You bringing cancer into it is negativity; grow up. He has done little for Coventry and showed nothing last season. Moving on a player like Baker would be good for the club, just as we have done with others
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You bringing cancer into it is negativity; grow up. He has done little for Coventry and showed nothing last season. Moving on a player like Baker would be good for the club, just as we have done with others
steve the boss
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Yep, just what i was thinking, bit sad really, why do such posters bother, are they really City supporters or just the type that find every opportunity to have a swipe at my beloved club, while hoping the club fail to fuel there sad lives. And then if low and behold we succeed they come out of the woodwork and become City's greatest supporters.
And some fans wonder why the team never seems to play with confidence. Telling players they are shit all the time is really going to help their confidence come match day. Sadly some fans are just miserable plebs.
Grendel
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Baker has been paid a lot of money buy the club since signing. He has played 80 games. How many have been good - 5 or 6? Valiant's comment is not subtle but in a crude way is correct.
ccfcdan
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I don't know....My first post of, Your all fucking Wankers! Was both mature and to the point.
steve the boss
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No bullshit from me Sylus, you'll get to now that, but youve already mis quoted me. I didnt have a round of golf with Baker, i dont play golf. Just saw him at the British Par 3 championships and thought i'd do you a favour and stop the speculation.
Nonleagueherewecome
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He was head and shoulders above everyone else in the side, despite his brother dying from leukaemia during that time. He is an absolute legend at that club. And many is the time I've quoted the Stockport fan I heard on Radio 5 saying "there was nothing Carl Baker couldn't do with a football, and he didn't score ordinary goals, they were all absolute screamers". (obviously not including the pens in that!).
He's a player who wears his heart on his sleeve, which means he shows his frustration when he makes a mistake. We usually respond by booing him, and then he has a bad game..
I wonder why he did better at Stockport than here? He's in the same division now in a better team than that he starred for. Hopefully he is more settled now, fit (which he wasn't for most of last season), can feel a little love off our fans for a change-and have a storming season. Don't we all want that?
Without boring this to death. My gripe with Baker was that he would always try to do something complicated and when it didnt work he looked at others as if to blame them. When the ball was lost he wouldnt break sweat to win it back. Obviously i want him and the team to do well, but i feel he needs to win the faith back from fans and deserved some of the stick he got.
But, new season, new start.
But, new season, new start.
steve the boss
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Thanks for the great welcome Matt i'll try to be more negative from now on. See were going to get on fine.
sylus
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Nonleagueherewecome
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I really have no time for those fans who get on players backs all the time. Who does it help? Really? Just stay away please. Take your negativity home with you and stick it up your sad sorry asses! Please, if you wouldn't mind!
But then Ian wouldn't be able to phone up CWR every single week to say "well...what do you think?" before slagging off David Bell!
stupot07
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Of course we do, but my point is he's played CM for them (it think?) so also had a responsibility to the defensive side of the game. They are bound to love him he scored the majority of their 21 goals. Not like our fans that couldn't wait to slate Juke when he left.
The problem is we can't play him, sheff and fleck in the same side at the same time all in the central midfield position - they can't all take penalties and free kicks . if baker plays wide or in the more conventions cm position either side of the diamond then he won't get forward as much as he did for Stockport. Its not as easy as saying "well he scored x at Stockport in league one so he will bang them in for us" I imagine stockports side was built around him, similar to how ours was with Juke - that won't happen here, like Middlesborough for Juke.
Nonleagueherewecome
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Nah, he played in the hole in a 4-4-1-1 behind the striker. Asking him to defend is like asking Sheff to track back-disastrous. AMRC is probably his best role for us, either in a 433 or the 4-1-2-1-2. I think we'll generally pick 2 from Fleck, Sheff and Baker unless one of them is up front (ideally Sheff IMO).
We need a more attacking side out anyway, and should be able to get away with it in this division. Not that I'm writing the standard off.
We need a more attacking side out anyway, and should be able to get away with it in this division. Not that I'm writing the standard off.
steve the boss
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OK Matty no offence taken, i cant stand bullshit though, so you wont get any from me.
Nonleagueherewecome
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Fleck has to be in a free role in the hole rather than wide-right, surely? Getting shunted out wide was a major reason his career stagnated at Rangers ("Who are they? Exactly!" Baker could say..)
Please dont be negative stupot, Samo will start crying again
woody11462
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To be fair you do seemed to have mellowed a little.
BurbageSkyBlues
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Don't understand the negativity and childish animosity of some of our 'supporters' on here. We won't progress as a club or team until we all act as a unit, on and off the pitch.
I suspect that there are a lot of our fans who have walked away because of the mindset of those voiciferous few who are quick to criticise the players, regardless of other factors.
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I suspect that there are a lot of our fans who have walked away because of the mindset of those voiciferous few who are quick to criticise the players, regardless of other factors.
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ccfc92
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Dont worry STB, the true fans are there supporting the team. The people who bring other fans and the club down from afar, just ignore them. PUSB
BurbageSkyBlues
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Agree with you bothDont worry STB, the true fans are there supporting the team. The people who bring other fans and the club down from afar, just ignore them. PUSB
ccfc92
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ccfc92
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No, people who are predicting relegation
Samo
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I'll own up to a little childish animosity, but it's because I find the negativity so hard to stomach. To the likes of Matty, no offence intended, just cheer up ffs! You never know, we might have a great season but if not, there will be plenty of time to express your displeasure!
stupot07
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I must have missed those posts, I don't think we'll be relegated but I don't think it's going to be as easy as quite a few posters seem to think.