, Hilsner, Kasta, Shipley, Baka and maybe Hyam if Drysdale is deemed good enough to step up
 

Grendel

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People talk. Technically no one in my company knows each other’s wages, but we all do.

That’s in your company and wages are not budget
 

shmmeee

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That’s in your company and wages are not budget

Yes it is. It’s also an analogy showing that supposedly private info isn’t in a group that interact frequently. Such as employees and pay or football managers and playing budget.

Also they’ll talk to players who will know which clubs pay what.
 

Grendel

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Yes it is. It’s also an analogy showing that supposedly private info isn’t in a group that interact frequently. Such as employees and pay or football managers and playing budget.

Also they’ll talk to players who will know which clubs pay what.

It really isn’t you don’t know the ins and outs of 23 separate olds and budget could mean many things;

Ratio to turnover
wages
Ability to transact and spend on new commodities
Amount of owner investment (which would be very confidential)

Rotherham had when relegated a £10 million wage bill. This season they have spent a tiny fee on one player. We have spent £2.5m on two alone and recruited a player in January from the premier league. So whose got the biggest ability to transact? The guy who spends £2.5m on new players or the one whose got an existing high wage bill and can’t transact?
 

shmmeee

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It really isn’t you don’t know the ins and outs of 23 separate olds and budget could mean many things;

Ratio to turnover
wages
Ability to transact and spend on new commodities
Amount of owner investment (which would be very confidential)

Rotherham had when relegated a £10 million wage bill. This season they have spent a tiny fee on one player. We have spent £2.5m on two alone and recruited a player in January from the premier league. So whose got the biggest ability to transact? The guy who spends £2.5m on new players or the one whose got an existing high wage bill and can’t transact?

Wages play a lot more of a role than fees IMO, and generally determine the quality you can get.

We’ve spent £2.5m of the £3m we earned for selling players, it’s a different model to Rotherham.

Also focusing on the three promoted teams and not the vast bulk of the division kind of misses the point.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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Ohare, Walker, godden, Marosi (as back up) rose, Kelly, Dabo, Leo (hopefully) Hamer......the rest can be replaced
 

SBAndy

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I think I’d like to see us go back to 4231. Get a striker who can lead the line, a couple of wide forwards, and then hopefully we only need one CB a GK and a proper LB. Play O’Hare in the number 10 with Hamer and Sheaf behind.

We’ve really lacked wide forwards this season.

It’s why I’d be looking at someone like Marcus Browne in the summer, who could play centrally (in a 1 or 2 behind a striker) or out wide (in a 3).
 

stupot07

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I think I’d like to see us go back to 4231. Get a striker who can lead the line, a couple of wide forwards, and then hopefully we only need one CB a GK and a proper LB. Play O’Hare in the number 10 with Hamer and Sheaf behind.

We’ve really lacked wide forwards this season.
Agreed We need to decide how we want to play, how we are going to score goals, etc and recruit to that.

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fatso

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Pressuming we survive, I'd keep,

Dabo, Ostigard, Hyam, Rose, Hamer, kelly, James, Ohare, Walker and Godden.

That's 10 players out of an entire squad.
The rest I'd look to move on asap.

Sheaf and McRedcard I'd have to have a long think about, it depends on our budget, but I certainly wouldn't pay much for Sheaf, he looks bang average, and hes blocking Eccles's possible path to the first team.
 

Sick Boy

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Pressuming we survive, I'd keep,

Dabo, Ostigard, Hyam, Rose, Hamer, kelly, James, Ohare, Walker and Godden.

That's 10 players out of an entire squad.
The rest I'd look to move on asap.

Sheaf and McRedcard I'd have to have a long think about, it depends on our budget, but I certainly wouldn't pay much for Sheaf, he looks bang average, and hes blocking Eccles's possible path to the first team.
We have an obligation to buy Sheaf.
 

shmmeee

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I thought he had been released by Arsenal a few weeks ago, which should release us from the obligation.
Unless I misheard.

As he’s on loan it would also mean he can’t play for us right now, which he’s doing. Can’t see that being true.
 

SBAndy

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Agreed We need to decide how we want to play, how we are going to score goals, etc and recruit to that.

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Quite the opposite. We’ve done that this season and it’s limited us severely. Adaptability (as highlighted by my Marcus Browne example) is what I’d be looking at.
 

shmmeee

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Quite the opposite. We’ve done that this season and it’s limited us severely. Adaptability (as highlighted by my Marcus Browne example) is what I’d be looking at.

We seemed to recruit for 352 this season and have barely played it.
 

rob9872

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For next season imo (assuming we're signing James) then we need a new GK and let one go, either one or two CB (Ostigard unlikely but ideally him +1) and the other CB needs to be a left footer. If we can get a quality loan centre forward from the Prem along with the aforementioned new Keeper and CB then I think we're capable of top half.
 

Hobo

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I would try to get money for Hyam, Jobello and Pask as they are good League 1 players which would add some money to the budget

You wont generate much. Most League 1 transfers dont generate fees or very little.
 

KenilworthSkyBlue

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You wont generate much. Most League 1 transfers dont generate fees or very little.

It would only make sense to sell Hyam if we were to stay up.

However, assuming that was to happen, I'd wager that we'd be able to generate a fairly reasonable fee from the sale of Hyam. He's still relatively young, has experience in achieving promotion out of League One - where he was arguably one of the best CB's in the league - and despite struggling, has Championship experience as well.

It wouldn't be overly significant by any means but it would certainly help in boosting the coffers for the new season.
 

Grendel

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It would only make sense to sell Hyam if we were to stay up.

However, assuming that was to happen, I'd wager that we'd be able to generate a fairly reasonable fee from the sale of Hyam. He's still relatively young, has experience in achieving promotion out of League One - where he was arguably one of the best CB's in the league - and despite struggling, has Championship experience as well.

It wouldn't be overly significant by any means but it would certainly help in boosting the coffers for the new season.

We’d get about £100 grand for him
 

cc84cov

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I suspect we'd be able to get a little higher. My guess was around £200k - £250k.

Certainly enough to warrant the club activating his one-year extension and putting him out to market. Assuming we stay up that is.
No chance he’s been exposed at this level
 

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