Racist remark towards a coventry player (20 Viewers)

[Evo1883]

Tell you what

I used to be on the wrong side of this argument , I genuinely did .
People know me I say exactly what I think on here and rarely leave my feelings in my head where I should .

It actually took me to be in a stadium , watching our black and mixed race players line up and hearing some boos and I actually felt sorry for them because its ridiculous in all honesty .

I said I would sit back sip my coffee and eventually it would go away ... when actually at blackpool I found myself clapping and cheering when they took the knee .

Then this happens to dabo and for some reason it became more real to me , and that's because its now close to home , a player I idolise who wears sky blue .. suddenly its all a bit different ... such a good, hard working model professional being made to feel like shit , being made to feel like a second class citizen and that's not on

No point being fake , no point carrying on the charade to fit in with your mates and their opinions ... just back them


And listen , I had a fucking horrendous upbringing, and I'm constantly learning in this wonderful thing called life .. I'm.about to inbox dubed and apologise ... we are all human PUSB .

@hill83 , il fucking fight them with you mate we've both got nimble feet

 

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[Torquay Sky Blue]

Id imagine for players black lads are more likely to suffer from positive racism as well “big strong powerful” etc.

It’s not all racism, lots of cultural reasons why Asian kids don’t go into sport as well. But those that do feel they have serious barriers to overcome.

I remember an Asian kid in my sons football year and probably one of if not the best player in Cov at the time. He was overlooked by the academy and ended up at Cov boys as did James Collins funnily enough. I think he became a doctor so not a bad career move.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Tell you what

I used to be on the wrong side of this argument , I genuinely did .
People know me I say exactly what I think on here and rarely leave my feelings in my head where I should .

It actually took me to be in a stadium , watching our black and mixed race players line up and hearing some boos and I actually felt sorry for them because its ridiculous in all honesty .

I said I would sit back sip my coffee and eventually it would go away ... when actually at blackpool I found myself clapping and cheering when they took the knee .

Then this happens to dabo and for some reason it became more real to me , and that's because its now close to home , a player I idolise who wears sky blue .. suddenly its all a bit different ... such a good, hard working model professional being made to feel like shit , being made to feel like a second class citizen and that's not on

No point being fake , no point carrying on the charade to fit in with your mates and their opinions ... just back them


And listen , I had a fucking horrendous upbringing, and I'm constantly learning in this wonderful thing called life .. I'm.about to inbox dubed and apologise ... we are all human PUSB .

@hill83 , il fucking fight them with you mate we've both got nimble feet

Fair fucking play to you

 

[Skybluefaz]

They just don't have the infrastructure over there, combined with the fact that cricket is the national sport. Football is hugely popular as a spectacle I believe, but there is next to no actual footballing infrastructure to take advantage of it.

Was speaking to a Chinese lad on my level one. Being able to do that was a big reason he was studying over here. They don't have anything like that in China so I suppose when you don't even have the most basic level of coaching you aren't going to churn out many decent footballers.

 

[blunted]

The lack of asian footballers is strange. Having been involved in grass roots football most of my life there were never many Asian lads in the local teams. There are a few teams that contain all Asian lads. Maybe asian lads don’t feel like they’d be included in dressing rooms or on team nights out because of their differing culture? This is pure speculation as I’ve never spoken to anyone as to why this is the case.
Scouts aren’t out watching all-Asian teams unfortunately so they may not even spot the players with loads of potential. It’s a very interesting, multi faceted conversation that probably deserves a thread of its own to be honest

Up Coundon Park there are specialist days where all Asian teams play each other and there are shit loads of teams. A majority of my Asian friends never did sport after school and supported Man U or Arsenal when the Gunners were good. Two are regular mad Cov fans. When I played Sunday league (long time ago) there were no Asian players but loads of Asians at school. The black kids who played were few and far between but usually really good. I wonder if its an integration thing. Also sport being a way out for black kids but the professions the answer for Asian kids. Crass generalisation, I know. The Asian kids all went to specialist Desi all dayers while the white kids went to pubs and clubs. The black kids in my street were going out when we were going home. Specialist Asian religious Academies have not helped. If the Asian community was fully integrated it would help, but they are still somewhat together apart if that makes sense.

 

[blunted]

Worth putting in to Ofsted that.

I think you would be shocked how much racist right wing recruiters exist in the (so called) sink estates in Coventry. The free Tommy Robinson graffitti didn't appear out of thin air. It is a serious child protection issue.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Also, fuck Millwall away. Not giving money to that pond life.

 

[blunted]

Tell you what

I used to be on the wrong side of this argument , I genuinely did .
People know me I say exactly what I think on here and rarely leave my feelings in my head where I should .

