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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Of course you did

To be fair G was praising him back in L2

 

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[skybluetony176]

To be fair G was praising him back in L2

Mainly because it was a way to have a dig at Robins though. That was always his angle. Even more so the following season.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

So the managers at the other clubs have dealt with him better and are better at man management than Robins - wow that’s a revelation actually

Or jch decided he was going to make a go of having a great career. But yep other managers have clearly got the best out of jch when robins couldn’t

 

[Grendel]

I’m outraged we got rid of Peter Vincenti after winning us promotion from league 2 but without doubt the biggest crime was ditching Roy O Donovan after he kept us in the championship

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Or jch decided he was going to make a go of having a great career. But yep other managers have clearly got the best out of jch when robins couldn’t

Maybe he remains scarred by Aidy Boothroyd sticking him in central midfield away at Morecambe 11 years ago.

 

[skybluetony176]

I’m outraged we got rid of Peter Vincenti after winning us promotion from league 2 but without doubt the biggest crime was ditching Roy O Donovan after he kept us in the championship

By that same yardstick then how do you explain that we wasn’t promoted automatically with JCH in the team?

Wait, wait... I have the answer coming through now. You’re talking bollocks as always.

 

[Grendel]

By that same yardstick then how do you explain that we wasn’t promoted automatically with JCH in the team?

Wait, wait... I have the answer coming through now. You’re talking bollocks as always.

He didn’t join until January Tony and biamou went 1,083 minutes before scoring a single goal in league 2

 

[skybluetony176]

He didn’t join until January Tony and biamou went 1,083 minutes before scoring a single goal in league 2

That’s true. We were sitting in fourth at the time. What position did we finish in?

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

It was the right decision to let him go at the time, he was on reportedly on good money, and we needed to release some money, and he was pretty shit for us. We wouldn't be able to keep him on the wages he was on, as 3rd or 4th choice. He wouldn't have scored anywhere near as many goals for us.

Good luck to him, people need to move on.


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Best post of this thread!

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[Danceswithhorses]

That's a shocking decision....the peterboro player pushes his arse against the lincoln defender and collapses on the floor.

 

[kg82]

He’s scored more goals in one season than biamou in his whole professional career

Oh for God sake, give it a rest. You’re like that itch I can’t get to halfway up my back.

 

[shmmeee]

Keeping Baka & Max over Jch has turned out to be a comical decision that has been more than proved it wasn’t

We didn’t “keep Baka and Max”, we signed Chaplin, who is currently in the play offs for the EPL, and made us a tidy profit to sign Godden, who got us promoted to the Championship.

Our style of play is never going to produce a 30 goal striker, Peterborough are set up to made strikers shine and sell them for profit, that’s their entire model. We won L1 through team unity and possession football, both of which Godden and Chaplin were better at. Some players fit well at some teams, there’s no blame or malice needed.

 

[NortonSkyBlue]

JCH is responsible for his time at Coventry City and if he put half as much effort in to his time here than he has done since he would have succeeded. In fact I credit Mark Robins removing an issue within the squad and I credit JCH with knuckling down and putting his career back on track.
I wonder if other teams are looking at JCH in the same way they looked at Ivan Toney? Unsure, needs to prove himself at a higher level....
Well done to JCH because although I saw him put in a fantastic performance against Sunderland when he could be bothered I also saw many more useless lacklustre efforts too. The penny dropped.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

JCH has proved it wasn’t an “excellent” decision

Really? Why? In every way it was. Jch has had his two best seasons in football and ccfc were champions and then stayed in the championship

 

[Irish Sky Blue]

