European championships 2020 thread (18 Viewers)
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LastGarrison
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The closer it gets the more I fancy us in normal time.
Liquid Gold
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I'm also feeling less pessimistic. I had Italy 1-0 in my head but I actually can't see us not scoring.
1nilandwe...
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Southgate's management of the tournament so far means that England should be relatively fresh going into the final. Italy on the other hand were looking leggy at the end of their semi final. Could be a major deciding factor on Sunday.
If England can keep it tight and not get drawn in to dropping deeper and giving the Italians room to play in midfield, a repeat of the Germany match could be on the cards. Head still says Italy by a nose though.
Even if we lose, I don't think I'll be too disappointed. This side has proven that with clear-headed thinking and good plans, England teams can compete and go deep in tournaments. It's so refreshing to see such an obvious style of play, that has been well communicated to the players, even if it's not the most attractive brand of football. How often have we gone into a tournament seemingly without a proper plan. Compare that to other teams around Europe and the world (we all know what Spain, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Portugal etc. are going to do before a whistle blows).
In a one-off final, anything can happen really. I think this team can be very proud of themselves regardless of result.
Obviously if they win, they should all get knighthoods and never expect to buy a drink anywhere in the country ever again. Maybe even statues of each of them lining Trafalgar Square. Portraits lining the halls of the House of Lords. Etc.
If England can keep it tight and not get drawn in to dropping deeper and giving the Italians room to play in midfield, a repeat of the Germany match could be on the cards. Head still says Italy by a nose though.
Even if we lose, I don't think I'll be too disappointed. This side has proven that with clear-headed thinking and good plans, England teams can compete and go deep in tournaments. It's so refreshing to see such an obvious style of play, that has been well communicated to the players, even if it's not the most attractive brand of football. How often have we gone into a tournament seemingly without a proper plan. Compare that to other teams around Europe and the world (we all know what Spain, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Portugal etc. are going to do before a whistle blows).
In a one-off final, anything can happen really. I think this team can be very proud of themselves regardless of result.
Obviously if they win, they should all get knighthoods and never expect to buy a drink anywhere in the country ever again. Maybe even statues of each of them lining Trafalgar Square. Portraits lining the halls of the House of Lords. Etc.
Evo1883
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Right OK, to save the inevitable posts after the final if we win .
1. I and some others got it wrong about Southgate
2.some people got it wrong about kane and Sterling
3.some people predict football wrong full stop .
There , get it all out now so we can enjoy the win if it happens
1. I and some others got it wrong about Southgate
2.some people got it wrong about kane and Sterling
3.some people predict football wrong full stop .
There , get it all out now so we can enjoy the win if it happens
COV
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Right OK, to save the inevitable posts after the final if we win .
1. I and some others got it wrong about Southgate
2.some people got it wrong about kane and Sterling
3.some people predict football wrong full stop .
There , get it all out now so we can enjoy the win if it happens
haha- we've all got something wrong. I was saying Kane should be rested. Only ones I had an issue with were the ones doing the stupid negative stuff with zero to back it up.
If we win on Sunday perhaps the last thing on my mind would be to be going through old posts to see who said what
Liquid Gold
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I think even those of us who weren't so anti-Southgate got it wrong. Nobody expected him to have us playing like this.
1nilandwe...
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This is exactly right.
In hindsight (it being a wonderful thing, obviously) even the draw against Scotland looks like very sensible tournament football against a highly energised and motivated opponent, whereas at the time it felt like a very poor result and performance. Didn't get dragged into a scrap, no injuries or suspensions, conserved energy, effectively qualified for the next round and got the hell out of dodge as fast as they could.
Liquid Gold
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Very good point. I lost my shit after that result but it could have been chaos. Got it out the way, topped the group and then bought our game during the knockout stages like a sensible team does.
England of the past would have put their performance of the tournament in during that game then failed in the knockouts.
*cough* 2016 *cough*
COV
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I don't remember any really good performances in 2016 tbh
Liquid Gold
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COV
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Yes thats true, I remember it being not the greatest of matches though.
If we are genuinely aiming to be a team that gets to the tail end of every tournament then the group phases don't really mean too much, many times the eventual winners have a dodgy result or two in the group stages as they're really going through the motions ready for the knockout stages. I think it was Klinsmann or someone who said that the German mentality was that as long as you have 4 points after 2 games the rest is not important- performances, flowing football etc
1nilandwe...
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COV
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Thats very true
Because a team like Germany are so used to getting to semis/ finals, they don't get as hung up on the group stages as we do, we tend to put way too much emphasis on putting on great shows against minnows like Scotland
1nilandwe...
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We all fell for it though didn't we? It felt like a defeat. Like negative, anti-football. Scotland came away celebrating a 0-0 that meant they had to go and beat Croatia to qualify. They treated it like their final and it showed.Thats very true
Because a team like Germany are so used to getting to semis/ finals, they don't get as hung up on the group stages as we do, we tend to put way too much emphasis on putting on great shows against minnows like Scotland
COV
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I was ok with it and ended up bickering on here that it wasn't really important, I do understand though.
I think the way games like that get built up it feels disappointing, it was meaningless really though with it being their massive cup final. In a tournament the only really 'big' games are the knockout games, thats the mentality we need.
1nilandwe...
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COV
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I'll be a happy man if that happens
You never know, we do usually start strong- maybe we'll blow them away early and shock everyone.
Jagmannn
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400 - 1 Maguire to score first and win 3-0 ...10-1 Kane to Score 2 ...if you can get a double bet on that you are talking serious money
David O'Day
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LastGarrison
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Don’t think I’ve ever watched it in full!
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No, nor perhaps me. Although it's a well worn story, could be interesting, though we'll probably come away from it less than impressed with some of the standards of play!
CJ_covblaze
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Two tickets purchased. Upper tier but we’re there and that’s all that matters. 48 hours to go…
Sky Blue Pete
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How much?
SlowerThanPlatt
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Some offering a grand. On that note, be extra cautious unless you’re buying through official channels, scams are rife atm getting people to pay through F+F or bank transfer so there’s no chance of getting your money back.
cc84cov
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No chance our bench is far superior to theirs we will be fine
SlowerThanPlatt
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Far superior…is it?
CJ_covblaze
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This has taken a lot of hard work by a great team of people. Well worth a watch. Amazing what’s been achieved in a relatively short amount of time.
COV
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I think it’s better, but ‘far superior’ might be stretching it a bit
LastGarrison
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My mate bought one after the Germany game cost him 945eur which worked out at £810.00.
After the Denmark game one block away from him is going for £8500.00.
£810.00 seems a steal now!!
COV
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It’s been 55 years m8
CJ_covblaze
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95€ each. Loving UEFA’s pricing this tournament. I thought they might jack up the prices by trying to make some of the money back that they’ve lost due to the reduced prices but all credit to them, they’ve kept them the same.