European championships 2020 thread (31 Viewers)

[COV]

I was pretty shocked reading though here this morning. I've got a sore head from celebrating us winning at the pub. Being able to celebrate wins doesn't come often enough, take them.

Me too, you’d think we’d lost and been eliminated, not coasted through in a boring game in which we never looked in any danger

 

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[cc84cov]

I'd prefer to avoid France, Mbappe and Griezman running behind our backline sends shivers down my spine.

I'd obviously want Hungary but as that's unlikely I'd take Germany over Portugal.

England v Germany in the Euros at Wembley. Stuff of dreams.

Until it goes to pens ?

 

[Liquid Gold]

Until it goes to pens ?

Imagine the buzz if we beat them though. That's why you look forward to these things for 4 years.

 

[COV]

Imagine the buzz if we beat them though. That's why you look forward to these things for 4 years.

Penalties are more about bottle than ability, I think we’re ok in that dept nowadays

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Luke shaw hatrick you heard it here first
From me and David O’D

Tbh Shaw is our best LB and should be starting, to say he's shit is just ridiculous......think Chillwell is overrated.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Ignoring the more free scoring Germans of 2014 and French of 2018. Our defence is not world class, our forward line is if not close. What do we do if we concede first and we’ve set up to do tiki taka in our box?

Germany battered Portugal in the group stages and followed it up with a draw to Ghana and a 1-0 win over the USA.

Germany and France were favourites for both of those World Cups having come very close to winning major trophies previously and we’re not at that level, yet.

We’ve got a good team, and I fancy us to up our game now, but I’m not going to judge Southgate over qualifiers, friendlies and the group stage. It’s all about the knockout stages.

Even Juergen Klinsmann said ‘you’ve got 4 points after two Group games, it’s fine’.

 

[David O'Day]

Luke shaw hatrick you heard it here first
From me and David O’D

rent free

 

[David O'Day]

Tbh Shaw is our best LB and should be starting, to say he's shit is just ridiculous......think Chillwell is overrated.

exactly

 

[COV]

Germany battered Portugal in the group stages and followed it up with a draw to Ghana and a 1-0 win over the USA.

Germany and France were favourites for both of those World Cups having come very close to winning major trophies previously and we’re not at that level, yet.

We’ve got a good team, and I fancy us to up our game now, but I’m not going to judge Southgate over qualifiers, friendlies and the group stage. It’s all about the knockout stages.

Even Juergen Klinsmann said ‘you’ve got 4 points after two Group games, it’s fine’.

Exactly. There has never been a free scoring England team who’d thrash decent teams on a regular basis, yet now we’re absolutely destroying Southgate for winning the group because we didn’t “entertain”- it’s a joke

 

[cc84cov]

Tbh Shaw is our best LB and should be starting, to say he's shit is just ridiculous......think Chillwell is overrated.

Not according to josè or Southgate for that matter as when it comes down to it he goes for trippier a right back playing on the left it’s clear he don’t trust either of his left backs when it comes to it

 

[COV]

Not according to josè or Southgate for that matter as when it comes down to it he goes for trippier a right back playing on the left it’s clear he don’t trust either of his left backs when it comes to it

In amongst all the silliness you do have a point.

Who are these amazing players we are going to unleash on a terrified Europe to start “entertaining?” Kane has been rubbish, Sterling seems to get slated, the defence have not conceded a goal but never give you 100% confidence, where is this cavalcade of astonishing talent that is apparently going to o allow us to be playing all & sundry off the pitch?

People are clueless if they think we’re up there with the French or Italians, we have to find a way to play them- and going by what we’ve seen that’s a fast counter, and you’re not going to be able to play that v Croatia, Scotland or Czech Republic. We haven’t impressed but we haven’t needed to, all the criticism is jaw-droppingly stupid

 

[Liquid Gold]

In amongst all the silliness you do have a point.

Who are these amazing players we are going to unleash on a terrified Europe to start “entertaining?” Kane has been rubbish, Sterling seems to get slated, the defence have not conceded a goal but never give you 100% confidence, where is this cavalcade of astonishing talent that is apparently going to o allow us to be playing all & sundry off the pitch?

People are clueless if they think we’re up there with the French or Italians, we have to find a way to play them- and going by what we’ve seen that’s a fast counter, and you’re not going to be able to play that v Croatia, Scotland or Czech Republic. We haven’t impressed but we haven’t needed to, all the criticism is jaw-droppingly stupid

I think we're more talented than Italy and they're playing the right way. The end result so far is that we've both topped our groups though.

This is where the real tournament starts and it will show if Italy have got it right or we have got it right.

 

[hill83]

I was pretty shocked reading though here this morning. I've got a sore head from celebrating us winning at the pub. Being able to celebrate wins doesn't come often enough, take them.

