Waghorn Rumour (6 Viewers)

[stay_up_skyblues]

I here you, but at 31 he's not going to get any better, spend the money on someone younger. ☺

Any 20 something strikers with years of proven experience in this league available on a free for similar wages?

 

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[usskyblue]

He's OK, not exactly 'marquee', but what are people expecting?

Bloke in the casino said he won’t leave Portsmouth m8

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Any 20 something strikers with years of proven experience in this league available on a free for similar wages?

Any players we sign is a gamble.

 

[lord_garrincha]

Ronaldo?
He's 35
Too old

Better than...
Ronaldo?
He's 44
Too obese

In the days of Messi & Ronaldo... we think football is perfected, but Brazil Ronaldo 95-97 was fucking lethal!

 

[cc84cov]

He’s probably on 10 times what Biamou was on too

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

He’s probably on 10 times what Biamou was on too

That’s probably the average wage difference between championship players and non league players - so about right really

 

[Hobo]

How many games did Godden play fully fit and to repeat myself we don’t play with a target man do you agree or not ?

He played 23 games - fully fit I don't know? But you could ask that question about a lot of players (Max Biamou for instance).

Waghorne scored 5 in about 32. The bottom line is it is 6 goals v 5 across the season, so a negligable difference when it comes to goal contribution.

 

[Hobo]

To be fair, the model thing is relevant. Throughout Robins tenure we've always coupled developmental signings with experienced players. There is a model they look to work towards (as with most clubs) but that model very much includes these types of players too.

It is like the assumption Shipley and Allen will be bombed out? No they were squad contributers. Cheap fillers who you could spend a lot more on replacements for the same ability.

The ones who we will try and off load are Kastener, Jobello and probably Hillsner.

It is about mixing and matching. Like Marosi being shifted out and Wilson staying? Marosi probably shaded it on ability but I suspect we have freed up a wage 3x on the person staying?

 

[cc84cov]

He played 23 games - fully fit I don't know? But you could ask that question about a lot of players (Max Biamou for instance).

Waghorne scored 5 in about 32. The bottom line is it is 6 goals v 5 across the season, so a negligable difference when it comes to goal contribution.

Negligible or waste of time effort and money

 

[GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee]

Unsure how I feel about this signing. Tons of experience which can only be a good thing but also not the “name” I would have gone for. If it turns out to be true, I’m excited to see how he fits in and what he can do. On a separate note, I really thought the max hysteria would die down now he’s left but if anything the delusion has evolved even further, I’m now seeing people saying they’d rather have him than Waghorn??


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[blunted]

It is like the assumption Shipley and Allen will be bombed out? No they were squad contributers. Cheap fillers who you could spend a lot more on replacements for the same ability.

The ones who we will try and off load are Kastener, Jobello and probably Hillsner.

It is about mixing and matching. Like Marosi being shifted out and Wilson staying? Marosi probably shaded it on ability but I suspect we have freed up a wage 3x on the person staying?

Hope Shippers is given another chance possibly playing on the right like near the seasons end, cutting in on his left foot. Allen I would love to come good but he looked well off the pace last season. A league 1 club will snap him up if available. Think we will struggle to move the other 3 on. Hilssner maybe we need one more look if his breathing problem is resolved.

 

[better days]

Hope Shippers is given another chance possibly playing on the right like near the seasons end, cutting in on his left foot. Allen I would love to come good but he looked well off the pace last season. A league 1 club will snap him up if available. Think we will struggle to move the other 3 on. Hilssner maybe we need one more look if his breathing problem is resolved.

Don't expect to see Shippers featuring as much as last season

 

[Skybluefaz]

Don't expect to see Shippers featuring as much as last season

Think he'll be moved out? On loan or permanent.

 

[better days]

Think he'll be moved out? On loan or permanent.

Really don't know but don't think he's high up in our plans

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

Think he'll be moved out? On loan or permanent.

