European championships 2020 thread (22 Viewers)
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Mucca Mad Boys
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You wouldn’t think so though. For some reason, he has so many naysayers.
For me, qualifying and friendlies mean nothing. We’ve had countless managers whose ticked those boxes and underachieved at the major tournament - when you earn your money. Capello and Hodgson qualified with almost impeccable records, yet failed miserably at the major tournament.
Fair play to Southgate, I’ve always had a good feeling about him, even if he’s not the most accomplished manager.
Like many people on this board, I am on top of the world right now!
Grendel
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Southgate is easily the best option and the best manager we’ve had since Robson
Evo1883
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I don't know never been a fan ..
Maybe I should come round
For me I struggle to enjoy negative football , I guess sometimes you have to balance negative tactics and results..
I'd rather win the euros full stop and if that's done by playing like arsenal in the early 90s then so be it
Maybe I should come round
For me I struggle to enjoy negative football , I guess sometimes you have to balance negative tactics and results..
I'd rather win the euros full stop and if that's done by playing like arsenal in the early 90s then so be it
Brighton Sky Blue
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I don't know never been a fan ..
Maybe I should come round
For me I struggle to enjoy negative football , I guess sometimes you have to balance negative tactics and results..
I'd rather win the euros full stop and if that's done by playing like arsenal in the the 90s then so be it
Yep
COV
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I think at this stage Southgate’s record is actually better in terms of win ratio, and performance in tournaments too
hill83
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Windmilling mate. International football is much more competitive now. No 7-0 guaranteeds these days.
Evo1883
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Nah , Bobby Robson was a better manager than Southgate...played better football too
hill83
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Time to use age as a barometer for having a clue yet? You haven’t got one.
COV
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Ah come on, don’t make out you two are in the same boat
Evo says his piece and backs it up, you just constantly whine and and say stupid things like “it’s like Southgate is deliberately trying to throw the match”, “punished for going forward” etc, some of the comments you’ve made have been really embarrassing
Evo1883
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There's a fair few 7 nils these days still to be fair
Evo1883
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Get back to your beer shitlips
Grendel
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Southgate has the ability to harness players and get them playing for England and really wanting to play. It’s looked a chore for many years but it’s clear he’s very very good at getting the players to play like they are a collective not just individuals, it makes the likes of Cappello look embarrassing
hill83
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You win tosschops
Evo1883
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It was when all is said and done the same under Robson wasn't it ?
He had the same togetherness with the squad in 90 .
We were very unfortunate to not win that too
CJ_covblaze
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Plenty of assists too
COV
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Their records say otherwise, and it’s more competitive now
SlowerThanPlatt
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This should be a good game, Ukraine are gung ho
Grendel
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Robson was until then hated as manager - the same as Southgate
COV
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No it wasn’t. He failed to qualify for Euro ‘84, had a decent Workd Cup ‘86, shocking Euro ‘88 and a good Italia ‘90- but had some luck as Belgium should have beat us and we all remember Cameroon. There were people calling for the team to be brought home after the first game, and he was booed by the whole ground at some games.
All the respect in the world for Robson and he definitely wins in the ‘legend’ stakes, but take the sentimentality away and Southgate is doing a better job than Robson did, and that’s a fact.
Brighton Sky Blue
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rob9872
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I'm always a club over country man, but really hard not to get wrapped up in this. Loved the build up today and yesterday's 2 games were outstanding. Loving the football and would really love us to win this one, especially with so many young players in the squad. Proper feelgood factor around too.
Evo1883
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Fair point .
CJ_covblaze
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Will say the same as I’ve said for the last week. If this was any other nation playing like we have in the 4 games we’d be praised for being efficient and for how Southgate has us set up for controlling games. Think back to 2010. Spain were lorded for all that attacking talent and flair. Scored and conceded very few goals playing “dull” football and won the whole thing. There’s still a long way to go yet but this is looking very very good.
SlowerThanPlatt
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Are you going to Rome?
COV
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I have nothing to get over, it’s not me with a whole omelette on my face, it was you hyping up Capello as a much better England manager
Grendel
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And the real point is who would you replace him with? If it’s England only what is there?
I thought Sven was a pretty good manager who got into the England way and tournament games and we were unlucky against Brazil - cappello was horrendous
Skybluefaz
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When a man has experienced the darkest places at the highest level you have to think he must know better than most. He just must. I've knocked him over some selections, but in reality, what right do I have? Fair play Southgate. Congratulations on the redemption. That drink will taste good tonight.
COV
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Tournaments are LESS competitive now as more lower ranked sides have access .
England destroy the qualifiers every time whats with all the competitive nonsense
Well slice & dice it however you want, Southgate is a better England manager than Bobby Robson.