You’ve been on this forum before right?

 

[Liquid Gold]

You’ve been on this forum before right?

I was fuming after Scotland and will reserve the right to say we were shite if we get knocked out next round but I just don't get not enjoying a win.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

In 2018 France won 2-1, won 1-0 and drew 0-0 in the group stages. And people complained about Deschamps tactics. We don’t have their players but you’re making things up again

A question- have you ever enjoyed watching England? If so which England team in particular?

The expectations are stupid. We think we’ve got all these amazing players, so much ability- well we did in 2004 and 2006 too- when it comes down to it we don’t have players who compete at the very highest level, and never have since 1966.

So constantly berating the manager for not doing things that nobody else has ever done and which history shows to be impossible- what’s the point? He needs to get as far in the tournament as possible, and setting out to batter Scotland 5-0 just to keep the keyboard experts happy, why should he

I have never been as bored watching England as I have been under Southgate. The most fun watching was qualifying under Capello before he lost the plot at the finals.

 

[Liquid Gold]

I have never been as bored watching England as I have been under Southgate. The most fun watching was qualifying under Capello before he lost the plot at the finals.

Roy Hodgson ball was 10 times worse than this surely?

Can you remember after we went 2-1 down against Iceland and offered absolutely nothing or letting Italy and Uruguay walk through us, not turning up against Costa Rica. The tedium of England 1-1 Russia or England 0-0 Slovakia.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Roy Hodgson ball was 10 times worse than this surely?

Can you remember after we went 2-1 down against Iceland and offered absolutely nothing or letting Italy and Uruguay walk through us, not turning up against Costa Rica. The tedium of England 1-1 Russia or England 0-0 Slovakia.

It was bad but slightly less mind numbing.

 

[Torquay Sky Blue]

It's great to see the likes of Sako and Grealish running with the ball before they get the life coached out of them

 

[COV]

It was bad but slightly less mind numbing.

So you’d rather watch us lose to Iceland than win the group

Righto

 

[baldy]

Have you noticed though,no team as yet have been full on attacking towards England? All 3 teams faced so far have been quite dour in their approach....will be interesting to see how England play when faced with,say,Italy with their fast (er) footy

 

[Liquid Gold]

It was bad but slightly less mind numbing.

Sorry but that is absolute bollocks. I dare you to watch those games again.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

So you’d rather watch us lose to Iceland than win the group

Righto

I never said that, clearly. Is it actually illegal now to say that Southgate’s England are boring to watch? I didn’t realise teams that dare play attacking football or simply venture out of their own penalty area can’t win titles

 

[baldy]

So you’d rather watch us lose to Iceland than win the group

Righto

I would haha

 

[COV]

Sorry but that is absolute bollocks. I dare you to watch those games again.

It’s embarrassing tbh

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Sorry but that is absolute bollocks. I dare you to watch those games again.

I remember Harry Kane taking corners, I really do. I don’t remember falling asleep during the games though.

 

[COV]

I never said that, clearly. Is it actually illegal now to say that Southgate’s England are boring to watch? I didn’t realise teams that dare play attacking football or simply venture out of their own penalty area can’t win titles

Name me an England team that’s been great to watch

 

[baldy]

Name me an England team that’s been great to watch

Venables Euro 96 team

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Name me an England team that’s been great to watch

Capello’s 2010 qualifiers as I said above. The double thrashing of Croatia was something to behold

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Capello’s 2010 qualifiers as I said above. The double thrashing of Croatia was something to behold

The same Croatia that were ranked 65th in the world at the time?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The same Croatia that were ranked 65th in the world at the time?

And that beat us to qualifying for the Euros immediately before.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

And that beat us to qualifying for the Euros immediately before.

Infact you are right. The 6-0 win over Andorra will be spoken about for generations.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Infact you are right. The 6-0 win over Andorra will be spoken about for generations.

34 goals just 6 conceded. I was asked for an entertaining England side and that was one.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

34 goals just 6 conceded. I was asked for an entertaining England side and that was one.

For this euros we scored 37 goals conceded 6 in 2 less games so your argument doesn't really make sense to be honest.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Capello’s 2010 qualifiers as I said above. The double thrashing of Croatia was something to behold

Sorry but qualifiers are fuck all compared to the real thing. I’d rather we limp through qualifying then make it to the semi finals each time than batter qualifying and go home after 4 turgid games.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Sorry but qualifiers are fuck all compared to the real thing. I’d rather we limp through qualifying then make it to the semi finals each time than batter qualifying and go home after 4 turgid games.

As I said, Capello totally lost the plot at the tournament with.bizarre squad and then team selections. Had he stuck to his guns we’d have gone far-sadly he didn’t.