I've been to I think 51 now and never seen this.
Or we could settle on a solution that doesn't inconvenience people, put them in danger of an accident or actually increase violence but just not in a way that the club has to report on it.
And if it was a bit cheaper & better quality. Telling people to turn up an hour before kick off to sit in the cold and rain or stand in a cramped concourse drinking expensive beer isn't going to work. Not sure what the solution is as you can't magically create more space on the concourse. Even if you have a fan village type thing in the hall you've still got to come out and queue up to get in.
It's annoying because the stadium must have been designed to accommodate this many people so it must be the way it's managed but of course all we're told is to sort ourselves out instead of them working out why it takes half an hour to get in.
How many entrances are there? Pretty simple test. See how many people per minute you can get through the gate and then divide the expected crowd by the number of gates. Then you know how long it should take to get everyone in and if it takes longer something is wrong somewhere.
Yes they are. Then it needs a steward to get in to show them.
Yep that’s the safety issue for sure
I don’t doubt there’s big queues but how long is it taking to get in? 20000 arriving at 15 mins to kick off will not all get in the ground
I have missed the last two home games, so hopefully it's improved. Worth pointing out one of mine was a 2.15 arrival and got into the ground as we were taking the knee. Understand if it was 2.45 and tight, but noone should expect to have to spend 45 minutes getting into a ground. Most of my mates are Villa fans (boo, hiss) so I go with them every now and then, and a much, bigger stadium, we have rocked up at 2.45 and had zero problem getting into seats for kick off
Spoke to a friend that works on large events. This is called the flow rate and the industry standard is apparently 10 people per minute but 20 people per minute is not unachievable if you're not searching people. Apparently there are 45 turnstiles so, if you assume an even distribution of people, you're looking at 45 minutes to get everyone in with all gates open and a constant flow of people, ie: no 'I can't scan my ticket' issues.
I think you can take them in. We took ours in before the Peterborough game no attempt to hide them and so did everyone else in the queue nothing was said
You’re not listening and I understand the frustration
That's good, they need to get the word out about this then as I didn't buy from them as thought I'd have it taken off me.
Yep on that too
I am listening I just completely disagree with the rationale.
You mean the road outside the east stand? That's always been an accident waiting to happen. Can they not adjust the gate out of the car park onto the A444 so it can also be used as an entrance?
They were closed for Fulham so couldn’t try again
Well you said
They’re on it but football has taken the priority probably. All absolutely fair comments though
Part of the overall discussion about the arena footprint. The police would close it to traffic an hour before if down to them
Well if you are listening stop changing the discussion topics and misreading and misquoting then.
Yep that’s not good or acceptable at all
What am I misquoting?
Why couldn’t they get there? Number of people?
Ignoring the facts that the club are responsible for public order on the footprint so have sought expert opinion to resolve the issue. Lots of other clubs close while roads outside stadiums and you seem to be ignoring this
And there’s no access to car parks?
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