sacking managers (2 Viewers)

[Mary_Mungo_Midge]

For purposes of clarity, could I remind you that Doncaster sacked Sean O'Driscoll early last season, and brought in Dean Saunders - who then took them down. O'Driscoll, of course, then joined the tactically inept Steve Cotterill at Forest, and was key in turning their season around. So whereas it worked for Norwich, Doncaster - for example - got relegated and have, in my view, a worse manager then they started last season with

 

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[Grendel]

For p
urposes of clarity, could I remind you that Doncaster sacked Sean O'Driscoll early last season, and brought in Dean Saunders - who then took them down. O'Driscoll, of course, then joined the tactically inept Steve Cotterill at Forest, and was key in turning their season around. So whereas it worked for Norwich, Doncaster - for example - got relegated and have, in my view, a worse manager then they started last season with

O'Driscoll left because of his refusal to participate in the ghastly mackay project something you and certain others endorsed.

He is an example of the positive impact a manager can make on a team.

 

[Mary_Mungo_Midge]

O'Driscoll left because of his refusal to participate in the ghastly mackay project something you and certain others endorsed.

He is an example of the positive impact a manager can make on a team.

Double no. In fact make that triple no. Sorry to be so forthright at lunchtime, but I'll try not to upset your constitution by giving you a lesson in factual history.

O'Driscoll was sacked after taking just one point from Doncaster's first seven games. The McKay scheme was administered under Saunders subsequent tenure.

I didn't not support it totally, but it did bring better players to the table - at little cost - that Doncaster could not otherwise have afforded. When we were only able to sign two inexperienced and unproven players, they were able to call upon proven Premiership-class players. the point I made, and still believe, was that if Thorn were allowed to bring in the big-four players Doncaster did, atop our loan signings, would we have stayed up? I believe so. It was in this context I offered qualified support to the notion of lateral thinking. You can check back if you wish.

Yes, a manager can make such an impact. An assistant coach can make such an impact. Both Cotterill and O'Driscoll also pinpointed to the plethora of loans they were able to introduce in January making an impact. So, the acted with loan sisgnings and coaching support. Meanwhile, we did practically nothing. The 'impact' you elude to was multifaceted, as I'm sure you really know.

Try and still enjoy your Pringles though

Edited to add that I am aware that O'Driscoll refused to work with McKay - we've discussed that one before - but it was his poor form, not said refusal that had him shown the door; just in case you;'re trotting out old excuses that didn't work first time, Grenduffy...

 

[shy_tall_knight]

Since relegation when have we got a manager who is actually in employment and paid compensation for ?. I think Booth was the only one, we have gone for the cheap option everytime.

Roland - was currently at the club - has done well since
Garry Mc - Player Manager 2 for the price of 1
Eric Black - already at the club, has done well since as a number 2
Reid - a former manager who was out of work and on the way down
Adams - also out of work and on the way down
Dowie - again out of work and never done anything sice in management
Coleman - although was out of work, he was seen to be a quality manager following his job at Fulham, again has done nothing since
AB the only manager we paid compensation for, has found his level in Div 4

Lots of managers, often the cheap option rarely have any of the managers gone on to do well after leaving Cov, evidence that they were poor choices.

 

[stupot07]

£500m for Holt? Lambert DID have a lot of money to spend! I don't think Chelsea, PSG & Man City spent that much combined!

£500k is a huge amount of money for a league one side.

 

[stupot07]

Norwich granted are far more cash rich than us.....however they got a lot of money for Dean Ashton let's not forget.......we have got nowehere near that in money coming in.....in fact most of ours left for free after eating up large salaries........Westwood, Crainie, Clingan, Eastwood, King.....to name but a few!

I repeat how long was it before Gunn was sacked and Lambert came in and transformed Norwich??? I think ten games is long enough on top of the number of pre-season friendlies we are playing personally.

I still think we'll do all right come the start of the season....bloody hope so anyway!!

They sold Ashton in Jan 2006 and spend more than half of that transfer fee on Earnshaw and Etuhu. That money was well gone before they were in League One. The fact they get over 20k per game and are a well run club makes a huge different.

I do agree that we don't maximise transfer fee's and as much as I didn't want keogh to go, we shouldn't be allowing anyone to leave for nothing again, unless it's beneficial to the club to do so.