R.I.P. PES (4 Viewers)

[Frostie]

I know there's a few fans on here, wonder what people think of today's news?
Essentially, becoming a 'free to play' game (with lots of monetised add-ons):




Unbelievable misstep in my opinion & almost certainly the death of the series.
The trailer looks woeful, like PS3 quality despite supposedly taking a year off to work on it?


This thread sums it up pretty well:

 

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[rob9872]

Before my time, but as others have said what a great player. Hopefully there'll be a minutes silence at the Wolves game for him.

Rip pes, City legend

 

[AOM]

Yep, pretty shocking move from Konami.
I don't play online (is there even an offline this year?) but can't ever imagine wanting to play against a mobile player on my ps4

 

[covcity4life]

Gonna be bullshit for bullshit new generation that like bullshit fluff and not real football sims

Bullshit

 

[AOM]

Gonna be bullshit for bullshit new generation that like bullshit fluff and not real football sims

Bullshit

They've clearly just seen the mobile gaming market as their focus going forwards.
Think of the dumbed down console controls needed to make it fair against someone on an iphone

Who also thought the idea to release the game with 9 teams was a good idea?

FIFA doesn't look much better, but I'll probably just stick to that now

 

[covcity4life]

They've clearly just seen the mobile gaming market as their focus going forwards.
Think of the dumbed down console controls needed to make it fair against someone on an iphone

Who also thought the idea to release the game with 9 teams was a good idea?

FIFA doesn't look much better, but I'll probably just stick to that now

I will do manual transfers on pes 21 and hopefully someone makes kits option file

After a while will have to make new players and amend stats though

Such a shame they have done this

 

[hill83]

They've clearly just seen the mobile gaming market as their focus going forwards.
Think of the dumbed down console controls needed to make it fair against someone on an iphone

Who also thought the idea to release the game with 9 teams was a good idea?

FIFA doesn't look much better, but I'll probably just stick to that now

I read that phone players need to be using a controller to play against pc or console players.

Either way the games been shit for years anyway and this is the final nail in the coffin.

 

[Nick]

Hadnt they been giving it away on Game Pass anyway?

 

[AOM]

I read that phone players need to be using a controller to play against pc or console players.

Either way the games been shit for years anyway and this is the final nail in the coffin.

Ahh fair enough.

Was hoping two years of development would be enough to make the step up needed, but looks like Fifa haven't got any competition now, which is pretty bad for everyone

 

[AOM]

Hadnt they been giving it away on Game Pass anyway?

Think so, but at least that was still a full game, rather than some half finished free live service they'll maybe add standard features to further down the line

 

[TomRad85]

Hadnt they been giving it away on Game Pass anyway?

Fifa is on gamepass too. I just loaded up my first game of fifa in about 5 years.

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[Nick]

Fifa is on gamepass too. I just loaded up my first game of fifa in about 5 years.

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It is now, Fifa 21 isn't it? They always put the older games on there.

 

[TomRad85]

It is now, Fifa 21 isn't it? They always put the older games on there.

Thats right yes, Fifa 21. I stopped buying them a few years back as I realised it was ridiculous buying the same game every year, but this gives me the chance without feeling ripped off.

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[covcity4life]

Think so, but at least that was still a full game, rather than some half finished free live service they'll maybe add standard features to further down the line

Thing is loads will download it cos free even fifa fans. It will be lauded a success. But old school players will prob be left with no games as fifa is made for 8 yesr old kids too

 

[AOM]

Thing is loads will download it cos free even fifa fans. It will be lauded a success. But old school players will prob be left with no games as fifa is made for 8 yesr old kids too

Yep, I wouldn't be surprised if it actually makes more money than any previous year.
They've just gone for quantity over quality

 

[covcity4life]

When you take a step back both EA and konami are using gambling to get kids addicted. Crazy parenting

 

[hill83]

When you take a step back both EA and konami are using gambling to get kids addicted. Crazy parenting

It needs a serious looking at by the authorities. It’s literally gambling. Not even disguised.

Not this game specifically. Just these free to play, and even some full price £70 games in general.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Hopefully someone new can come in and see a gap in the market. There used to be loads of football games knocking about.

EA just repackage the same shit every year in whatever they do.

 

[covcity4life]

It needs a serious looking at by the authorities. It’s literally gambling. Not even disguised.

Not this game specifically. Just these free to play, and even some full price £70 games in general.

It's banned in Denmark and Belgium I believe.

 

[AOM]

Hopefully someone new can come in and see a gap in the market. There used to be loads of football games knocking about.

EA just repackage the same shit every year in whatever they do.

Bring back this classic along with the dive/two footed tackle button

 

[hill83]

Bring back this classic along with the dive/two footed tackle button

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Used to love that game. You could setup your own customs leagues. We'd have about 8 of us round my mates house pretty much every day.

 

[AOM]

Used to love that game. You could setup your own customs leagues. We'd have about 8 of us round my mates house pretty much every day.

Haha yeah was great. And having to make your way up from playing on a school field in sunday league to the premiership

 

[shmmeee]

Bring this badboy back:

 

[Liquid Gold]

Remember this mad man. The camera used to rotate when you got anywhere near the goal

 

[shmmeee]

On topic, it does look shite but if they’re going to open it up a bit and allow the community to mod it it could get quite interesting. I imagine competing with FIFA is a nightmare because of the licensing. I know the that’s what’s kept me away from PES (I just want to pretend I’m CCFC)

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Bring back this classic along with the dive/two footed tackle button

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Reminds me of this legendary classic

 

[AOM]

On topic, it does look shite but if they’re going to open it up a bit and allow the community to mod it it could get quite interesting. I imagine competing with FIFA is a nightmare because of the licensing. I know the that’s what’s kept me away from PES (I just want to pretend I’m CCFC)

They've recently been able to scalp some pretty big licenses from Fifa.
So much so that some Fifa teams have been given the "Rome Reds" treatment, but yeah, I think they've realised they can't compete in the same market, so now are going for more of a Fortnitey mobile service that will make millions on microtransations and DLC.

Their marketing has also always been absolutely shite, so wouldn't be surprised if there is news out later in the year that makes it look more appealing

 

[TomRad85]

This was probably my favourite outside of ISS (PES) and FIFA.

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[covcity4life]

I have a feeling modding may be thing of past now for pes

 

[Frostie]

I have a feeling modding may be thing of past now for pes

Agreed, think they've thrown away one of their biggest USPs there.

I just can't see this being a success at all & it appears that they've now admitted it won't even be next gen (think it was fairly obvious from the graphics/trailer anyway). I imagine they'll get loads of downloads initially as it's free but with very little modes & substandard quality throughout the player base will die off very, very quickly.

Standard Konami shooting themselves in the foot I'm afraid.

 

[Skybluefaz]

Used to love that game. You could setup your own customs leagues. We'd have about 8 of us round my mates house pretty much every day.

Joke that you can't set up custom online leagues with mates on fifa.

 

[Skybluefaz]

Also it's such a shame there have been no console management sims for years. I know FM has a version coming to xbox. I'm talking more about the games made for console like LMA manager back in the day and premier manager, player manager etc

 

[Liquid Gold]

Loved LMA manager and building up your stadium

 

[Skybluefaz]

Loved LMA manager and building up your stadium

It hit a real sweetspot for a while between being statty and realistic enough with the fun Stadium building more arcadey stuff you need on a console. Such a shame Codemasters gave it up.

 

[Skybluefaz]

Online FIFA lounge & tournament generator

Decent web app for creating FIFA tournaments with your friends online. There were a few bugs thelast time I used it but I think it's the best tool of it's type.