Grendel
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How do you know the wages of clubs out of interest this season?
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How do you know the wages of clubs out of interest this season?
no_loyalty
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Who takes over in the interim?
Grendel
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Viveash I assume
Tommo1993
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Our philosophies or Robins/Viveash philosophies that got us here in the first place? And were sussed within 2 minutes of championship football?
fernandopartridge
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No, I've calmed down from Friday. It isn't the right time to change and the manager deserves better.
It's funny really, if you'd have said we'd spend almost the entire season outside the bottom 3, despite missing one or more key players for a lot of the season, and fans were calling for Robins' head, you'd think fans are stupid.
That said, despite everything it's hard to ignore the many games where we've appeared to settle for a point where 3 were very much achievable. Whether that's solely down to the manager I don't know but it would certainly appear to be his biggest issue.
It's funny really, if you'd have said we'd spend almost the entire season outside the bottom 3, despite missing one or more key players for a lot of the season, and fans were calling for Robins' head, you'd think fans are stupid.
That said, despite everything it's hard to ignore the many games where we've appeared to settle for a point where 3 were very much achievable. Whether that's solely down to the manager I don't know but it would certainly appear to be his biggest issue.
Grendel
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If we go down?
fernandopartridge
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If we go down I think he probably should go depending on how we go down.
Why are you so keen on changing manager if you think that anybody would have to "worship at the alter of SISU"? Surely that makes it all a bit moot?
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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What you on about sussed, Robins freaked at any side that had intent and went ultra defensive. The one time we had a go we won 2-0 against Brentford.
I’m not saying gung ho but the second half of the season we look like we’re set up for a 0-0. There’s no guile. Robins always basically makes it sound like we don’t belong here - hows that for man management
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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You’re correct. All of us are Coventry fans, we’re frustrated at the team because we know full well they can stay up in this league
Grendel
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Manager change can get a short term re boot and now I see us in real trouble and relegation would be a disaster and we could easily spend another decade in the wilderness
Otis
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Exactly.
We go down fighting and playing with passion and we can see there is a plan in place, but find it's just a bridge too far, then that would be okay.
Go down and keep losing and keep looking clueless, spineless and without any coherent system, then I would definitely be changing my vote from no.
I certainly don't support the "even if we lose every game left" stance.
That would be the most horrendous run and any manager would be expecting to be sacked on the back of that.
Birmingham have shown what can be achieved with a bit of high energy and battle mentality.
Jagmannn
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Slaven Bilic ..he is just pissing about in china now
no_loyalty
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On a massive salary no doubt, he wouldn’t come here anyway.
Legia Sky Blue
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Despite the poor run we are on your opinion isn't supported by the bookies, who probably offer the most realistic independent guide to where we currently stand. Current relegation odds are Wycombe 1/200, Sheff Wed 1/10, Rotherham 6/4, Birmingham 2/1, CCFC 9/4, Derby 9/1, Huddersfield 9/1, Preston 16/1.
Of course our odds were much longer a few weeks back and if we lose on Monday then they will look a lot worse, but until that time I'm going to be positive and believe we will stay up. On Robins I don't see SISU sacking him even if we go down, and unless we meekly lose the remaining 8 games I wouldn't want rid of him either.
Johhny Blue
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Tenures
Otis
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Teapots or cups and saucers?
That's basically describing Mark Robins, but worse.
The only differences being Robins plays 3-4-2-1 and got us 8th in League One and then 1st.
Lowe got 7th and is currently 14th.
Why would we swap for that?
Wyken Sky Blue
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Let's see what happens on Monday.
If we win then all bets are off... For now
If we lose then its in the manner of how we lost. If we lose because Bristol City has a a bit more quality then I can accept that. If we lose because we played like we did against QPR then its time to question Mark Robins
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If we win then all bets are off... For now
If we lose then its in the manner of how we lost. If we lose because Bristol City has a a bit more quality then I can accept that. If we lose because we played like we did against QPR then its time to question Mark Robins
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To me Robins is taking a lot of the flack for players' mistakes.
Yes Robins has made mistakes, but so have players. You can think back to some awful errors through the season and could easily add 4 or 5 points to the tally without some of the worst ones.
Then everyone would be lauding Robins as a genius, but without him actually doing anything differently.
Biamou giving the ball away v Forest. Rose turning into his own net in the reverse fixture. Wilson and Marosi dropping numerous clangers. Biamou's miss v Wycombe. Just a few examples.
Add the points that those errors cost us and all of a sudden we're comfortable and Robins is a hero in everyone's eyes despite doing exactly the same things and no one mentions his shortcomings.
Yes Robins has made mistakes, but so have players. You can think back to some awful errors through the season and could easily add 4 or 5 points to the tally without some of the worst ones.
Then everyone would be lauding Robins as a genius, but without him actually doing anything differently.
Biamou giving the ball away v Forest. Rose turning into his own net in the reverse fixture. Wilson and Marosi dropping numerous clangers. Biamou's miss v Wycombe. Just a few examples.
Add the points that those errors cost us and all of a sudden we're comfortable and Robins is a hero in everyone's eyes despite doing exactly the same things and no one mentions his shortcomings.
It's about what we expected. No more, no less.
Right now we're on course to do that so I really don't know what all the fuss is about.
AFCCOVENTRY
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Otis
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That's it in a nutshell
Look at Birmingham. They looked doomed and even their own fans were saying they were destined to go down. They looked such an awful side
Bowyer has simply got them playing at a higher energy and with a high pressing game. It's made a world of difference and we can surely emulate that.
High energy. Press, harry and close down.
It's not rocket science.
If we can't do that, Robins has to go.
We need to be sweating blood out there every game. We may have players of lesser quality than almost every other side in the league, but we are capable of working hard. We now have two goalscorers back in the fold.
I dare say, had we had Walker or Godden in earlier, they would have definitely have scored a number of those missed Biamou chances.
cov donkey kick
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What none of us want is Rotherham getting above us before any games in hand are played,if that happens we are in trouble so tomorrows game is crucial ,to robins it will show if he can motivate the squad and make clear decisions and get results.
AFCCOVENTRY
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What we have are the players and manager going though the motions with the same excuses. Neither manager or players seem to be able to turn this around.
Bowyer is a prime example of a new manager coming in and turning around players going through the motions to competing. We just can’t compete and it’s painful to see.
Are the players not listening to the management?
Is Robins tactically inept at this level?
Are the players just not able to step up to this level?
Lots of questions that need to be addressed at the end of the season but Robins and these players need to dig bloody deep, fight, show passion and keep us in the league somehow.
We will see at the end of the season the direction of travel going forward for a lot of these players and the manager...
shepardo01
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Things is though, we are NOT on course to do this!! That is the problem!
Yes, currently we are out of the bottom three. BUT....
We are sinking and both Wycombe and Rotherham have better form than us (though unlikely Wycombe will catch us)
Things carry on like this and we will be relegated.
AFCCOVENTRY
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Rotherham beat Wycombe tomorrow and at least draw with us and they will go above us. (On basis we lose to Bristol and Bournemouth). They will rest their best players for our game and not play them against QPR.
TomRad85
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If Rotherham draw with us, we get a point too...
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AFCCOVENTRY
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Haha...of course. But it’s all too close for my liking. But if they concentrate on beating Wycombe and then us that’s 6 points for them. Then they have Brum at home.
Rotherham have 1 point more from their last 6 games than we do.
Yes it's better but it's not like they're winning every other game.