Liquid Gold
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Not really a fan of F1 but enjoyed the netflix series so giving it a go today.
How does this compare to other races?
How does this compare to other races?
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May not even need Leclerc to retire. Anything left in his tyres?
SkyBlueSoul
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Verstappen 2nd in Driver of the Day atm 
hill83
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Hard to say really. If you don’t know the inner workings every race would be boring as fuck.
Liquid Gold
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I like the sort of overarching storylines from the show with the rivalries and everything but the race seems a bit dull.
I feel like I could just see a roundup then some interviews and enjoy it more.
I dunno, I'll drop out now as I hate it when people show up in the NFL thread to tell us they're not bothered
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This is possibly one of the better ones
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Answer's no. Can't help but admire Hamilton's racing, been at his absolute peak for the past few seasons.
We'll_live_and_die
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This has been quite exciting because you felt Hamilton could get it.
The entertainment level is much like most races except Monaco. Monaco is boring and not worth it.
This race is typical of the entertainment level though. Usually high enjoyment levels for about a third of the race.
Next season should be better with closer racing from the new cars.
Paul Anthony
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Turned into quite a race in the end! Wouldn't have been upset at all with a Leclerc win, but Hamilton was just on it for that final stint.
Things are certainly going to be interesting next time Max and Lewis have a battle. Neither of them are going to give an inch.
Things are certainly going to be interesting next time Max and Lewis have a battle. Neither of them are going to give an inch.
Paul Anthony
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Think Horner would do well to remember Max's history isn't exactly spotless. He's caused more than his fair share of incidents during his career.
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Meh, it's always their job to stand up for their driver, though. As much here (and he does look genuinely pissed off) is surely to try and make Hamilton a bit more hesitant whenever Verstappen lunges at him, isn't it?
Is Little Grass Horner still crying , he like a football player begging ref for a red card
Not a massive Hamilton fan tbh but ffs Horner shut the fuck up and move on racing incident
It happens when you get racers not giving an inch plus crash bandicoot Verstappen caused enough accidents
As for that prick that wants Hamilton suspended for a race , lets cover the cars in bubble wrap shall we idiot
Not a massive Hamilton fan tbh but ffs Horner shut the fuck up and move on racing incident
It happens when you get racers not giving an inch plus crash bandicoot Verstappen caused enough accidents
As for that prick that wants Hamilton suspended for a race , lets cover the cars in bubble wrap shall we idiot
Paul Anthony
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While I'm sure that's true, I doubt Lewis cares really what Horner says, in all honesty. If he wants to win this title, he knows he can't afford to back out and let Max get away.
tisza
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Max been very aggressive ( but generally fair) when he's raced Lewis this season.
The general 50-50 split in opinion across the media and social media on the incident is interesting.
Can see more incidents coming in the rest of the season. Red Bull reaction does seem fuelled by the impact. If he'd just beached in the gravel would Horner be so vocal?
covcity4life
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Great drive form Hamilton but I want verstappen so would been nice if more of a penalty for the collision
Saddlebrains
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Im the resident max fan, so of course i see that As Lewis punting max off at 180mph.
Tell you what. The rest of the season will be fireworks. This will be another Rosberg Hamilton battle
Tell you what. The rest of the season will be fireworks. This will be another Rosberg Hamilton battle
Houchens Head
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Sour grapes! Shut the fuck up buttercup!
olderskyblue
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Max turned into the corner with no regard to Hamilton being alongside him. He had a clear view of how far up the side of him Lewis was, and just didn’t care. you take big risks like that, then don’t complain when it doesn’t work out.
Max has carried out similar aggressive moves in his career, it’s why drivers say they always give him room, because they know he’ll go for it no matter what.
I thought it was 50/50 tbh
Max has carried out similar aggressive moves in his career, it’s why drivers say they always give him room, because they know he’ll go for it no matter what.
I thought it was 50/50 tbh
We'll_live_and_die
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For anyone saying Lewis was not alongside, take a look at this
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tbf, any driver's going to be alongside when they punt into the side of another car, by definition!
It's more the context that's relevant, for each incident.
(As an aside, I miss the days of Rene Arnoux stubbornly refusing to let cars lap him - that was a fantastic leveller!)
We'll_live_and_die
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In the coverage I watched at one point they mentioned a few races back Hamilton started on pole, verstappen came up the inside at turn one and Hamilton yielded to avoid a collision.
What’s different here is verstappen didn’t yield and attempt to regain the place later in the race. He decided to try and keep in front despite knowing Hamilton was hot on the inside and would go deep. If Verstappen backed off he may have even got the place back on the exit with a switchback.
Frostie
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He's still not fully alongside though, Verstappen's clearly still ahead & that's also because Lewis has outbraked himself hence completely overshooting the apex as the FIA said in their statement.
There's nothing malicious in it & the slanging match (both directions) is poor. It's an error of judgment which is easily done when you have 2 incredible drivers not wanting to give an inch at 180mph. The galling thing for Max & Red Bull is Lewis has essentially been rewarded for punting his only title rival off so totally get their frustrations.
Frostie
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It's black & white in the rulebook, the car in front doesn't have to yield, the racing line is his. It's on the car behind to back out of it, hence the penalty for Hamilton.
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Verstappen's action in a previous race is also, of course, irrelevant as to whether this current one is an appropriate move or not.
You could argue the wise driver gives way and looks at the bigger picture. Verstappen's obviously playing a long game of trying to get in drivers' heads though, where they think they either give way (so give him an easier pass), or risk going out. Now tbf, you could therefore say he brought Sunday on himself, because of that...
Saddlebrains
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tisza
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Get Red Bull & Max's frustrations which have obviously been exacerbated by the severity of crash but now it's time for some calmer heads to dial down the rhetoric. Adding fuel to the fire is leading to some shocking racial abuse for Hamilton.
The professionals can't agree whether it was a racing incident or an offense.
Stewards didn't absolve Max of any blame as they found Hamilton "predominantly" responsible hence the 10 second penalty.
Paul Anthony
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But, again. I'll make the point I made yesterday.
Why would Max, with a 33 point championship lead, not at least anticipate the possibility that Lewis isn't going to back out and leave just a little bit more space. Worst that happens that way is he loses the place, or goes in the run off, probably gets it back later, with what looked a faster race car over a full race distance. He might even have been back ahead by the end of the lap. As wide as Lewis was (offline, dirty part of the track in an F1 car always means understeer) , Max didn't need to squeeze him that hard. He had more room to leave, He can afford to back out. Lewis, with a deficit and up against a car that seemingly has better race pace than the Mercedes, can't afford to keep backing out. Max really should have realised that.
I called the penalty for Lewis immediately, purely on the basis of the Russell/Sainz incident the day before, so the precedent had been set even though it wasn't anywhere near the same severity as this. And, as others have said, the rule is fairly clear about who wins the corner in that type of scenario, so a penalty was almost an inevitability. But, I stand by my point. It was a risk for Max that I don't believe he needed to take. He should have thought about his title lead.
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I don't normally highlight such things, but I really need to know what that autocorrected word means!