Ben Sheaf future (15 Viewers)

[Frostie]

At the risk of sounding stupid, had we already budgeted for Sheaf out of this seasons kitty or will it come out of next seasons? I only ask as it was already agreed this season

No way of knowing the financial aspects of the deal unfortunately unless something is leaked out but I believe the structure of the deal was at least partly so we hadn't used up all our budget for the season.

On a related note, a lot of people are getting hung up on the reported fee of £750k but it's worth remembering this was only being quoted at the very start when Nixon first stated our interest & that was when he believed it would be an immediate, permanent transfer.
By doing the loan deal as we did it's possible the subsequent fee has reduced (less time on contract, we've been paying his salary for a year etc.) plus I wouldn't be at all surprised if we'd paid a small fee to secure the loan anyway.

I still really struggle to see the downside of this deal. He's already a good player (yes, he makes mistakes), he has huge scope for improvement & it's, at worst, a modest fee with a probable return on investment.

Look at some of the players being released by our competitors this last week or so that they've literally wasted millions on;
Diedhiou £5.3m to Bristol City - released on a free
Baldock/Aluko approx. £11m for both to be absolutely awful at Reading & then released for nothing.
Flick through some of the released lists, the return on investment by & large is horrendous.

We're not going to get it right every time (especially shopping at Aldi whilst most are at Waitrose) but generally we're doing the right things - trust the process.

 

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[procdoc]

No way of knowing the financial aspects of the deal unfortunately unless something is leaked out but I believe the structure of the deal was at least partly so we hadn't used up all our budget for the season.

On a related note, a lot of people are getting hung up on the reported fee of £750k but it's worth remembering this was only being quoted at the very start when Nixon first stated our interest & that was when he believed it would be an immediate, permanent transfer.
By doing the loan deal as we did it's possible the subsequent fee has reduced (less time on contract, we've been paying his salary for a year etc.) plus I wouldn't be at all surprised if we'd paid a small fee to secure the loan anyway.

I still really struggle to see the downside of this deal. He's already a good player (yes, he makes mistakes), he has huge scope for improvement & it's, at worst, a modest fee with a probable return on investment.

Look at some of the players being released by our competitors this last week or so that they've literally wasted millions on;
Diedhiou £5.3m to Bristol City - released on a free
Baldock/Aluko approx. £11m for both to be absolutely awful at Reading & then released for nothing.
Flick through some of the released lists, the return on investment by & large is horrendous.

We're not going to get it right every time (especially shopping at Aldi whilst most are at Waitrose) but generally we're doing the right things - trust the process.

Excellently put. At least the flops like Kasta didn’t cost us millions in transfer fees

 

[Garryb80]

Kelly
Walsh
Hamer
Sheaf
James
Eccles


Ain’t happenings if sheaf has sighed as has been reported it’s out of James and Walsh knowing how we work Walsh will be the target

Surely this would be a replacement for allen

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

How do you know so much better days? Are you DB?

 

[better days]

How do you know so much better days? Are you DB?

Haha not DB I'm afraid
I just know a few people in the game
In the case of Ben Sheaf I just heard he'd told several people that he is now with us permanently

 

[Sick Boy]

I’ve been thinking about a midfield of sheaf, Walsh, Hamer, O’Hare...best young midfield in the championship?

Ps
I want us to sign James

If we had all of the above, that would be amazing.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Walsh or James ?

Nigel Pearson was the last manager to sign James for a fee

 

[Winny the Bish]

How do you know so much better days? Are you DB?

My guess is a players Dad/Brother/Relative

 

[Liquid Gold]

Have a look on the eflzone account on Twitter.

Some of our fans are proper twats.

“we knew he wasn’t good enough before we signed him last year so why are we bothering now” knobhead

 

[Somerset Sky Blue]

Haha not DB I'm afraid
I just know a few people in the game
In the case of Ben Sheaf I just heard he'd told several people that he is now with us permanently

I'm sure we've had a thread saying better days is DB...if not, maybe you are Mrs DB?

 

[Frostie]

Have a look on the eflzone account on Twitter.

Some of our fans are proper twats.

“we knew he wasn’t good enough before we signed him last year so why are we bothering now” knobhead

Couple more gems...

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

First it was Walker now it’s a player who doesn’t even play the same position who is being used as retribution for letting Biamou go...

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Sheaf is a good player, and exactly the sort of young player we should be buying to establish ourselves as a championship club. Young, got good stock, and got potential.

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

Can't wait to have fans back, I'm sure Sheaf will get a great reception in his first game at the Ricoh...

 

[cc84cov]

Wasn’t a massive sheaf fan in the end but if he’s signed I’m behind him

For the first 7 mins of the next game I see him at then it’s back to business as usual

 

[Deleted member 9744]

No way of knowing the financial aspects of the deal unfortunately unless something is leaked out but I believe the structure of the deal was at least partly so we hadn't used up all our budget for the season.