It actually took me to be in a stadium , watching our black and mixed race players line up and hearing some boos and I actually felt sorry for them because its ridiculous in all honesty .

I said I would sit back sip my coffee and eventually it would go away ... when actually at blackpool I found myself clapping and cheering when they took the knee .

Then this happens to dabo and for some reason it became more real to me , and that's because its now close to home , a player I idolise who wears sky blue .. suddenly its all a bit different ... such a good, hard working model professional being made to feel like shit , being made to feel like a second class citizen and that's not on

No point being fake , no point carrying on the charade to fit in with your mates and their opinions ... just back them


And listen , I had a fucking horrendous upbringing, and I'm constantly learning in this wonderful thing called life .. I'm.about to inbox dubed and apologise ... we are all human PUSB .

@hill83 , il fucking fight them with you mate we've both got nimble feet

I remember the days when bananas were thrown at Cyril Regis and NF recruiters that were stopping everyone when I went away to Elland Road.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I think you would be shocked how much racist right wing recruiters exist in the (so called) sink estates in Coventry. The free Tommy Robinson graffitti didn't appear out of thin air. It is a serious child protection issue.

Probably not in Earlsdon though.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Tell you what

I used to be on the wrong side of this argument , I genuinely did .
People know me I say exactly what I think on here and rarely leave my feelings in my head where I should .

It actually took me to be in a stadium , watching our black and mixed race players line up and hearing some boos and I actually felt sorry for them because its ridiculous in all honesty .

I said I would sit back sip my coffee and eventually it would go away ... when actually at blackpool I found myself clapping and cheering when they took the knee .

Then this happens to dabo and for some reason it became more real to me , and that's because its now close to home , a player I idolise who wears sky blue .. suddenly its all a bit different ... such a good, hard working model professional being made to feel like shit , being made to feel like a second class citizen and that's not on

No point being fake , no point carrying on the charade to fit in with your mates and their opinions ... just back them


And listen , I had a fucking horrendous upbringing, and I'm constantly learning in this wonderful thing called life .. I'm.about to inbox dubed and apologise ... we are all human PUSB .

@hill83 , il fucking fight them with you mate we've both got nimble feet

Brilliant

 

[Greggs]

Why because he has a disabled family member and finds the word spastic disgusting as do I.
as has been said previously all forms of discrimination are out of order but some on here are either very two faced or just like the attention of playing for the current political side but dont practice what they preach.

In his defense, he was being cool. The rest can do one. Cheers though pal. Plenty on here taking the side of the geezer chucking vile stuff about but throwing shit at the guy offended. Bizarre behaviour. But lot's on here don't have their own minds and follow popular opinions.

 

[BornSlippySkyBlue]

Without a rational explanation they clearly are so it’s to work out why and what steps need to be put in place to rectify it

From attending football coaching with my son for the last ~8 years, I would estimate that there are at least 30% south Asian kids on those courses. It puzzles me how that hasn’t (yet?) translated into representation within the professional game. I’d guess that in 5-10 years there will be more as 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants grow up in our country and do ‘the things we do’.

There’s no obvious difference in ability across the different ethic groups that I can tell at that level. I expect the reasons are multi-faceted, but given that racism has always been a thing in football, and given that it hasn’t prevented black players from breaking through, I assume if the kids are good enough they will get the chance. I’m not sure there are many (any?) clubs that would watch a brilliant Asian kid and turn him down because of his ethnicity. Just doesn’t make sense.

Asian kids are getting more and more into football, they will make a difference.

 

[skyblu3sk]

Language is a real thing to keep up with if I think back to my childhood we knew a lot of the racist terms where bad however a lot of kids called things gay and the term queer was something you didn't use. In terms of spastic there was a charity named after it for part of the time I was growing up. Its all about keeping up with what is acceptable and what isn't. Formerly known as the Spastics Society - BBC News

 

[Greggs]

Tell you what

I used to be on the wrong side of this argument , I genuinely did .
People know me I say exactly what I think on here and rarely leave my feelings in my head where I should .

It actually took me to be in a stadium , watching our black and mixed race players line up and hearing some boos and I actually felt sorry for them because its ridiculous in all honesty .

I said I would sit back sip my coffee and eventually it would go away ... when actually at blackpool I found myself clapping and cheering when they took the knee .

Then this happens to dabo and for some reason it became more real to me , and that's because its now close to home , a player I idolise who wears sky blue .. suddenly its all a bit different ... such a good, hard working model professional being made to feel like shit , being made to feel like a second class citizen and that's not on

No point being fake , no point carrying on the charade to fit in with your mates and their opinions ... just back them


And listen , I had a fucking horrendous upbringing, and I'm constantly learning in this wonderful thing called life .. I'm.about to inbox dubed and apologise ... we are all human PUSB .

