Ccfcisparks
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Will you admit Robins has been a success?
Londonccfcfan
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Seriously who cares what he thinks. He's loving this. This is his life.
Grendel
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the whole forum saw you bottle it - big talk then when it gets down to it it’s a eunuch
COV
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Was just gonna say- he loves the attention
Grendel
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you clearly do
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT
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Londonccfcfan
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This forum wouldn't be the same without your opinion tbh and everyone's else's. Glad we don't think the same.
Ridiculing others opinions is a bit low life. That's where the line is drawn. Seriously your no expert but I do do respect it.
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Well, I thought Grendel and Danny Thomas were only kept away from wrestling naked in front of an open fire by Covid restrictions.
There's still time, I guess but... not looking promising.
There's still time, I guess but... not looking promising.
Calista
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To be more exact, you said "He looks utterly hopeless to me. Too slow both physically and mentally, and clumsy to boot."
Fair enough though for acknowledging how well he's playing now. But you weren't alone and there might not be enough pie to go around. Here's a few more quotes about Gyokores from the Sky Blues Talk school of talent spotting.
"He's so cumbersome. I cannot stand Baka but rather have him"
"Useless"
"Another classic waste of budget"
"Looked like he had his shoes on the wrong feet"
"He's not very good is he"
"I think we can safely say we won't be looking to bring him back next season"
"Absolutely woeful player"
" … slow, touch is poor, movement is poor and wins very little in the air."
"He's very poor, thank fuck he's only a loan"
and (always nice when someone expresses an opinion on behalf of everybody else!)
"Let’s be honest, this guy is entirely forgettable, and if he signed somewhere else tomorrow, not a single one of us would care"
Viktor has shown a lot of promise from day one IMO, but had all his strengths ignored and got slaughtered for any errors. Luckily you can't get someone like him down, he's like Tigger.
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skybluetony176
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I like Micky Adams but by what yardstick have you come to that conclusion? Win ratio? No. Titles? No. Wembley finals? No. Promotions? No. I think we’ve ran out of yardsticks.
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Highest league position.
COV
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To be more exact, you said "He looks utterly hopeless to me. Too slow both physically and mentally, and clumsy to boot."
Fair enough though for acknowledging how well he's playing now. But you weren't alone and there might not be enough pie to go around. Here's a few more quotes about Gyokores from the Sky Blues Talk school of talent spotting.
"He's so cumbersome. I cannot stand Baka but rather have him"
"Useless"
"Another classic waste of budget"
"Looked like he had his shoes on the wrong feet"
"He's not very good is he"
"I think we can safely say we won't be looking to bring him back next season"
"Absolutely woeful player"
" … slow, touch is poor, movement is poor and wins very little in the air."
"He's very poor, thank fuck he's only a loan"
and (always nice when someone expresses an opinion on behalf of everybody else!)
"Let’s be honest, this guy is entirely forgettable, and if he signed somewhere else tomorrow, not a single one of us would care"
Viktor has shown a lot of promise from day one IMO, but had all his strengths ignored and got slaughtered for any errors. Luckily you can't get someone like him down, he's like Tigger.
kind of sums it up- one minute he’s written off as hopeless, the next it’s the best performance in years. Clueless knee jerk stuff, one extreme to the other.
and that last one has to be Saddlebrains- he always says that- “let’s be honest”
Ccfcisparks
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Ahem
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Match Thread - U23s v Charlton
To play where? If we wanted to try a system with wingers, sure we could use him but he's the only natural winger available now so it's square pegs in round holes on the other side. As an option at cam of off the front
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skybluetony176
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8 more points than last season and with an established championship team rather than what was essentially a bloated league one team. Again, I like Micky but if you were to suggest that Micky at his peak of managerial ability for us would have done as well last season as MR did with the same team I just wouldn’t buy it.
Grendel
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The thread for those to reflect on rash, negative posts that they have made this season about the players and Robins. Feel free to confess your sins or allow others to nominate you.
ill start by nominating Grendel wanting Robins replaced by Jacket. Feel free Grendel to admit the error of your ways
Id imagine you will be eating plenty of it unless you can prove Tommy Robinson hacked your account in the last 24 hours
Brighton Sky Blue
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I like how the humble pie thread has descended into people saying they never ordered it
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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To be honest he had more points and finished higher so yeah - doesn’t matter if they were established, if I recall we survived by the skin of our teeth by beating Derby 6-2 last home game of the previous season.
so yeah - technically Adams is our most successfully manager in the last 20 years given that he finished 28th in the English pyramid, but also on the metric you’d argue Strachan was (19th in the prem) I get the point Grendel was making.
pretty sure Robins spent more money than Adams aswell achieving that position
In terms of raw success (trophies and promotions) Robins is arguably our most successful manager ever
letsallsingtogether
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Really the shameful comments about Biamou on here was a disgrace.
No matter how he played he was blamed for every loss, when you have a hatred for someone you just never let go or give credit.
Funny how he was a member along with Robins in the team that has been our most successful for over a decade.
From promotion to keeping us in the Championship.
PUSB.
Sorry but I wont appologise for liking all of our team.
Think we'd have to examine the financial spend on the basis of the second last sentence.
From memory turnover was around £11M
Wages around £14M and spend was circa £22M. But without checking it might be for a different year , of course we had Wise that season or half of it and no doubt would have got promoted had he joined us fit in that summer.
COV
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I agree- we all know his limitations but the way he’s been turned into a total pariah & written off as if he was utter garbage, it’s just attention seeking really.
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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It’s more how far you want to determine success - 8th in the championship is our highest league finish since we dropped from the premier league. Technically making Adams the most successful in the last 20 years
im In the camp that looks at what’s been won for me the clubs most successful managers read:
Sillett - Won our sole major honour
Hill - Took us from bottom to top flight
Robins - Bottom to 2nd division, and a checkatrade - get us promoted to the prem he jumped to 2nd
as Grendel has eluded to in the past - winning in the 4th division doesn’t make you a better manager than say someone who kept us up in the top flight
COV
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don’t understand how Adams can be our most successful manager in the last 20 years and Robins be our most successful manager ever
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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COV
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Heresy to say it, but if by some miracle Robins got us promoted he’d be number one, even better than Hill.
COV
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so which is it- Adams or Robins?
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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COV
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but what is your metric?
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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Personal metric is quantity, I was just saying I see what Grendel was saying.
Robins for me is 3rd most successful manager for the club. He’s had 2 lower league promotions and 1 minor trophy, doesn’t make him more successful or better than Sillet’s FA Cup
no manager has given us a higher league position than Adams in the past 20 years
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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Then again, Cantwell didn’t win trophies but he took us into Europe. Could also be argued to be more successful than Robins and Hill