Gyokores today looked like the player city fans think biamou is

I like Gyokores but yesterday he missed in a one on one situation with the keeper. Biamou would have been ripped apart for that. You are generally really positive about the manager, team and players but with Biamou you seem to be a zealot almost in the mold of one or two others on here, can never see any good in him. At the mention of his name, you can't wait to let people know how poor you think he is. I would expect such one eyed, dogmatic opinions from the usual characters on here but it is strange coming from someone who usually has a more balanced and positive outlook.
Biamou isn't the long term answer and may not be here next season. That doesn't mean that I can't acknowledge that he has been an important player for us achieving safety this season. I would suggest that he has been a much more influential player on the pitch than Walker. That is not me writing Walker off, hopefully he will come good next season, just that Buamou has been much more of a presence in games. He has certainly had a much better ratio of good games to bad and certainly more than the mythical 1 in 10 that you and others are fond of quoting. Perhaps the thing to consider would be what we would have done, who we would have played, if Biamou has left in the summer, when Godden or Walker or both were out for long spells this season. Baka would probably have had a lot more game time. If you think about and compare Baka's performance to Biamou's away at Wycombe, it tells you why Robins has gone with the latter for much of the season. Not saying you but I genuinely think that there are people on here who are so down on some players (and Biamou is one) that they hope that they fail (at least in their eyes 'fail') so that they can come on here and gloat a little more.
Oggy on CWR has been very good for the past two seasons, fair, objective and knowledgeable. He obviously rates Biamou, can see what he brings to the team. He akso doesn't just tow the manager's line, as he worked with Robins, as shown by his opinions on Da Costa.He gives an honest if tempered view. Without this being a dig at you, I would sooner listen to his view than the experts on here who have their own mean minded agenda.
When JCH was here, you could see the potential that he had, I just think he very rarely fulfilled it. He was frequently anonymous in games and his ability to fall over at the slightest touch would drive me up the wall. Hindsight is great, but I don't recall a huge outbreak of anger when he left.I certainly wasn't sad to see him go. I saw nothing in the 4 games I saw him play against us last season to make me wish that he was still part of our team. Would I have swapped him for Godden for example? No. However there is no arguing with his goal record these past two seasons.Thirty goals plus is a superb return. Oggy was asked about him yesterday and said that he was a good lad, no problem, in the dressing room but that he just didn't fit the way that Robins wanted to play. The proof of that was his mostly lacklustre performances for us. Would we have sooner kept JCH, changed our style of play to suit and still been in the third division? I don't think so.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I like Gyokores but yesterday he missed in a one on one situation with the keeper. Biamou would have been ripped apart for that. You are generally really positive about the manager, team and players but with Biamou you seem to be a zealot almost in the mold of one or two others on here, can never see any good in him. At the mention of his name, you can't wait to let people know how poor you think he is. I would expect such one eyed, dogmatic opinions from the usual characters on here but it is strange coming from someone who usually has a more balanced and positive outlook.
Biamou isn't the long term answer and may not be here next season. That doesn't mean that I can't acknowledge that he has been an important player for us achieving safety this season. I would suggest that he has been a much more influential player on the pitch than Walker. That is not me writing Walker off, hopefully he will come good next season, just that Buamou has been much more of a presence in games. He has certainly had a much better ratio of good games to bad and certainly more than the mythical 1 in 10 that you and others are fond of quoting. Perhaps the thing to consider would be what we would have done, who we would have played, if Biamou has left in the summer, when Godden or Walker or both were out for long spells this season. Baka would probably have had a lot more game time. If you think about and compare Baka's performance to Biamou's away at Wycombe, it tells you why Robins has gone with the latter for much of the season. Not saying you but I genuinely think that there are people on here who are so down on some players (and Biamou is one) that they hope that they fail (at least in their eyes 'fail') so that they can come on here and gloat a little more.
Oggy on CWR has been very good for the past two seasons, fair, objective and knowledgeable. He obviously rates Biamou, can see what he brings to the team. He akso doesn't just tow the manager's line, as he worked with Robins, as shown by his opinions on Da Costa.He gives an honest if tempered view. Without this being a dig at you, I would sooner listen to his view than the experts on here who have their own mean minded agenda.
When JCH was here, you could see the potential that he had, I just think he very rarely fulfilled it. He was frequently anonymous in games and his ability to fall over at the slightest touch would drive me up the wall. Hindsight is great, but I don't recall a huge outbreak of anger when he left.I certainly wasn't sad to see him go. I saw nothing in the 4 games I saw him play against us last season to make me wish that he was still part of our team. Would I have swapped him for Godden for example? No. However there is no arguing with his goal record these past two seasons.Thirty goals plus is a superb return. Oggy was asked about him yesterday and said that he was a good lad, no problem, in the dressing room but that he just didn't fit the way that Robins wanted to play. The proof of that was his mostly lacklustre performances for us. Would we have sooner kept JCH, changed our style of play to suit and still been in the third division? I don't think so.

