Sick Boy
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I didn’t actually.
But you’re clearly completely clueless about the culture around football here.
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But you’re clearly completely clueless about the culture around football here.
Sick Boy
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You’ve chosen a season where a third of the games were played behind closed doors.I haven’t a clue about Seria A but attendances average championship level is this right?
The modern experience in a PL stadium is very different to Serie A, especially away from the tourist/plastic clubs like Juventus etc. You also only get a tiny number of away fans as there are restrictions on away fans attending games - so usually they’re only a few hundred.
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Evo1883
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Italian football has massive problems with infrastructure, alot of stadiums are old and decaying.. it has a problem with transportation links and a huge ultras/ hooligan problem .
It's easier these days for many Italians to watch football on TV /streams .
I have no doubt they are passionate about the sport
Only 3 teams in serie A own/part own their stadium apparently
It's easier these days for many Italians to watch football on TV /streams .
I have no doubt they are passionate about the sport
Only 3 teams in serie A own/part own their stadium apparently
Grendel
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In the prior season it was higher at 25,000 vs 39,000 in the premier league
the real thing that sets England apart from other countries is the leagues below
championship average is 19,000 vs 7,000 U.K. the Italy second league
Evo1883
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Italy's crumbling colosseums - The state of Italian football stadiums - Apollo Heyes
Whenever a casual viewer tunes into a Serie A match, theres a common set of questions that are usually asked, many of which are related to the stadium. “Why are there so many empty seats?”, “Why do so many stadiums have a running track?”, “Why is it in such bad condition?” and more. There are …
www.apolloheyes.com
Evo1883
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I think the German 2nd tier has good crowds too mate
Sick Boy
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The experience inside the stadiums away from the likes of Juve is very different compared to England, I would image it's something similar to the 1980s still. It's the wider culture and intensity around it - the football culture is very different.
Grendel
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It does actually similar to ours almost the same in fact
Sick Boy
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A lot of stadiums are council owned, which mean they don't get properly maintained.Italy's crumbling colosseums - The state of Italian football stadiums - Apollo Heyes
Whenever a casual viewer tunes into a Serie A match, theres a common set of questions that are usually asked, many of which are related to the stadium. “Why are there so many empty seats?”, “Why do so many stadiums have a running track?”, “Why is it in such bad condition?” and more. There are …
I can't imagine what would happen in Verona if the council sold the stadium to a rugby club from Rome.
Evo1883
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Yes the figures show German top flight football is the most attended in Europe , and the bundesliga 2 just above the championship too .
Some factors like pricing , free travel to and from matches .
England have more historical clubs than Germany though , the figures are similar throughout the top 2 divisions but the english leagues take over from 3rd tier and below , which shows that smaller more local football is bigger in England than in Germany
Some factors like pricing , free travel to and from matches .
England have more historical clubs than Germany though , the figures are similar throughout the top 2 divisions but the english leagues take over from 3rd tier and below , which shows that smaller more local football is bigger in England than in Germany
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What kind of rental agreements do they have,could explain the condition of them , without knowing it's hard to judge,for instance if they're low could it be argued they're subsidised etc
Sick Boy
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No idea to be honest - the Verona one probably hasn't had anything done to it since Italia '90.
Going to the average Serie A stadium probably is like going back to the '80s.
Bizarrely, I have never once seen a policeman inside the home end in the stadium in Verona - I think they are not actually allowed to enter unless of emergencies.
cc84cov
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So is a lot of countries mateeee
SkyBlue_Bear83
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Seen Perisic tested positive for covid 19, wonder where he got that from considering they just played Scotland and none of there players were in close contact with Billy Gilmour
Mucca Mad Boys
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So all of the weaker teams should try to play gung-ho football and get battered 5-0 by the better teams than them?
You wouldn’t even make a good manager on Football Manager.
Fair play to Sweden, they play a solid 4-4-2 shape and hit teams on the counter. They have a pretty average team with a few good individuals and they make the most of it.