Loan

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

i like shippers but he was lazy last season unfortunately

 

[CovLad94]

i like shippers but he was lazy last season unfortunately

Tbf weren't necessarily lazy, the games just sort of passed him by, nowhere near championship quality, time will tell though.

 

[CDK]

Tbf weren't necessarily lazy, the games just sort of passed him by, nowhere near championship quality, time will tell though.

In certain games above his level for sure.

 

[Samo]

i like shippers but he was lazy last season unfortunately

He has a goal in him but he doesn't have 90 minutes in him. Makes it difficult for any manager.

 

[Ibby]

 

[SkyblueDad]

He has a goal in him but he doesn't have 90 minutes in him. Makes it difficult for any manager.

He might have 90 minutes in him with our new first team coach influence

 

[Hobo]

Hope Shippers is given another chance possibly playing on the right like near the seasons end, cutting in on his left foot. Allen I would love to come good but he looked well off the pace last season. A league 1 club will snap him up if available. Think we will struggle to move the other 3 on. Hilssner maybe we need one more look if his breathing problem is resolved.

It will be a make or break season for him. The covid break really did hamper our start to the season fitness wise and overlooked by a lot of our fans. A proper pre season and it will be down to him as with Allen.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

He might have 90 minutes in him with our new first team coach influence

I just don't think he's a natural 'elite' athlete and tires quickly. Possibly some of it linked to asthma and have no idea about how he approaches his fitness in general so I assume that's fine. Can't imagine MR would have much time for him at all if he didn't take it seriously, esp given his ability deficit at this level.

 

[Legia Sky Blue]

Disagree that Shipley doesn't have ability. He has as good a left foot as you'll find in the Championship, but unfortunately last season that wasn't enough to compensate for a lack of fitness, strength and confidence, which apart from a couple of instances led to him having a very disappointing season. Next season looks like a make or break one for him, where he really needs to address those weaknesses or he will be on his way out.

 

[Grendel]

Disagree that Shipley doesn't have ability. He has as good a left foot as you'll find in the Championship

Ridiculous

 

[mr_monkey]

Disagree that Shipley doesn't have ability. He has as good a left foot as you'll find in the Championship, but unfortunately last season that wasn't enough to compensate for a lack of fitness, strength and confidence, which apart from a couple of instances led to him having a very disappointing season. Next season looks like a make or break one for him, where he really needs to address those weaknesses or he will be on his way out.

Seriously, stop with the wum posts everyone, it's so fucking dull

 

[Nick]

Disagree that Shipley doesn't have ability. He has as good a left foot as you'll find in the Championship, but unfortunately last season that wasn't enough to compensate for a lack of fitness, strength and confidence, which apart from a couple of instances led to him having a very disappointing season. Next season looks like a make or break one for him, where he really needs to address those weaknesses or he will be on his way out.

Are you being serious

 

[better days]

I just don't think he's a natural 'elite' athlete and tires quickly. Possibly some of it linked to asthma and have no idea about how he approaches his fitness in general so I assume that's fine. Can't imagine MR would have much time for him at all if he didn't take it seriously, esp given his ability deficit at this level.

Is he looking after himself properly?

 

[Tommo1993]

Decent left peg and I still think he can up his game, but that’s outrageous.

 

[higgs]

Is he looking after himself properly?

Does he like a beer and a curry?

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[baldy]

Ridiculous

I remember last season when he scored & did,I think,an embarrassing cupping of ears thing to a non-existent crowd & the FB village idiots all drooled & were saying ‘See? He IS championship material’…pathetic

 

[better days]

Does he like a beer and a curry?

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Definitely
And maybe likes tobacco

 

[higgs]

Definitely
And maybe likes tobacco

Get why he's always looking to catch his breath then makes sense

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[usskyblue]

Definitely
And maybe likes tobacco

Yeahhhhh, so did Johan Cruyff m8 …. Huhh?

 

[SkyblueDad]

And George Hudson used to put his fag in the side of his mouth and stand outside the main stand signing loads of autographs