Racist remark towards a coventry player (2 Viewers)

[Sky Blue Pete]

Behave. I'm on a post full of people on their high horses showing outrage at a person who directed discriminatory abuse towards another person.
Wait for it...........Then one of our posters directs discrimatory abuse towards another person and it's gets brushed to one side because 'he's a straighforward guy who said sorry'.
It stinks mate, and you're making me the bad guy for standing up to it, correct?!
What the fuck???!!!

What more do you need from hill now? I’ve seen a humble and contrite apology that he’d got this wrong

 

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[Deleted member 5849]

So, Dabo ….

Big show of support is needed

Yup

 

[Bugsy]

Link some of that up to this maybe.

Or





To D A and B O.

Imagine the fun we can have with that

....PUSB

 

[Greggs]

What more do you need from hill now? I’ve seen a humble and contrite apology that he’d got this wrong

I'm not quoting Hill. I'm replying to people supporting his actions. The ones sitting on their high horses complaining about racism. It's bizarre.

 

[Joy Division]

I'm very confused here.

That very much appears to be the case.

Anyway, Dabo

 

[Joy Division]

The ones sitting on their high horses complaining about racism. It's bizarre.

On a post about one of our players being racially abused. Yeah, weird that.

 

[Greggs]

That very much appears to be the case.

Anyway, Dabo

No, fuck this. I want you to explain. Why are you angry at me for standing up to discrimination? Isn't that the point of this fucking thread? Making it all about me? Would you say that if i was offended by a racist comment? Man up and answer me if you're gonna question my integrity.

 

[Greggs]

On a post about one of our players being racially abused. Yeah, weird that.

so to abuse a disabled person is ok and i'm a bad person for pointing it out?! Have a word, clown.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I'm not quoting Hill. I'm replying to people supporting his actions. The ones sitting on their high horses complaining about racism. It's bizarre.

I’m on the radio in a bit talking about it. My wife has just said to me that people are entitled to hold different opinions to mine. Ffs but I think she’s correct. So this person who’s done a nazi salute and the other shouting racist abuse are just after attention. There are many many people who hold intolerant views about others and as someone has put above we need to get to the point where all discrimination is unacceptable. So it’s important that we engage with our friend and families and people on here to disarm and educate not belittle and ban. Within reason obviously

There’s not one person on here who thinks the word he used is an acceptable word to use and when hill made the mistake he accepted it wasnt acceptable.

It doesn’t define hill. I’m more respectful of him for saying I got it wrong and apologised. It’s probably better to say ok isn’t it?

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

I’m on the radio in a bit talking about it. My wife has just said to me that people are entitled to hold different opinions to mine. Ffs but I think she’s correct. So this person who’s done a nazi salute and the other shouting racist abuse are just after attention. There are many many people who hold intolerant views about others and as someone has put above we need to get to the point where all discrimination is unacceptable. So it’s important that we engage with our friend and families and people on here to disarm and educate not belittle and ban. Within reason obviously

There’s not one person on here who thinks the word he used is an acceptable word to use and when hill made the mistake he accepted it wasnt acceptable.

It doesn’t define hill. I’m more respectful of him for saying I got it wrong and apologised. It’s probably better to say ok isn’t it?

What station you on Pete?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

so to abuse a disabled person is ok and i'm a bad person for pointing it out?! Have a word, clown.

To be clear that’s not what he’s saying no. He’s saying on this occasion accept the apology and lets talk about Dabo

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

What station you on Pete?

No please don’t listen. There’s no rational or successful answer to the issue and I’ll sound like an arse

Anyway Cwr at 5:15

 

[Greggs]

I’m on the radio in a bit talking about it. My wife has just said to me that people are entitled to hold different opinions to mine. Ffs but I think she’s correct. So this person who’s done a nazi salute and the other shouting racist abuse are just after attention. There are many many people who hold intolerant views about others and as someone has put above we need to get to the point where all discrimination is unacceptable. So it’s important that we engage with our friend and families and people on here to disarm and educate not belittle and ban. Within reason obviously

There’s not one person on here who thinks the word he used is an acceptable word to use and when hill made the mistake he accepted it wasnt acceptable.

It doesn’t define hill. I’m more respectful of him for saying I got it wrong and apologised. It’s probably better to say ok isn’t it?