COV
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He doesn’t know what he’s talking about. A simple look at their record tells you they aren’t a bad team.
People seem to have lost all sense of perspective. Just because you’re not winning tournaments and playing like Brazil (because you haven’t got the players to do so), it doesn’t make you “shit”. I don’t ever see Sweden winning anything and they’re not pretty, but they use what they have and are a decent team. I wouldn’t pay to watch them, but they’re obviously pretty effective.
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Mucca Mad Boys
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With England, we’re always blessed to have at least 1 or 2 world class players in our squad. With a nation like Sweden, they just don’t have that. Ibrahimovic was a once in a generation player for them and that Isak looks like he could develop into a really good player.
The only way nations like Sweden can compete at major tournaments is if they’re solid defensively. They’ll very rarely win in a shoot out against the major nations.
For all of the chances they gave up v Spain, on a another day they could’ve scored 2 as they squandered the best chance of the second half!
COV
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Greece won the whole thing by playing that way in 2004
Mucca Mad Boys
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This was a decent read. Like or dislike Southgate, it’s worth a read.
It’s absolutely fair to say that Tuesday is a big test for Southgate. The culture in the England camp does seem to be different from the one under Sven, Capello and Hodgson.
Beating Germany in a knockout game would be a huge psychological boost. The momentum from that, you’d think, would probably get us to a final.
www.theguardian.com
It’s absolutely fair to say that Tuesday is a big test for Southgate. The culture in the England camp does seem to be different from the one under Sven, Capello and Hodgson.
Beating Germany in a knockout game would be a huge psychological boost. The momentum from that, you’d think, would probably get us to a final.
Southgate has created an England the players love but now comes acid test
Manager is creative and inclusive but his tactics divide public opinion before Germany clash that could be legacy-defining
Mucca Mad Boys
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Evo1883
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How old are you ?
Grendel
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They did. I doubt these teams will get a chance again. The qualifying and more teams added mean stronger nations will come through
Mucca Mad Boys
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I’m closer to 30 than I am 20, is there a relevance to that question?
Evo1883
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I was Intrugued as you said you wasn't alive in 92 .
hill83
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He’s just showing off because he’s 138.
Evo1883
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Evo1883
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On a serious note without lying , I wondered how old you were so I could tell you that you were too young to have a clue , and then I realised I once said Ben Stevenson would be better than James maddison so I backed out and just said "I'm intrigued " @Mucca Mad Boys
Mucca Mad Boys
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On a serious note without lying , I wondered how old you were so I could tell you that you were too young to have a clue , and then I realised I once said Ben Stevenson would be better than James maddison so I backed out and just said "I'm intrigued " @Mucca Mad Boys
That’s fair enough! I’m too much of statto to not have a clue! Even if I’m wrong.
Ultimately, we all want England to do well and compete at these major tournaments and for too long, we haven’t got the fine margins.
On Tuesday, if we beat Germany, Southgate is a hero and genius. If we lose, the knives will be out for a lot of people.
One thing I actually like about Southgate is that he’s not giving into public opinion to play certain players. Some of the more peculiar decisions have actually paid off too e.g. starting Saka or Trippier left back.
Three Lions ‘98 has been on repeat the whole tournament!
Evo1883
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Mucca Mad Boys
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Fuck sake we even disagree on which three lions version should be played
In fairness, I’m only listening to ‘98 in the build up to the Germany game because of the opening is Southgate’s penalty in ‘96.
Otherwise, it is the original for me too - I just didn’t think anyone would be interested in me breaking it down!
They did. 1992 in Sweden.
Group:
Denmark - England 0-0
Sweden (!) - Denmark 1-0
France - Denmark 1-2
Semi:
Holland - Denmark 2-2 (pens)
Germany - Denmark 0-2
Liquid Gold
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Would love for Czechia to do Holland here. Open up the route even more.
Evo1883
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Long story short, all favourites lose , England sneak in on the last bend and win it