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cc84cov
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improved keeper & strikers we have another option with o’hare,a LB & CB will be signed before we start we have over 3 weeks yet...
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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Skyblueweeman
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Lost
GK - Marosi (1)
Def - Osti, McCallum (not counting Giles as he went mid-season and we coped) (2)
Mid - Sheaf, James (2)
Att - Bakayoko, Biamou, Gyokeres (3)
8 players who were in or around the first team
Re/Gained
GK - Moore (1)
Def -
Mid - Bright, Sheaf, Jodi (3)
Att - Waghorn, Gyorkeres (2)
6 players who have either re-signed, are new additions or didn't play at all last season
In terms of depth, we'd need two more to be comparable with last season and obviously in Defence. In terms of the impact of Moore, Bright and Waghorn compared to Marosi, James, Baka/Biamou, I'd say marginally better but I'm sure MR and the team have irons in fires and will know where they need to gap fill.
GK - Marosi (1)
Def - Osti, McCallum (not counting Giles as he went mid-season and we coped) (2)
Mid - Sheaf, James (2)
Att - Bakayoko, Biamou, Gyokeres (3)
8 players who were in or around the first team
Re/Gained
GK - Moore (1)
Def -
Mid - Bright, Sheaf, Jodi (3)
Att - Waghorn, Gyorkeres (2)
6 players who have either re-signed, are new additions or didn't play at all last season
In terms of depth, we'd need two more to be comparable with last season and obviously in Defence. In terms of the impact of Moore, Bright and Waghorn compared to Marosi, James, Baka/Biamou, I'd say marginally better but I'm sure MR and the team have irons in fires and will know where they need to gap fill.
Skyblueweeman
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I'd be very confident that we'll score more next season if we get a fully fit Godden, covid free Walker, fully immersed Gyo and experienced Waghorn all fit for the whole season. A combo of any two of them keeps me happy to be fair.
The same couldn't be said last season if we were left with Baka/Biamou.
KenilworthSkyBlue
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Can we definitively say whether we've improved in the keeper department? Moore has barely played in 3 years and reviews from Sheffield United fans suggest his level is probably top end League One.
Until we see him play none of us can actually say whether he's an improvement on what we previously had.
cc84cov
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I’m confident we have upgraded from Wilson who’s miles off and Marosi who doesn’t command his area
Flatters to deceive pal
Legia Sky Blue
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In regard to loans, and keeping in mind it is still over 3 weeks until the season kick offs I just checked out when our loans from last season arrived at the club which should give us a guide to what we might expect in the next few weeks. Giles had already arrived by this time last pre season and then the others arrived as follows:
Ostigaard - 2 weeks before kick off
Sheaf - 1 week before kick off
McCallum - 2 games into the season
I suspect we are done now with permanent signings unless MR looks to wheel and deal by releasing say O'Hare or Hamer. I think we will bring in 3 loans before the end of the window if there are no major departures though, then its just a matter of when exactly they will arrive. Ideally they would all be here before the first game, but I get the feeling things might drag out a little this time round.
Ostigaard - 2 weeks before kick off
Sheaf - 1 week before kick off
McCallum - 2 games into the season
I suspect we are done now with permanent signings unless MR looks to wheel and deal by releasing say O'Hare or Hamer. I think we will bring in 3 loans before the end of the window if there are no major departures though, then its just a matter of when exactly they will arrive. Ideally they would all be here before the first game, but I get the feeling things might drag out a little this time round.
KenilworthSkyBlue
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Do you know if Moore commands his area?
Again we're making assumptions on things we don't definitively know.
CDK
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That's what I am wondering.
Sky Blue Pete
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Dave Boddy says Sky Blues want two or three more new signings
The Sky Blues have made five new senior signings so far in the summer transfer window
www.google.co.uk
Sounds like 2-3 more permanent to me. We need left back and centreback for definite
Torquay Sky Blue
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kg82
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You forgot to say something about virtue signalling.
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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With regards to the defence, and the goals conceded. If I recall a lot of goals came from avoidable mistakes.
I’m optimistic that the team will have learned from them and therefore better for the experience. Realistically if you want to be a championship footballer - you can’t really be making the same horrendous mistakes.
