chiefdave
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Has Walton ever said a ref has made a mistake? Absolute waste of time having him on.
European championships 2020 thread (20 Viewers)
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David O'Day
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It's not who said it, it's the fact that it is the current directives on the application of the laws of the game. You can argue that they are wrong and need to be changed but in 2021 as per the UEFA directive that was a red card.
Grendel
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You can argue against it as Walton gives a biased view. The UEFA directive on Sterling was it was a clear penalty yet I can’t recall you saying much on that
COV
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but if that’s a red card why wasn’t stamping on sterling’s foot a foul, and therefore a penalty?
Liquid Gold
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Another bitching match for the site's children.
Can we have a soft play board?
Can we have a soft play board?
Grendel
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Ironic given you seem to only want to go on about Wales how you can’t stand them and hate Danny Murphy
COV
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I can see why it was a red he almost killed him fucking horrific , interesting that walton said uefa explained this was a red card incident before this exact matchit's a fucking yellow , waltons a massive blurt View attachment 20505
I don’t understand either of your last 2 posts
COV
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then why did he get a red card
The question is not whether it should be a red card, the answer to that question is no. Zero intent and not serious enough imho.
The question is whether it was a red card with today’s laws in place, the answer to that question is yes.
COV
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“endangering an opponent”
Intent is not relevant anymore, anything like that is gonna get a straight red these days whether you like it or not.
Evo1883
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So to sum up , kicking a ball and not unnaturally swerving your leg away from an opponent is now a red card offence .
Sorry I'm lost and so is the game if this is the way
There has to be some common sense , people on here were saying the tackle earlier was horrific , it definitely wasn't, the only thing horrific was the players reaction which partly swayed the refs decision ...even though it was more fake than the noises my missus made 15 minutes ago
COV
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you don’t seem to be able to understand- they are rules, there is no leeway for referees to apply common sense.
Evo1883
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I understand , there is no physical way a player can manoeuvre his leg away from that in the video , all he's done is kick the ball ... let's also not make out mistakes aren't made by referees even with the use of VAR , it was shambolic at times last season
Even the officials have swayed from the rules and made bizarre decisions
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Sky Blue Pete
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The picture shows not where his impact started. It was higher up his leg. Could easily have had a broken ankle. Red for me
Ccfcisparks
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Yeah 100% red for me. I’m sure if it was committed on a Cov player most would say the same.
Evo1883
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Well he got sent off anyway ...
But it started exactly on the picture as I've just rewatched and paused
chiefdave
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Which raises two issues. Firstly, why, in an era of VAR, have other similar tackles in this tournament not resulted in red cards.
Secondly, if we continue down this path its basically going to become a non-contact sports. Super slow-mo to see if there's a the slightest bit of contact for a penalty. Sending off any player who mistimes a tackles and makes contact with another player.
If we're going that way not sure it will maintain my interest.
Liquid Gold
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Surely you can tell the difference between stepping on a toe when trying to get across the player and going over the top of the ball studs up and going straight into the ankle at full speed.
Evo1883
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He didn't go over the ball at all , his foot was In a natural position to make the tackle , the ball was pushed forward and he stood on the italian players foot with his toe reaching his shin .
Robertson also stood on raheems foot , therefore its a penalty
COV
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I am not disagreeing with you. Intent has to be taken into account.
Just saying that with the rules as they are it was a straight red
Evo1883
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David O'Day
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This is the bit I don't get. The tackle was nothing at all like anything that happened to Sterling.
One is accidentally bringing your foot down on someones toe and the is other is diving in out of control and connecting studs first into a players leg.
Red card all day
COV
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yes but once again you miss the point completely. The ball could be anywhere, it is irrelevant. The rule is ‘endangering an opponent’, and if the ref thinks that’s the case then he is obliged to give a red card.
where it’s a mockery is where the German guy booted the Portugal player full in the face but because it wasn’t deliberate he didn’t get a card at all.
not saying it’s right, but it is what it is.
stupot07
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It wasn't over the ball at all. The Italian player was just too quick. Late, yes. Intent or reckless, no
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oscillatewildly
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Nope. Because there is no difference. There was no intent in either yet the contacts were the same. So why two entirely different outcomes?
David O'Day
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I can see why it was a red he almost killed him fucking horrific , interesting that walton said uefa explained this was a red card incident before this exact match
Why show a picture doesn't show where he actually made contact with the player?
Evo1883
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That's exactly where it was made , there's another picture at a different angle , it's the same bloody place
David O'Day
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But they weren't the same? That's flat out nonsense.
Ampadu hit the player above the ankle. Sterling had his toe stood on.
Evo1883
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Which according to the rules is a foul , it was also the side of his foot