But because he's a 'nice' bloke it's ok? The guy who shouted at Dabo might have had lots of mates that'll forgive him too. Fucking hypocrites the lot of ya. Fuck off

 

[Greggs]

To be clear that’s not what he’s saying no. He’s saying on this occasion accept the apology and lets talk about Dabo

Would you accept the apology from the bloke that called dabo the names?

 

[shmmeee]

Something not mentioned either is the complete lack of Asian players. There’s literally none I’m aware of despite Asian kids being football mad generally. Was listening to a documentary where players were saying they had to be better than the best white players to get a chance at an academy.

Long long way to go in the game.

I reported students 3 times for racist remarks in the academic year just gone. The punishment got downgraded each time because the parents complained that 'it was an inside joke' or 'the guy they were talking about was ok with it'.

Casual racism is still racism the last time I checked.

Just found out from my daughter last year a lad in her class spent a day abusing a Jewish student: Holocaust “jokes” nazi salutes, the lot.

Got “a talking to” and “lost ten minutes golden time”. No suspension, no reinforcement to the others students how abhorrent it is.

They’re fucking lucky she’s left the school and I didn’t know about it. I’d have raised hell if I had. Absolutely pathetic response. Apparently similar has happened with use of the N word. In Earlsdon Primary FFS.

We’ve got a long long way to go.

 

[Otis]

No please don’t listen. There’s no rational or successful answer to the issue and I’ll sound like an area

Area?

Typo?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Area?

Typo?

Arse lol

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Something not mentioned either is the complete lack of Asian players. There’s literally none I’m aware of despite Asian kids being football mad generally. Was listening to a documentary where players were saying they had to be better than the best white players to get a chance at an academy.

Long long way to go in the game.


Just found out from my daughter last year a lad in her class spent a day abusing a Jewish student: Holocaust “jokes” nazi salutes, the lot.

Got “a talking to” and “lost ten minutes golden time”. No suspension, no reinforcement to the others students how abhorrent it is.

They’re fucking lucky she’s left the school and I didn’t know about it. I’d have raised hell if I had. Absolutely pathetic response. Apparently similar has happened with use of the N word. In Earlsdon Primary FFS.

We’ve got a long long way to go.

Junior??

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Would you accept the apology from the bloke that called dabo the names?

Course. And I’d chalk it up to they’ve heard that it’s wrong accepted it and are responsible for how they behave from now on and I’m not responsible for how they behave

Would I be happy no!

 

[Joy Division]

so to abuse a disabled person is ok and i'm a bad person for pointing it out?! Have a word, clown.

Nobody has said that is okay you idiot

 

[procdoc]

Something not mentioned either is the complete lack of Asian players. There’s literally none I’m aware of despite Asian kids being football mad generally. Was listening to a documentary where players were saying they had to be better than the best white players to get a chance at an academy.

Long long way to go in the game.


Just found out from my daughter last year a lad in her class spent a day abusing a Jewish student: Holocaust “jokes” nazi salutes, the lot.

Got “a talking to” and “lost ten minutes golden time”. No suspension, no reinforcement to the others students how abhorrent it is.

They’re fucking lucky she’s left the school and I didn’t know about it. I’d have raised hell if I had. Absolutely pathetic response. Apparently similar has happened with use of the N word. In Earlsdon Primary FFS.

We’ve got a long long way to go.

That’s disgusting. It’s stuff like this that probably goes unpunished in most schools. If the educational system isn’t working when it comes to teaching kids the wrongs of discrimination then this country is truly fucked

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

But because he's a 'nice' bloke it's ok? The guy who shouted at Dabo might have had lots of mates that'll forgive him too. Fucking hypocrites the lot of ya. Fuck off

That’s exactly what I’m saying. The ones who the person will listen to are the ones whose Opinions he values. No one has said it’s ok. Don’t tell me to fuck off it’s beneath you

 

[Joy Division]

No, fuck this. I want you to explain. Why are you angry at me for standing up to discrimination? Isn't that the point of this fucking thread? Making it all about me? Would you say that if i was offended by a racist comment? Man up and answer me if you're gonna question my integrity.

I'm not angry at you, I love you dearly.

 

[Greggs]

Nobody has said that is okay you idiot

Can you please clarify why you are angry at me? What exactly have i done to piss you off? Please think about your answer rather than just throw insults.

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

Something not mentioned either is the complete lack of Asian players. There’s literally none I’m aware of despite Asian kids being football mad generally. Was listening to a documentary where players were saying they had to be better than the best white players to get a chance at an academy.