@hill83 , il fucking fight them with you mate we've both got nimble feet

Regarding the last comment, it makes your whole paragraph of drivel null and void. You're supporting and 'fighting with' somebody that has deeply offended people by making a discriminatory comment. Hypocrisy at its finest. Very strange behaviour.

 

[Otis]

Regarding the last comment, it makes your whole paragraph of drivel null and void. You're supporting and 'fighting with' somebody that has deeply offended people by making a discriminatory comment. Hypocrisy at its finest. Very strange behaviour.

He means racists doesn't he?

 

[Greggs]

He means racists doesn't he?

WHAT IS THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE? DISCRIMINATION IS DISCRIMINATION!! ARe you winding me up?

 

[Evo1883]

Regarding the last comment, it makes your whole paragraph of drivel null and void. You're supporting and 'fighting with' somebody that has deeply offended people by making a discriminatory comment. Hypocrisy at its finest. Very strange behaviour.

You've offended me now .

Say sorry

Infact

Say sorry , I'm a twat

 

[procdoc]

When do the schools reopen because this is beyond childish now

 

[Otis]

WHAT IS THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE? DISCRIMINATION IS DISCRIMINATION!! ARe you winding me up?

No. What's wrong with him saying he will stand up to racists?

 

[rob9872]

I think a lot of this could all be solved quite quickly simply by a few of those who commented on what Greggs did or didn't feel by simply apologising to him. They don't have to agree and can't know what he feels the same as white people posting on racism really. For the sake of moving things forward, a few lines of type. Go on, stop petty point scoring, it won't kill you, I promise.

 

[Greggs]

No. What's wrong with him saying he will stand up to racists?

because he condones and 'fights with' the discrimination of disabled people. Clown

 

[procdoc]

because he condones and 'fights with' the discrimination of disabled people. Clown

Where did he say that?

 

[Greggs]

Where did he say that?

Read the last sentence of his post. Imagine if a person called someone a racist name, - would they stand and fight with them?! Wow!!!

 

[Otis]

because he condones and 'fights with' the discrimination of disabled people. Clown

He doesn't though does he.

Hill said it in the heat of the moment and he was wrong and he apologised. I hate that word too. We all know Hill has black heritage. He didn't know about the disability in your family. That's not excusing it by any means though.

 

[procdoc]

Read the last sentence of his post. Imagine if a person called someone a racist name, - would they stand and fight with them?! Wow!!!

Reading it I don’t think he’s condoning anything. He’s tagged Hill and made a comment about fighting racists. I don’t think he’s referencing the horrid comment Hill made

 

[Greggs]

He doesn't though does he.

Hill said it in the heat of the moment and he was wrong and he apologised. I hate that word too. We all know Hill has black heritage. He didn't know about the disability in your family. That's not excusing it by any means though.

He read enough to know what's going on in the this post. Don't justify him. Bizarre acceptance of discriminatory behaviour on a post about discrimination! WOw!

 

[Greggs]

Reading it I don’t think he’s condoning anything. He’s tagged Hill and made a comment about fighting racists. I don’t think he’s referencing the horrid comment Hill made

bull shit, look at his passive aggressive reply. He knew what he was saying.

 

[Evo1883]

Read the last sentence of his post. Imagine if a person called someone a racist name, - would they stand and fight with them?! Wow!!!

Il stand and fight with you too against discrimination of disabled people greggs ..

But I have to ask the question , is it all really about you wanting me and hill to fight ...disgusting behaviour , strange

The banter King suddenly lost his banter

 

[Otis]

He read enough to know what's going on in the this post. Don't justify him. Bizarre acceptance of discriminatory behaviour on a post about discrimination! WOw!

Not trying to justify him.

 

[skyblu3sk]

Greggs you are simply reading a narrative that isn't there. You are choosing to interpret it in a bad way to keep up your angst. Give it a rest.

 

[Otis]

Reading it I don’t think he’s condoning anything. He’s tagged Hill and made a comment about fighting racists. I don’t think he’s referencing the horrid comment Hill made

Exactly this.

 

[hill83]

Without wanting to fall down the route of "I've got black friends" I'm a literal carer at the match for my disable dad.

 

[COV]

because he condones and 'fights with' the discrimination of disabled people. Clown

now its obvious you're on the wind up.

 

[Evo1883]

Without wanting to fall down the route of "I've got black friends" I'm a literal carer at the match for my disable dad.

Me too strangely

 

[procdoc]

Greggs I don’t think Otis is accepting discrimination. I’m not either. I thought Hills comment was insensitive and disgusting and making it he devalued his original argument. He has since apologised and admitted he shouldn’t have made the comment, his apology seemed genuine enough to me as he’s not really a confrontational poster on here