European championships 2020 thread (7 Viewers)

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Bellingham just has to play. Him and Foden are both generational talents.

I haven’t seen enough of Bellingham to comment on him but Foden is a special player and hopefully the next England manager will get the best out of him as this one won’t.

 

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[Sick Boy]

Really can't wait for this - watching football in the boiling heat drinking lager all day - being self-employed i'm fucked work wise.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I haven’t seen enough of Bellingham to comment on him but Foden is a special player and hopefully the next England manager will get the best out of him as this one won’t.

Bellingham has had a great season at Dortmund at only 17. I dont think there are many players in the world his age holding down a consistent first team spot at a top level team.

 

[Evo1883]

Bellingham looks to me in the Gerrard mould ... he's a unique midfielder in the squad there isn't another like him

 

[Evo1883]

Looking at the england squad compared to France , I'm not quite sure it's as strong as the media would have you believe .
Il be very surprised if we win the tournament

 

[Sick Boy]

Looking at the england squad compared to France , I'm not quite sure it's as strong as the media would have you believe .
Il be very surprised if we win the tournament

Apart from the bookies who’s giving England a serious chance?

 

[CJ_covblaze]

I'm glad his missed out, Foden and Grealish are x10 better than he'll ever be.

Feel similar. He’s a very good player that I want to do well but others are more deserving of the place.

 

[Frostie]

Looking at the england squad compared to France , I'm not quite sure it's as strong as the media would have you believe .
Il be very surprised if we win the tournament

Spot on. I'm not a Southgate fan & he'll get crucified if he plays 2 x CDM's but, he almost has to in order to protect the defence which is so, so weak.
People think it's just throw the best players on the pitch & they will automatically win it all like it's FUT. Never going to happen.

 

[Evo1883]

Apart from the bookies who’s giving England a serious chance?

Talksport reckon England are the second coming of Brazil 1970 , lineker always gushing over our "talent"
But seriously
There's a fair few people that believe England can win this.

For starters we get through the group we play either france or Portugal (can't see Germany going through that group )

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Talksport reckon England are the second coming of Brazil 1970 , lineker always gushing over our "talent"
But seriously
There's a fair few people that believe England can win this.

For starters we get through the group we play either france or Portugal (can't see Germany going through that group )

I think we could beat Portugal in all honesty. It would be close but there’s a chance

 

[Evo1883]

I think we could beat Portugal in all honesty. It would be close but there’s a chance

There's a chance ofcourse , on our day , as at any point in history , we can beat anybody .

My worry is teams with attacking talent will run us ragged at the back , you saw it in the last couple years whenever we play a side that attacks well we struggle

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

I think that England have the basis of a good team with a couple of gaps but have a third rate manager, even if they fail he will survive

 

[Evo1883]

I think that England have the basis of a good team with a couple of gaps but have a third rate manager, even if they fail he will survive

Besides our forwards, I find England's squad to be pretty average

 

[Ccfcisparks]

There's a chance ofcourse , on our day , as at any point in history , we can beat anybody .

My worry is teams with attacking talent will run us ragged at the back , you saw it in the last couple years whenever we play a side that attacks well we struggle

Yeah I agree with that, thats why I would have been tempted to take AWB as he is the best defensively out of all the RB.

 

[Deleted member 11652]

Spot on. I'm not a Southgate fan & he'll get crucified if he plays 2 x CDM's but, he almost has to in order to protect the defence which is so, so weak.
People think it's just throw the best players on the pitch & they will automatically win it all like it's FUT. Never going to happen.

I don’t think it’s that at all. But playing 5 at the back with Rice and Phillips / Henderson is embarrassing. England’s results have been poor it’s not like what he’s doing has even worked against average sides.

Do you honestly think a back 5 and 2 cdm’s gives a better chance of winning than say 4 at the back with Rice holding and Mount and Grealish in front of him? That’s the opposite extreme.

Southgate is a negative manager and a poor one at that. He isn’t the man to get the best out of them.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Besides our forwards, I find England's squad to be pretty average

Chilwell,Stones and Walker are as good as anything out there especially for their club sides.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

I don’t think it’s that at all. But playing 5 at the back with Rice and Phillips / Henderson is embarrassing. England’s results have been poor it’s not like what he’s doing has even worked against average sides.

Do you honestly think a back 5 and 2 cdm’s gives a better chance of winning than say 4 at the back with Rice holding and Mount and Grealish in front of him? That’s the opposite extreme.

Southgate is a negative manager and a poor one at that. He isn’t the man to get the best out of them.

Do you think England would win it with one of the top managers like Pep or Klopp? I think Southgate would struggle to get a premier league job if he got sacked.

 

[Evo1883]

Do you think England would win it with one of the top managers like Pep or Klopp? I think Southgate would struggle to get a premier league job if he got sacked.

We'd have a better chance

 

[Frostie]

I don’t think it’s that at all. But playing 5 at the back with Rice and Phillips / Henderson is embarrassing. England’s results have been poor it’s not like what he’s doing has even worked against average sides.