Long long way to go in the game.

Yan Dhanda, Hamza Choudary, Neil Taylor and Mal Benning are the only ones that come to mind in the football league, it’s pretty pitiful.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

That’s disgusting. It’s stuff like this that probably goes unpunished in most schools. If the educational system isn’t working when it comes to teaching kids the wrongs of discrimination then this country is truly fucked

Sounds more like the parents are to blame and the schools second. But yep societal problem

 

[TomRad85]

Something not mentioned either is the complete lack of Asian players. There’s literally none I’m aware of despite Asian kids being football mad generally. Was listening to a documentary where players were saying they had to be better than the best white players to get a chance at an academy.

Long long way to go in the game.


Just found out from my daughter last year a lad in her class spent a day abusing a Jewish student: Holocaust “jokes” nazi salutes, the lot.

Got “a talking to” and “lost ten minutes golden time”. No suspension, no reinforcement to the others students how abhorrent it is.

They’re fucking lucky she’s left the school and I didn’t know about it. I’d have raised hell if I had. Absolutely pathetic response. Apparently similar has happened with use of the N word. In Earlsdon Primary FFS.

We’ve got a long long way to go.

I've always found the lack of Asian professionals a little odd. Maybe just maybe, none have been good enough. Why would Asians be discriminated against more than black kids, for example?

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[Sky Blue Pete]

I've always found the lack of Asian professionals a little odd. Maybe just maybe, none have been good enough. Why would Asians be discriminated against more than black kids, for example?

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Without a rational explanation they clearly are so it’s to work out why and what steps need to be put in place to rectify it

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Yan Dhanda, Hamza Choudary, Neil Taylor and Mal Benning are the only ones that come to mind in the football league, it’s pretty pitiful.

Chopra

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Would you accept the apology from the bloke that called dabo the names?

I might regret this...

But, you know those footballers, cricketers etc who get pulled up for racist, homophobic tweets etc they sent in the past? If they apologise and make clear they're against racism / homophobia / whatever then yes, it's probably worthwhile giving them the benefit of the doubt. If you said something to offend me, personally, and you apologised for it then yes, I would accept it... My general philosophy is we will all say things that offend somebody, it's how we respond to that, that matters. If it's a fuck you, it's my right to say that don't be such a snowflake then it's no holds barred in response. If, however, it's a recognition of offence and an attempt to change behaviours, then that's righting a wrong.

Now, apologies if this comes out wrong but...

Might it not be a good idea to start a thread in off-topic about the kind of regular discrimination your neice gets, and how it affects her, her family... you? It would be useful to draw attention to that, wouldn't it? Make us all think about what we say, and do? As it stands, all that happens is you're maybe not being able to get people to see what she has to put up with, and also it ends up derailing a point where we should all be agreeing that racism is bad, yes?

Doesn't your neice's discrimination deserve its own space, rather than as an adjunct to something else?

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I've always found the lack of Asian professionals a little odd. Maybe just maybe, none have been good enough. Why would Asians be discriminated against more than black kids, for example?

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Apparently there is a racial bias in scouts, a misconception that they aren’t as good physically

 

[TomRad85]

Without a rational explanation they clearly are so it’s to work out why and what steps need to be put in place to rectify it

What do you recommend. Shall we stick a useless kid in the team just to make sure we aren't part of the problem? It makes no sense.

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[Skybluefaz]

I've always found the lack of Asian professionals a little odd. Maybe just maybe, none have been good enough. Why would Asians be discriminated against more than black kids, for example?

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Nah, I think this is more a cultural issue tbh in terms of making more reliable career choices than risking it trying to be a footballer. I might be way off the mark but it's my perception.

 

[fatso]

Thank you - I didnt know whether to respond to this thread or not
I have a family member with cerebral palsy and to imply she is a lesser human being because of her disability is hurtful to say the least
I wish the words racist, sexist, homophobic didnt even need to exist
Taking the knee and those who boo it just goes to prove that it still needs to be done
Any 'ism should be condemned without equivocation

How do you stand on islamism?

 

[TomRad85]

Nah, I think this is more a cultural issue tbh in terms of making more reliable career choices than risking it trying to be a footballer. I might be way off the mark but it's my perception.

Tend to agree. My wife is a private tutor, most of her students are Asian and I can guarantee their parents would push them away from sport and towards education... and they aren't necessarily wrong to do so.

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