Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (210 Viewers)
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Evo1883
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So he's miles off then ?
As there were 40,000 hospitalisations at one point in January
Evo1883
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He's a doctor , we must believe every word .... as we are constantly told
Nick
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Yet he is saying he has been called into work after as it's so busy and hospitals are like they were in the Winter which is why lockdown shouldn't be lifted.
Yet the stats say something different.
Skybluefaz
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Who is telling us that? Scrutinise everything if you can. I'm so tired of this shit now though I can barely bring myself to look at the news stories and that.
Nick
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The media don't want lockdown to end.
It has been obvious for months, they have a Dr clearly lying. You have that other bellend on the ITV scaremongering as well.
Nick
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Clear scare mongering.
The stats say this Dr is chatting shit:
Evo1883
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Winter 2019 ?
That ended in February 2020 .
Covid came about in March 2020 or am I missing something
OK after rewatching he's saying hospitals are as busy in June as they were in winter 2019 .
Fair enough
However the stats are there to see in terms of ICU and admissions .
I think you misunderstood his point nick in all honesty which is easily done based on that interview
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Skybluefaz
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I don't watch either of them tbh. I'll take your word for it.
Ian1779
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Prime Minister does it all the time - you don’t bat an eyelid.
Nick
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Don't I?
Think you mistake me for somebody else. Read through about my views on MPs, regardless of their party.
Ian1779
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But they are generic comments - not specific. No a Dr shouldn’t lie on TV to people, but neither should the PM, or the Health Secretary or anyone else in a position of responsibility.
Are you more outraged this time because of the potential personal impact? Not having a dig but so many people have just ignored the lies, but when it impacts them personally then the outrage arrives.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Well this country becoming more like America is most of the problem
chiefdave
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Was he specifically talking about covid hospitalisations?
‘A sustained threat to patient safety’: Hospitals across the country swamped by record numbers in A&E
Exclusive: NHS staff reveal hospitals and ambulance services are being overwhelmed by a numbers of patients
www.independent.co.uk
I tried today to get an appointment as I had to go and collect some paperwork from the surgery (seems they haven't heard of the post office or email) and was told there's still no face to face appointments. You have to ring in the morning to request a phone appointment but its only same day and one issue per call. People on our my local Facebook group have reported being in a phone queue for more than 4 hours only to finally get through and be told there's no more appointments, try again tomorrow.
Skybluefaz
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Ambiguous fucking language tbf. 'levels of activity at A and E' I think the line was. Could mean all sorts. Don't look for any key covid information out of a conversation between Dr Ranj and Jermaine Jenas is probably the lesson here.Was he specifically talking about covid hospitalisations?
‘A sustained threat to patient safety’: Hospitals across the country swamped by record numbers in A&E
Exclusive: NHS staff reveal hospitals and ambulance services are being overwhelmed by a numbers of patients
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Sky Blue Pete
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Genuinely if that’s the service you are getting move to a proper doctors. Family had great service from Gp and hospital over the last month or soWas he specifically talking about covid hospitalisations?
Edit: Its not really a great mystery why people are turning up at A&E, its the only way you can get to see a doctor. I have a few, hopefully minor, ongoing health issues, which were being dealt with by my local surgery pre-covid, but I haven't been able to see a doctor for 18 months.‘A sustained threat to patient safety’: Hospitals across the country swamped by record numbers in A&E
Exclusive: NHS staff reveal hospitals and ambulance services are being overwhelmed by a numbers of patients
I tried today to get an appointment as I had to go and collect some paperwork from the surgery (seems they haven't heard of the post office or email) and was told there's still no face to face appointments. You have to ring in the morning to request a phone appointment but its only same day and one issue per call. People on our my local Facebook group have reported being in a phone queue for more than 4 hours only to finally get through and be told there's no more appointments, try again tomorrow.
Nick
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It's pretty common.
I have to ring up at 8, on hold 2 hours last home for a 3 minute phone call.
skybluetony176
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Government giving out mix messages already over July 19th “freedom day”. They sent Kwasi out on the media rounds this morning with a message of caution, moment Boris gets asked about it he’s positive. Not sure what’s changed in the figures from this morning for the message to change.
On a separate note how long before one of the prominent right wing snowflakes start quoting the freedom speech from Braveheart?
On a separate note how long before one of the prominent right wing snowflakes start quoting the freedom speech from Braveheart?
Brighton Sky Blue
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I think it’s more to dampen expectations from some quarters that COVID will be completely forgotten on that date and that masks/testing will disappear. In practice, I think it means that businesses will be allowed full capacity across the board but some other precautions will linger on.
fernandopartridge
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There are people presenting at hospitals with other illnesses, as you might point out, covid isn't the only illness
Nick
Administrator
Open the doctors surgeries up then.
Sky Blue Pete
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I’m not sure it’s too common
I order my repeat prescription at styvechale pharmacy and collect it from a machine
My daughter has had 2 Gp appointments and blood tests
My wife has had a consultant appointment and follow up Gp on the phone
My sister had a breast cancer diagnosis and has a date early July for her radiotherapy
Maybe it’s mixed but the service I’ve received has been phenomenal
baldy
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That ‘within 28 days‘ thing is bollocks too...you could get tested for negative the first day of the month,get run over by a bus a few weeks after,then be shown as having corona aftetwards
robbiekeane
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Yes you could. It’s a statistical proxy and one that obviously has an extremely high correlation with deaths caused by covid. It’s quicker and it’s manageable and it’s not even worth talking about.
fatso
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Perhaps if he came up with a pretty coloured graph we would all believe it.
shmmeee
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You can also die of COVID having never had a test or having one more than 28 days ago.
Seriously mate. If you are still thinking the pandemic is a conspiracy after this it’s probably best to accept media beyond CBeebies isn’t good for you.
Brighton Sky Blue
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It is also a shift away from ‘COVID mentioned on death certificate’ which adds another 25k to the death toll.
Saddlebrains
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Well you'd think so. But there's still a hell of a lot of weirdos who want lockdown out there
They wind me right up. It's got nothing to do with Covid (them wanting lockdown). It's to do with the comfort of WFH, not having to interact with anyone etc. Cant stand these people