Bugsy
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No what is a left wing authoritarian I mean
Someone who knows football and is a top shagger is what I took from it
Evo1883
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BTW my actual results were almost in the middle but slightly in left wing authoritarian.
But looking it up , I can't really find much about it .
Hence my question .
I will admit there were a couple of questions I didn't really understand , part of the reason for that is being a thick c**t from tile hill .
But looking it up , I can't really find much about it .
Hence my question .
I will admit there were a couple of questions I didn't really understand , part of the reason for that is being a thick c**t from tile hill .
skybluetony176
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shmmeee
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So there’s several axis you can try and measure political alignment on, but the most common and the one used here is economic on the left/right axis (left being generally government should get involved in the economy and right they shouldn’t), and how liberal or authoritarian you are socially on the up/down axis.
“authoritarian” is a funny term and different political scientists call it different things like “small c conservative” or “socially conservative” or “communitarian” because authoritarian sounds bad. Basically it’s the idea that the needs of the group outweigh the needs of the individual. You’re more likely to be for things like respect for authority, traditional values, community, country. “Faith and flag” it’s sometimes called.
Rationally economic liberalism (right wing) goes best with social liberalism, and economic control (left wing) goes best with social control (authoritarianism), but people being people we seem to have ended up with a right wing authoritarian and a liberal left party despite most people being left wing authoritarians.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I know it's hardly a massive sample and I think some of the questions felt a bit leading but it does seem odd that the results of our little data set don't put anyone, even those more right wing, anywhere near most of the right-wing parties. Even Grendel, who so far has been a bit of an outlier, isn't near the likes of the Tories.
Evo1883
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So there’s several axis you can try and measure political alignment on, but the most common and the one used here is economic on the left/right axis (left being generally government should get involved in the economy and right they shouldn’t), and how liberal or authoritarian you are socially on the up/down axis.
“authoritarian” is a funny term and different political scientists call it different things like “small c conservative” or “socially conservative” or “communitarian” because authoritarian sounds bad. Basically it’s the idea that the needs of the group outweigh the needs of the individual. You’re more likely to be for things like respect for authority, traditional values, community, country. “Faith and flag” it’s sometimes called.
Rationally economic liberalism (right wing) goes best with social liberalism, and economic control (left wing) goes best with social control (authoritarianism), but people being people we seem to have ended up with a right wing authoritarian and a liberal left party despite most people being left wing authoritarians.
Cheers mate
TomRad85
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I'd like to know how they decided to place the parties on there as it looks a little bit like bullshit.
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Evo1883
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Surely most mainstream political parties would be near the centre dot ?
Centre left and centre right ?
TomRad85
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I'm definitely more to the right than your average lib dem. Don't need a test to tell me that. So yehhh, it's bollocks.
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Grendel
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What a hideous thought
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The mapping of the parties is bollocks but then I believe the site has a left wing agenda, which is portrayed in its blogs. My guess is that the dots are based upon an interpretation, if any, of manifestos rather than individual polling.
Grendel
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The scoring is nonsense and tries to make out you have to be Attila the Hun to vote Tory - the reality is in voting patterns over the last 4 decades
TomRad85
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Pretty much what I thought tbh. Still mildly interesting though.
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According to some here that's exactly the case.
shmmeee
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It’s heavily skewed to US politics I believe so does push everyone left. I’m not at all convinced by their placements of political parties either. Fun though.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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That's kind of what I was getting at. No way can those party political dots be representative given where everyone is turning up and that for so many people to be that far into the bottom left quadrant they need to reassess what is centrist. A lot of us a further left than even the most left wing of parties.
If of course it's done against a more historical setting then it shows people are migrating to the left ideologically. For example you'd find most modern right wingers views on things like sexuality, religion, gender, race etc to be very liberal compared to a generation ago.
Philosoraptor
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Pass me that tree to hug.
Terry_dactyl
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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skybluetony176
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Everyone is a socialist, most just don’t realise it. My advice. Stop reading headlines and start reading manifestos.
TomRad85
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Not really the compass is rubbish and all its really achieved, if anything, is make the forum righties look more balanced than the forum lefties (no real surprise there.)
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Grendel
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Basically I'm stalin
You are in the top right?
skybluetony176
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Ha ha ha. Yeah, more balanced. There was two ways to answer those questions. Like you’re a complete c**t or compassionately. Showing compassion seems to put you in the bottom left.
TomRad85
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Grendel
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Strange as The Tonester voted UKIP and admits to regularly voting Tory. Did he confuse them with the Socialist Revolutionary Party