Lovely balance

 

[covcity4life]

I’m outraged we got rid of Peter Vincenti after winning us promotion from league 2 but without doubt the biggest crime was ditching Roy O Donovan after he kept us in the championship

We went down the season we had o donovan

 

[covcity4life]

I am happy for jch. He played his part in league 2 promotion. I've said it many times but during last 5 year's we should havw good memories of players and wish them well

It worked out well for us as he didn't do it in league 1 for us be that down to himself or robins but we managed to get in godden eventually who most certainly did

Now we are both in championship. It's all good?

 

[Irish Sky Blue]

Not sure if I’m in the cult or not so I gave your post a like anyway just to be on the safe side.

I think 'the cult' are the same few people who delight in never seeing anything good in one of our own players, who will bring up his name at every available opportunity just to sneer both at him and anyone else who has a differing opinion.To them, Oggy must be one of 'the cult', presumably Robins too.

 

[covcity4life]

I still think it's crazy for anyone to dislike Biamou I really do. Not rate him for championship level is fine but not likeing a player who joined from non league and helped us to 2 promotions and survival despite his talent not being of the same level as others? Nah not having it. Got to love him

 

[Sick Boy]

I still think it's crazy for anyone to dislike Biamou I really do. Not rate him for championship level is fine but not likeing a player who joined from non league and helped us to 2 promotions and survival despite his talent not being of the same level as others? Nah not having it. Got to love him

Not rating him as anything other than a League 2 player has nothing to do with disliking him. I know wanting the best for the club is strange for some though.

 

[covcity4life]

Not rating him as anything other than a League 2 player has nothing to do with disliking him. I know wanting the best for the club is strange for some though.

You can tell the difference between not rating and disliking though

Bringing him up in every single thread is dislike. You are one of the chief haters and thus why no surprise you rushed to reply to me

Case closed lads.

 

[Evo1883]

I like Gyokores but yesterday he missed in a one on one situation with the keeper. Biamou would have been ripped apart for that. You are generally really positive about the manager, team and players but with Biamou you seem to be a zealot almost in the mold of one or two others on here, can never see any good in him. At the mention of his name, you can't wait to let people know how poor you think he is. I would expect such one eyed, dogmatic opinions from the usual characters on here but it is strange coming from someone who usually has a more balanced and positive outlook.
Biamou isn't the long term answer and may not be here next season. That doesn't mean that I can't acknowledge that he has been an important player for us achieving safety this season. I would suggest that he has been a much more influential player on the pitch than Walker. That is not me writing Walker off, hopefully he will come good next season, just that Buamou has been much more of a presence in games. He has certainly had a much better ratio of good games to bad and certainly more than the mythical 1 in 10 that you and others are fond of quoting. Perhaps the thing to consider would be what we would have done, who we would have played, if Biamou has left in the summer, when Godden or Walker or both were out for long spells this season. Baka would probably have had a lot more game time. If you think about and compare Baka's performance to Biamou's away at Wycombe, it tells you why Robins has gone with the latter for much of the season. Not saying you but I genuinely think that there are people on here who are so down on some players (and Biamou is one) that they hope that they fail (at least in their eyes 'fail') so that they can come on here and gloat a little more.
Oggy on CWR has been very good for the past two seasons, fair, objective and knowledgeable. He obviously rates Biamou, can see what he brings to the team. He akso doesn't just tow the manager's line, as he worked with Robins, as shown by his opinions on Da Costa.He gives an honest if tempered view. Without this being a dig at you, I would sooner listen to his view than the experts on here who have their own mean minded agenda.
When JCH was here, you could see the potential that he had, I just think he very rarely fulfilled it. He was frequently anonymous in games and his ability to fall over at the slightest touch would drive me up the wall. Hindsight is great, but I don't recall a huge outbreak of anger when he left.I certainly wasn't sad to see him go. I saw nothing in the 4 games I saw him play against us last season to make me wish that he was still part of our team. Would I have swapped him for Godden for example? No. However there is no arguing with his goal record these past two seasons.Thirty goals plus is a superb return. Oggy was asked about him yesterday and said that he was a good lad, no problem, in the dressing room but that he just didn't fit the way that Robins wanted to play. The proof of that was his mostly lacklustre performances for us. Would we have sooner kept JCH, changed our style of play to suit and still been in the third division? I don't think so.

