Brexit Benefits (13 Viewers)
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Astute
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You stated they got kicked out.Not doing this shit with you again
Wasn't a truthful statement. Yet it is me again. As it always is when I point out a lie and somebody wants to lie their way out of a lie.
It is shite for us all. But nobody has been kicked out from any country unless they have not kept to the rules. My wife has only just finally managed to get her rendezvous. Those that have come to the UK have had it easy to be able to stay. All this crap has been bad for lots of Brits.
Evo1883
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Il answer it, 20,000 drivers have left the UK, by their own accord according to the RHA
We would still be 80,000 drivers short without them .
So brexit whilst being a reason , isn't the only reason .
We've been through the reasons many times on here - drivers hours - pay - conditions etc .. it also why the whole of Europe have a problem with driver shortages , Poland have a larger shortage than the UK and yet is nowhere near our size .
The Job Is quite simply ...SHIT and doesn't satisfy the modern family man anymore
We would still be 80,000 drivers short without them .
So brexit whilst being a reason , isn't the only reason .
We've been through the reasons many times on here - drivers hours - pay - conditions etc .. it also why the whole of Europe have a problem with driver shortages , Poland have a larger shortage than the UK and yet is nowhere near our size .
The Job Is quite simply ...SHIT and doesn't satisfy the modern family man anymore
If you walk out of your house and your wife doesn't let you back in have you left or have you been kicked out?
Either way you're not coming back in whether you want to or not, because someone (the UK/your wife) has decided they don't want you anymore.
Now they're begging you to come back.
Either way you're not coming back in whether you want to or not, because someone (the UK/your wife) has decided they don't want you anymore.
Now they're begging you to come back.
Because the football match is finished.
HGV driving hasn't finished, hence why we really need them to come back.
Evo1883
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As a driver myself , I can give you a million and 1 reasons why there are shortages ..
Yea let's work 15 hours and sleep in a Cab 300 miles from home whilst my family are all warm and watching TV having a great time without me ..
Do you know the amount of drivers who I speak to that say " I didn't get to watch my kids growing up and I regret that "
The driver shortages around the globe have been creeping up for YEARS , whilst haulage companies abuse their workers, push their legal rights to the limit and expect them to give an extra mile all whilst the world around them is changing and the job is becoming less and less appealing to the younger generation coming through.
Brexit has merely showed the industry up for what it is ... shite
Yea let's work 15 hours and sleep in a Cab 300 miles from home whilst my family are all warm and watching TV having a great time without me ..
Do you know the amount of drivers who I speak to that say " I didn't get to watch my kids growing up and I regret that "
The driver shortages around the globe have been creeping up for YEARS , whilst haulage companies abuse their workers, push their legal rights to the limit and expect them to give an extra mile all whilst the world around them is changing and the job is becoming less and less appealing to the younger generation coming through.
Brexit has merely showed the industry up for what it is ... shite
But they're not allowed back in.
If it's not Brexit related then why are we literally undoing Brexit legislation to ease the problem?
Evo1883
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To be fair this place is rubbing off on me too , I said the other day that protesters were making normal peoples lives hell , and Pete pulled me up on it and reminded me that Syria and Lebanon were hell ... so its a must that we say what we mean
I've just done the same to you ffs
I know what you meant I just couldn't find it in me to not be an awkward twat
Evo1883
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I think everyone acknowledges it’s exacerbated the problem but as Evo says it’s not the cause. Even the comments about those EU drivers leaving ‘because of Brexit’ aren’t necessarily accurate. How many of those returned him because of Covid and then decided to work nearer their families, move into different occupations etc etc
In addition to historically poor pay and conditions, the main issue from what I’ve heard and read is the amount of tests that were cancelled and the huge backlog of licenses (new and renewal) at the DVLA which dwarfs the EU employees returning
I can’t believe the government hasn’t thrown more people at DVLA to clear this ?!
ps encouraging non U.K. workers (from wherever in the world) to come and work here in sectors where there’s staff shortages is exactly what an independent nation should be doing.
Too much
Evo1883
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DVLA are a massive issue , as was pointed out again in the news yesterday they are miles behind on applications and renewals
Evo1883
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hill83
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Evo1883
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That was me during that u23 game with the mouth breather
hill83
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The government closed all the local DVLA offices didn’t they?
Astute
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We don't have enough people to cover many jobs so where would they come from?
shmmeee
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They were barred from entry surely? They could’ve come here without question and now they can’t.
shmmeee
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Yeah, centralised a few years back. Think numbers stayed the same from what I’ve seen but might be wrong. There’s been striking after covid which probably hasn’t helped
Sure they could get some temps in and could also easily redirect some from other parts of DVLA. They employ over 6k people FFS
. This is the stuff that’s pissing me off with the government and some civil service, they can’t seem to just get a grip of issues and sort them outI was speaking to a guy who owns a collections firm yesterday and he said he has his pick of new credit controllers. There’s loads available. So theres not shortages in every job in every sector. Just a lot of poor pay/condition sectors by the looks of it
clint van damme
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You can't believe the government haven't thrown resources at a problem?
Where have you been for the last 10 years?
jimmyhillsfanclub
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An interesting side-note....The UK received over 5.6 million applications from EU citizens to continue living here post brexit.....
Thats over 2 million more than the official estimate of the total who were actually living here... over 2 million more than we knew about.....and that doesn't even include the unknown thousands/millions that didn't apply for whatever reason.....
...interesting eh.
Thats over 2 million more than the official estimate of the total who were actually living here... over 2 million more than we knew about.....and that doesn't even include the unknown thousands/millions that didn't apply for whatever reason.....
...interesting eh.
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This is Boris now mate, he’s spunking cash everywhere so sure he can find a few quid to get the 50k HGV licences through a bit quicker (i would’ve thought the optics of problems over Xmas aren’t worth the risk of not sorting it)