Do you honestly think a back 5 and 2 cdm’s gives a better chance of winning than say 4 at the back with Rice holding and Mount and Grealish in front of him? That’s the opposite extreme.

Southgate is a negative manager and a poor one at that. He isn’t the man to get the best out of them.

We've had this debate with City earlier in the season - if you play it properly it's more of a back 3 rather than a back 5.

That said, no I absolutely wouldn't want us to play that way anyway &, as I keep saying, I'm no Southgate fan but he's going to get crucified regardless I feel.

My preference would be something like this but it's asking a lot of Bellingham so wouldn't be at all surprised if he went with Phillips or Henderson there.
Yes Mount obviously is an incredible talent who can pretty much do it all so can help out defensively but I think best use is allow him to do his pressing high up the pitch, forcing mistakes, alleviating danger on our backline.




My issue is more when you see people suggesting teams like this & saying "
Look how good we are, we'd to win it all if not for Southgate"

On paper it's not that much different but in reality, it's much too free form & would get torn apart imo.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

We've had this debate with City earlier in the season - if you play it properly it's more of a back 3 rather than a back 5.

That said, no I absolutely wouldn't want us to play that way anyway &, as I keep saying, I'm no Southgate fan but he's going to get crucified regardless I feel.

My preference would be something like this but it's asking a lot of Bellingham so wouldn't be at all surprised if he went with Phillips or Henderson there.
Yes Mount obviously is an incredible talent who can pretty much do it all so can help out defensively but I think best use is allow him to do his pressing high up the pitch, forcing mistakes, alleviating danger on our backline.

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My issue is more when you see people suggesting teams like this & saying "
Look how good we are, we'd to win it all if not for Southgate"

On paper it's not that much different but in reality, it's much too free form & would get torn apart imo.

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I'd always start James over TAA, regardless of opposition. I think he's stronger defensively and still decent going forward.

Get Pickford out too, much rather D.Henderson starts over him

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

I'd always start James over TAA, regardless of opposition. I think he's stronger defensively and still decent going forward.

Get Pickford out too, much rather D.Henderson starts over him

Pickford is erratic and prone to a calamity, Henderson seems more steady, Southgate loves Pickford because he can kick the ball well doesn’t seem to matter he can’t save it.

 

[Frostie]

I'd always start James over TAA, regardless of opposition. I think he's stronger defensively and still decent going forward.

Get Pickford out too, much rather D.Henderson starts over him

Totally agree on TAA.

I don't think Pickford is that bad & Henderson is poor with his feet which rules him out.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Totally agree on TAA.

I don't think Pickford is that bad & Henderson is poor with his feet which rules him out.

I would go for a goalie that saves it better than kicks it every time.

 

[Tommo1993]

Might stick a tenner on the fro- - I mean France

 

[Frostie]

I would go for a goalie that saves it better than kicks it every time.

So Pickford it is

 

[Hutch11]

Pickford is far and away our best keeper, never put a foot wrong for England and has been great for Everton these last few weeks
He's not in the top 10 keepers in the world but he's the best we have

 

[David O'Day]

Feel similar. He’s a very good player that I want to do well but others are more deserving of the place.

Out the 3/4 who play similar roles he's the weakest. That us not saying he is a bad player just Foden/Grealish/Mount are better

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Really can't wait for this - watching football in the boiling heat drinking lager all day - being self-employed i'm fucked work wise.

I'm genuinely planning my delayed Italy trip (thanks covid) for June hopefully.

 

[Sick Boy]

I'm genuinely planning my delayed Italy trip (thanks covid) for June hopefully.

Nice! Where are you planning on going?

 

[Saddlebrains]

Is it just me that thinks we'll do fuck all because the defence is shite?

 

[Deleted member 11652]

Is it just me that thinks we'll do fuck all because the defence is shite?

We could potentially have a back 4 of 2 players from each of the two championship league finalists with 2 Europa league finalists in reserve. We’ll do fuck all because our manager is league one standard

 

[Saddlebrains]

Fair response

But its Hardly Neville Ferdinand Terry Cole is it?

And we did fuck all even with them

 

[Deleted member 11652]

Fair response

But its Hardly Neville Ferdinand Terry Cole is it?

And we did fuck all even with them

Not even close is it.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Nice! Where are you planning on going?

I really want to go back to Sestri Levante, but might just settle on Lago di Garda.

 

[CJ_covblaze]

Talksport reckon England are the second coming of Brazil 1970 , lineker always gushing over our "talent"
But seriously
There's a fair few people that believe England can win this.

For starters we get through the group we play either france or Portugal (can't see Germany going through that group )

It’s a difficult one to call in that group. Hungary could be difficult to beat. However if Germany do win in that game it probably won’t matter what they do against the other two sides as that will probably be enough for them to qualify.

If we come second we will play second place in the Spain, Sweden, Poland, Slovakia group.