I appreciate the effort , I just don't rate him at all .

I think it's a fairly balanced view .
I have felt the same about many players in the past too

I find his status amongst fans quite unusual , which is why it probably stands out more

I don't think ANY other striker in the history of this club has had so much leeway given to him , and frankly its bizarre .

The ability doesn't match the opinion


Ask @letsallsingtogether he will tell you I've never liked max as a player , I used to chew his ear off at half time every week
He probably disagrees with me but that's football

If it would make fans feel better, I won't discuss him anymore , everybody already knows how I feel and it won't change

 

[Sick Boy]

You can tell the difference between not rating and disliking though

Bringing him up in every single thread is dislike. You are one of the chief haters and thus why no surprise you rushed to reply to me

Case closed lads.

I have nothing against him personally, I’m interested in players’ abilities on the pitch; strange, i know.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I like Gyokores but yesterday he missed in a one on one situation with the keeper. Biamou would have been ripped apart for that. You are generally really positive about the manager, team and players but with Biamou you seem to be a zealot almost in the mold of one or two others on here, can never see any good in him. At the mention of his name, you can't wait to let people know how poor you think he is. I would expect such one eyed, dogmatic opinions from the usual characters on here but it is strange coming from someone who usually has a more balanced and positive outlook.
Biamou isn't the long term answer and may not be here next season. That doesn't mean that I can't acknowledge that he has been an important player for us achieving safety this season. I would suggest that he has been a much more influential player on the pitch than Walker. That is not me writing Walker off, hopefully he will come good next season, just that Buamou has been much more of a presence in games. He has certainly had a much better ratio of good games to bad and certainly more than the mythical 1 in 10 that you and others are fond of quoting. Perhaps the thing to consider would be what we would have done, who we would have played, if Biamou has left in the summer, when Godden or Walker or both were out for long spells this season. Baka would probably have had a lot more game time. If you think about and compare Baka's performance to Biamou's away at Wycombe, it tells you why Robins has gone with the latter for much of the season. Not saying you but I genuinely think that there are people on here who are so down on some players (and Biamou is one) that they hope that they fail (at least in their eyes 'fail') so that they can come on here and gloat a little more.
Oggy on CWR has been very good for the past two seasons, fair, objective and knowledgeable. He obviously rates Biamou, can see what he brings to the team. He akso doesn't just tow the manager's line, as he worked with Robins, as shown by his opinions on Da Costa.He gives an honest if tempered view. Without this being a dig at you, I would sooner listen to his view than the experts on here who have their own mean minded agenda.
When JCH was here, you could see the potential that he had, I just think he very rarely fulfilled it. He was frequently anonymous in games and his ability to fall over at the slightest touch would drive me up the wall. Hindsight is great, but I don't recall a huge outbreak of anger when he left.I certainly wasn't sad to see him go. I saw nothing in the 4 games I saw him play against us last season to make me wish that he was still part of our team. Would I have swapped him for Godden for example? No. However there is no arguing with his goal record these past two seasons.Thirty goals plus is a superb return. Oggy was asked about him yesterday and said that he was a good lad, no problem, in the dressing room but that he just didn't fit the way that Robins wanted to play. The proof of that was his mostly lacklustre performances for us. Would we have sooner kept JCH, changed our style of play to suit and still been in the third division? I don't think so.

