Ccfcisparks
Well-Known Member
I remember Luton got 30 points before. Was that more severe than this?
Derby points deduction (15 Viewers)
- Thread starter Sky Blue Pete
- Start date
fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
Sky Blue Harry H
Well-Known Member
Good news for Forest and others fighting relegation. Think their fans will finally be glad to know what's happening.
Evo1883
Well-Known Member
Well , 1 of the promoted teams are guaranteed safety now .. almost like last year
It's that the issue of the accounts and nine points surfaced last season.
shepardo01
Well-Known Member
There's talk on their forum that the "application" for administration triggers a clause related to a company, MSD (or something- related to stadium ownership) meaning that they automatically take over the club and administration may be avoided....
Sounds very dodgy and contrived.....
Sounds very dodgy and contrived.....
SeaSeeEffCee
Well-Known Member
Surely has to be -21 points now and an almost certain relegation.
shepardo01
Well-Known Member
Page 11/12 I think - some possible dodgy transfer of company to avoid admin....
dcfcfans.uk
Notice to appoint administrators
dcfcfans.uk
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
Well-Known Member
The EFL won’t allow that, Southampton and us tried that onePage 11/12 I think - some possible dodgy transfer of company to avoid admin....
Notice to appoint administrators
Tommo1993
Well-Known Member
shepardo01
Well-Known Member
Didn't we do it as part OF the admin.... basically appointed our own admins who sold us back to a differently named sisu derivative. SBS+L to Otium entertainment....
The Derby one looks like (although seems complicated) it triggers a forced change but no admin... although looks like that MSD could still choose to apply for admin to (not sure if this is right words) reduce debt .. ???
robbiethemole
Well-Known Member
The thought of Appleton’s smug fucking face still makes me puke. Shades of Otium buying us out of admin it all fucking stinks
Flying Fokker
Well-Known Member
And we know what a bunch of crooks some club's owners are...
shepardo01
Well-Known Member
....it would be pre-admin... so nothing EFL could do.... but would obviously still have original charges still hanging over them.... the apparent 9pts...
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
Well-Known Member
I thought we tried to argue that CCFC ltd wasn’t the club and that company was going into the club and saints tried it with their holding company.
basically any attempt to avoid the points deduction won’t work
shepardo01
Well-Known Member
Think with ours, Higgs/Council said - we'll put you in admin (not sure how!?).... but (whatever part it was) club said, no we'll do it ourselves, appointed own admins who sold it back to SISU under a different company name, minus the "debt" ???
shepardo01
Well-Known Member
Yeah...doing more reading, seems the "application" triggers the penalty.... but the "charge" in the agreement with MSD (whoever they are) may well see change of ownership without a bidding process???????
shepardo01
Well-Known Member
It does seem like they are trying anything to wiggle out of as much as they can.....
Paul Anthony
Well-Known Member
This the best deal they could negotiate with the EFL, then?
Or is this a case of they negotiated the nine, then managed to negotiate that if they go into admin, call it a flat twelve and forget the nine?
Last edited:
Danceswithhorses
Well-Known Member
BBC Sport 'expert' seems to think it's possible a further 9 points might also be deducted due to 2016/17/18 accounts irregularities.
Pretty much inconsequential though, as they'd be as good as relegated anyway....unless the 9 points is next year.
Pretty much inconsequential though, as they'd be as good as relegated anyway....unless the 9 points is next year.
Last edited:
steve cooper
Well-Known Member
I believe the process being talked about involving MSD is called pre-pack administration.
According to this Gov website, the administration still takes place but the new owners are pre-determined.
www.gov.uk
.
So they can't avoid the administration process as far as I can see.
According to this Gov website, the administration still takes place but the new owners are pre-determined.
Pre-packaged administrations: a review
This review asks whether pre-packaged administrations (pre-packs) are a viable rescue tool or an abuse of the insolvency process.
So they can't avoid the administration process as far as I can see.
SlowerThanPlatt
Well-Known Member
Well they were warned
www.thenorthernecho.co.uk
Steve Gibson vs Mel Morris - the battle that could really shape what happens in the Championship
WHEN Middlesbrough face Derby County at Pride Park this afternoon, the atmosphere on the pitch will be intense. There is a chance, however, that the…
hill83
Well-Known Member
The CableGuy
Well-Known Member
Haven't got that much sympathy for them right now. We stayed up with the 2nd smallest budget in the league, playing 20 miles from a 'home' ground which we get limited income from, even now. We followed the rules along with everyone else apart from Derby. They're moaning about the impact of COVID, so fracking what? Every club has been impacted by that.
If I was Wycombe, I'd be dragging my solictor out of bed first thing tomorrow morning to look at recent events.
If I was Wycombe, I'd be dragging my solictor out of bed first thing tomorrow morning to look at recent events.
robbiethemole
Well-Known Member
SkyBlueMatt
Well-Known Member
Fuck them, they're not going being wound up. They'll get a point deduction but if they manage to stay up, they'll get away with this.
The Derby fans were perfectly happy with the money went they were pushing playoffs. Its bit them on the ass now in this era of money.
You can't piss away money then play the victim when it doesn't work out. We learned that the hard way.
Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk
The Derby fans were perfectly happy with the money went they were pushing playoffs. Its bit them on the ass now in this era of money.
You can't piss away money then play the victim when it doesn't work out. We learned that the hard way.
Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk
Danceswithhorses
Well-Known Member
Yes Lampard, Rooney, Mount, and all those other excellent, top class loanees they brought in....they didn't come cheap.
To think the suicidal financial gamble almost paid off when they lost out 2-1 in the playoff final to Villa (2019), last game of that season.
Terry_dactyl
Well-Known Member
Can’t blame the fans for how the their club is run.
Wyken Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
Martyn Waghorn was a reported £5m signing from Ipswich under Lampard!
skyblueelephant76
Well-Known Member
They are facing a 21 point deduction, they are not going to stay up and get away with it
Derby County set to enter administration and face 12-point penalty amid ongoing financial problems at club
Derby owner Mel Morris has told Sky Sports News he is devastated as the club face administration and a further 12-point deduction to their impending nine-point penalty for breaching financial fair play rules
Terry_dactyl
Well-Known Member
Worth every penny!