On a related note, a lot of people are getting hung up on the reported fee of £750k but it's worth remembering this was only being quoted at the very start when Nixon first stated our interest & that was when he believed it would be an immediate, permanent transfer.
By doing the loan deal as we did it's possible the subsequent fee has reduced (less time on contract, we've been paying his salary for a year etc.) plus I wouldn't be at all surprised if we'd paid a small fee to secure the loan anyway.

I still really struggle to see the downside of this deal. He's already a good player (yes, he makes mistakes), he has huge scope for improvement & it's, at worst, a modest fee with a probable return on investment.

Look at some of the players being released by our competitors this last week or so that they've literally wasted millions on;
Diedhiou £5.3m to Bristol City - released on a free
Baldock/Aluko approx. £11m for both to be absolutely awful at Reading & then released for nothing.
Flick through some of the released lists, the return on investment by & large is horrendous.

We're not going to get it right every time (especially shopping at Aldi whilst most are at Waitrose) but generally we're doing the right things - trust the process.

Excellent post.

I think Sheaf will be a good player for us in time.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Nii Lampety podcast getting in on the Sheaf hate now. “If James is a car Sheaf is a unicycle” and “MR should tell Sheaf what Jarni did was a good thing”.

Last time I listened one of them lost their shit about some very mild criticism of Bakayoko so it’s a bit rich.

Get em cancelled.

 

[better days]

I'm sure we've had a thread saying better days is DB...if not, maybe you are Mrs DB?

Generally speaking women don't waste their time gossiping on football forums Somerset

 

[CDK]

So he's permanent,plenty of promise and young to boot so in robins I trust as he's the guy thats there to be shot at.

 

[Somerset Sky Blue]

Generally speaking women don't waste their time gossiping on football forums Somerset

, Yes women usually have a bit more sense. Saying that, I'll bet you would be surprised, I reckon we have a number of female sky blue fans on here....

 

[Sick Boy]

Couple more gems...

Absolutely clueless.

 

[Frostie]

, Yes women usually have a bit more sense. Saying that, I'll bet you would be surprised, I reckon we have a number of female sky blue fans on here....

We definitely do. I can think of 1 or 2 very knowledgeable female posters on here.

 

[Liquid Gold]

We definitely do. I can think of 1 or 2 very knowledgeable female posters on here.

Shame there’s not more still.

 

[Somerset Sky Blue]

Shame there’s not more still.

We probably do have more, but perhaps they don't want to reveal whether they are male of female - doesn't really matter as long as people are sky blue fans!

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

Nii Lampety podcast getting in on the Sheaf hate now. “If James is a car Sheaf is a unicycle” and “MR should tell Sheaf what Jarni did was a good thing”.

Last time I listened one of them lost their shit about some very mild criticism of Bakayoko so it’s a bit rich.

Get em cancelled.

Their end of season pod had some very odd views on it. Lots of shout for Hyam as one of the PotS and a lot of Fadz criticism.

 

[shmmeee]

There are no girls on the internet. Everyone knows that.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Their end of season pod had some very odd views on it. Lots of shout for Hyam as one of the PotS and a lot of Fadz criticism.

Arseholes. They don’t like it if you have a different view on Twitter and get pissy at you.

 

[TM8792]

I sincerely hope these rumours aren’t true. I’d take him on a free as backup, but 750k seems like a colossal waste of money.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I sincerely hope these rumours aren’t true. I’d take him on a free as backup, but 750k seems like a colossal waste of money.

Phenomenal value for me

 

[Frostie]

 

[Sick Boy]

Can't be true, I read on here Robins was getting us out of the deal??!

 

[Skybluedownunder]

Can't be true, I read on here Robins was getting us out of the deal??!

I honestly hope we can get out of this deal but doubt we will if what Nixon says is true which would make sense. Sheaf unfortunately just isn’t near our starting 11 so to spend $750k on someone to sit on the bench all season is wasteful when that’s the price we’d pay for a starting 11 player


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[Deity]

I honestly hope we can get out of this deal but doubt we will if what Nixon says is true which would make sense. Sheaf unfortunately just isn’t near our starting 11 so to spend $750k on someone to sit on the bench all season is wasteful when that’s the price we’d pay for a starting 11 player


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I understand your point but it’s just the ups and downs of transfers. If Hamer moves on for £5m + we will have invested very wisely in him, but maybe less wisely in Sheaf ( hopefully he will be much better next season ) .

We have been fishing in a pond of gambles. Players that other clubs don’t want, unknown foreign players, or young players with potential.

 

[shmmeee]

I honestly hope we can get out of this deal but doubt we will if what Nixon says is true which would make sense. Sheaf unfortunately just isn’t near our starting 11 so to spend $750k on someone to sit on the bench all season is wasteful when that’s the price we’d pay for a starting 11 player


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Hes literally played in almost every game he’s been fit you loon. “Not in our starting eleven”

 

[Northeast sky blue]

I'm a fan of Sheaf, he just needs to cut out the silly mistakes and I believe he'll be a good signing even at 750k