The Irish Tolstoy strikes again

 

[TomRad85]

Let's be honest, if we signed a striker that had scored more than 50 goals in league one over the last 2 seasons who wasn't JCH most of you would be ripping your cocks off in excitement. Also if such a signing was suggested in the summer signing suggestions thread it would probably get written off as outside of out budget, which it probably is.
Letting him go was an error.

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[Evo1883]

We also didn't play a wing back system with clarke harris did we ? Would be interesting to see how he'd fit now

 

[SBT]

Me reading this thread after I made the mistake of celebrating us staying up:

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Let's be honest, if we signed a striker that had scored more than 50 goals in league one over the last 2 seasons who wasn't JCH most of you would be ripping your cocks off in excitement. Also if such a signing was suggested in the summer signing suggestions thread it would probably get written off as outside of out budget, which it probably is.
Letting him go was an error.

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How’s it been an error, has it been detrimental to us in letting him go?

 

[TomRad85]

How’s it been an error, has it been detrimental to us in letting him go?

Jesus Christ. Its a completely unrelated error. What's so hard to understand?

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[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Let's be honest, if we signed a striker that had scored more than 50 goals in league one over the last 2 seasons who wasn't JCH most of you would be ripping your cocks off in excitement. Also if such a signing was suggested in the summer signing suggestions thread it would probably get written off as outside of out budget, which it probably is.
Letting him go was an error.

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Not necessarily. Maybe he just fits in well at Peterboro? They focus heavily on attacking and playing to those strengths plus he's their main striker so he'll be enjoying that.

If he'd stayed here he probably wouldn't have done half as well being in a rotation policy and playing in a much more conservative fashion. So he wouldn't be happy and that'd be apparent on the rest of the squad. I expect he'd have scored quite a few of the chances Biamou didn't and make more of his attributes than Baka has but don't forget when he was here playing that role Biamou had to for long spells he spent much of his time falling over when the defender came to challenge.

I'd have liked to have seen a sell-on clause (as I would on any player under contract we let leave on a free) but if you have that you're not releasing the player from their contract so it may cost you at the time in loyalty bonuses and paying up the existing contract etc.

 

[TomRad85]

Chelsea letting De Bruyne go wasn't an error because they haven't done too bad since...

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[covcity4life]

Chelsea letting De Bruyne go wasn't an error because they haven't done too bad since...

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De bruyne didnt drop a level though did he? Went bundesliga then back to prem. Even if they won stuff they must rue that decision


Jch has scored in a lower league to where we are though so we are yet to know if it was a mistake. If he is like Ivan Toney in championship then we can wonder what if but right now he's jist a lower league goalscorer that is in our rear view mirror. Next seaosn will tell us more

Not the same.

 

[Evo1883]

De Bruyne was a winger , and was moved to central midfield by wolfsburg ?

Fantastic eye by the coaching staff and manager I must say

 

[TomRad85]

De bruyne didnt drop a level though did he? Went bundesliga then back to prem. Even if they won stuff they must rue that decision


Jch has scored in a lower league to where we are though so we are yet to know if it was a mistake. If he is like Ivan Toney in championship then we can wonder what if but right now he's jist a lower league goalscorer that is in our rear view mirror. Next seaosn will tell us more

Not the same.

The Bundesliga is obviously a level down from the Premiership in general. Outside of Bayern who i still consider to be the best club team in the world right now.

How much do you think you'd have to pay for JCH right now?
Same question for our strikers?

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