I’m sure the defence was better in the second half of the season when they stopped making school boy errors.
I’m optimistic that the team will have learned from them and therefore better for the experience. Realistically if you want to be a championship footballer - you can’t really be making the same horrendous mistakes.
I’m sure the defence was better in the second half of the season when they stopped making school boy errors.
SlowerThanPlatt
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Tbf and I am a fan of his but quite a few of the mistakes came from McFadzean who’s the oldest in the squad I think
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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There is that, weren’t his mistakes more stupid challenges in the box? Those I’m afraid happen at all teams.
I’d like to think that each situation was different though. A lot of the earlier mistakes if I recall were bad defending from set pieces and really silly passes p
cc84cov
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I guarantee it do you really think robins is gonna let Marosi go for more of the same keeper ?
Saddlebrains
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We havent actually paid a fee for anyone this season yet so i will be very suprised if we didnt splash out on at least 1.
We spent a reported 1.3 on Hamer and 900k on Walker last summer.
Our budget now is apparently bigger so i would expect similar to 2 million being splashed again
Hopefully on Ostigard. He will be worth 5 times that in 2 seasons
We spent a reported 1.3 on Hamer and 900k on Walker last summer.
Our budget now is apparently bigger so i would expect similar to 2 million being splashed again
Hopefully on Ostigard. He will be worth 5 times that in 2 seasons
KenilworthSkyBlue
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How can you guarantee it? I don't know what's in Robins' thinking or plans and neither do you.
Moore might turn out to be a shrewd signing but ignoring the opinions of Sheffield United fans coupled with the fact he's featured a handful of times in 3 years can't be ignored. The arguement that of "well he must be good because Robins signed him" is frankly idiotic as no transfer comes with such guarantees.
SlowerThanPlatt
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Gyokeres?
KenilworthSkyBlue
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We've paid a fee for Gyokeres and Sheaf?
SlowerThanPlatt
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And Sheaf though I don’t know if that was accounted for last season. If it wasn’t then that’s supposedly close to £2m already
Saddlebrains
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Yea but Gyok is widely accepted to be aroun 500k upfront.
So going off last season of around 2 mill, if we have 2.5 then that takes us still to around 1.5 million to chuck about?
So going off last season of around 2 mill, if we have 2.5 then that takes us still to around 1.5 million to chuck about?
cc84cov
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Come back to me on this in a couple of months we will resume this then
KenilworthSkyBlue
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Come back to me on this in a couple of months we will resume this then
That was literally my original point?
SlowerThanPlatt
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Do you promise to keep the same opinion for that long?Come back to me on this in a couple of months we will resume this then
cc84cov
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My point is I’ll be standing by what I’ve said come back to me on a couple of months & we can resume this but I’m sure you’ll say I was right,Robins has reportedly been after a keeper since last January as he clearly wasn’t happy with Marosi to the point he used Wilson for how long,I’ll be very surprised if he’s not an upgrade else what was the point ?
SlowerThanPlatt
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Every player signed is meant to be an upgrade. It doesn’t mean they will be. We have no idea yet whether Moore will be, I think that’s the point being made.
cc84cov
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I’ve never seen a keeper which such a beautiful smile I’m happy and confident he will be good
KenilworthSkyBlue
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I wouldn't jinx it, standing by what you say is hardly your strong point.
The point was I'm unsure why Moore is being touted as a significant upgrade when not one of us has ever seen him play and his record, as well as the reviews from fans of his previous club, neither suggest that he's a significant upgrade on what we've had previously.
The arguement of 'Robins signed him so of course he'll be an upgrade' is ridiculous as whilst that might be the aim, there's simply nothing to prove that or make it a guarantee.
cc84cov
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Why sell Marosi and risk it then ?
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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Because Marosi has 1 year left on his contract and allegedly fell out with MR, so they’re getting a fee to add to the coffers whilst signing someone Robins believes to be as good as Marosi?
skyblueelephant76
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Brighton have let Clarke go out on loan and he is a better CB than Osti. It would be strange if they were keeping him for their squad, more likely they triggered the contract extension so they could sell him.