CET: Dublin sad to see city in L1 (16 Viewers)

[Nonleagueherewecome]

It destroys his own credibility, yes.

 

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[Grendel]

You on the windup as well?

No he's said it before.

 

[Grendel]

Now that's changing the subject! I love how most points you make are by trying to destroy the other persons credibility and not actually addressing the matter in hand.

It's not changing the subject. It brings into question the persons judgement. I guess in your eyes Dublin must have been worth £100 million looking at the values you place on players.

 

[Astute]

Carlton Palmer the legend

 

[Grendel]

Carlton Palmer the legend

Non League agreed - that's perhaps why he's a bit sensitive on the issue.

 

[Astute]

Non League agreed - that's perhaps why he's a bit sensitive on the issue.

Must be a legend then

 

[Astute]

And worth at least 25m even though he has retired....

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

Non League agreed - that's perhaps why he's a bit sensitive on the issue.

No I didn't! There you go again...

 

[Astute]

No I didn't! There you go again...

So you say a bad choice then?

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

So you say a bad choice then?

What is a bad choice?

 

[Astute]

Carlton Palner as a legend?

 

[sylus]

for me total class was David Rennie. :laugh:

 

[Grendel]

No I didn't! There you go again...

Well you said this;

"you are bang on right in your analysis of the role Palmer played alongside McAllister. McAllister was about three times the player he'd been for us up to then with Big Carlton doing his dirty work! Every side needs it's Nobby Stiles"

So he was similar to a World Cup winner - sounds legendary to me.

 

[Real]

Thats given me a right good laugh - thanks for that.

Don't mention it.

Thanks for that. At least I know you are on a windup now.

Most insightful.

He also has Carlton Palmer in his all time Coventry x1

In the context of a team, not as an individual.

It's not changing the subject. It brings into question the persons judgement. I guess in your eyes Dublin must have been worth £100 million looking at the values you place on players.

Just as I question the judgement of any person who rates Richard Shaw as a defender.

Non League agreed - that's perhaps why he's a bit sensitive on the issue.

No more sensitive than the Shaw fans.

Well you said this;

"you are bang on right in your analysis of the role Palmer played alongside McAllister. McAllister was about three times the player he'd been for us up to then with Big Carlton doing his dirty work! Every side needs it's Nobby Stiles"

So he was similar to a World Cup winner - sounds legendary to me.

If you can't see that the game of football is about the team and not the individual then you shouldn't be questioning the judgement of others really. There is no doubt at all that McCallister looked at least twice the player once he had Palmer to do the dirty work.

 

[lordsummerisle]

Don't mention it.




Most insightful.



In the context of a team, not as an individual.



Just as I question the judgement of any person who rates Richard Shaw as a defender.




No more sensitive than the Shaw fans.



If you can't see that the game of football is about the team and not the individual then you shouldn't be questioning the judgement of others really. There is no doubt at all that McCallister looked at least twice the player once he had Palmer to do the dirty work.

Wrong log-in Non-League?

 

[Real]

Wrong log-in Non-League?

???????????

 

[lordsummerisle]

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Thought you were answering the NLWH points, my mistake.

Didn't think there were two people who could rate Carlton Palmer!

 

[Grendel]

If you can't see that the game of football is about the team and not the individual then you shouldn't be questioning the judgement of others really. There is no doubt at all that McCallister looked at least twice the player once he had Palmer to do the dirty work.

Palmer played 14 Premiership games in his second season with us - we won 4 of them - that is truly legendary.

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

Carlton Palner as a legend?

Of course Carlton Palmer isn't a legend. He was effective in doing McAllister's dirty work to release him to have by far his most productive season from open play for us, but legend? No chance.

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

Well you said this;

"you are bang on right in your analysis of the role Palmer played alongside McAllister. McAllister was about three times the player he'd been for us up to then with Big Carlton doing his dirty work! Every side needs it's Nobby Stiles"

So he was similar to a World Cup winner - sounds legendary to me.

Yeah but what things sounds like to you and what I meant are clearly entirely different things.

 

[Grendel]

Of course Carlton Palmer isn't a legend. He was effective in doing McAllister's dirty work to release him to have by far his most productive season from open play for us, but legend? No chance.

He played 14 games - we won 4 of them.

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

Did I fucking well call him a legend?!?

 

[Grendel]

Did I fucking well call him a legend?!?

No but you said in his second season he played a major influence which helped McCalister. As he left to join Watford in January on loan before joining Sheffield Wednesday I am merely questioning the accuracy of your logic. To be fair he did play one more game that season on 20 January vs Everton - we lost.

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

No but you said in his second season he played a major influence which helped McCalister. As he left to join Watford in January on loan before joining Sheffield Wednesday I am merely questioning the accuracy of your logic. To be fair he did play one more game that season on 20 January vs Everton - we lost.

Didn't say 2nd, it was his first he was effective. He played 31 games for us, not 14. 2nd season I remember him being used at CB, where he was shite. Now bore off. This has fuck all to do with Dublin, and you are starting to make coming on here a chore. Which is I'm sure what you intend!

 

[Grendel]

Didn't say 2nd, it was his first he was effective. He played 31 games for us, not 14. 2nd season I remember him being used at CB, where he was shite. Now bore off. This has fuck all to do with Dublin, and you are starting to make coming on here a chore. Which is I'm sure what you intend!

First season he played 15 league games and we won 5. Why is it a chore, because someone tells you that the statistics you throw out are less than accurate??

 

[fernandopartridge]

Didn't say 2nd, it was his first he was effective. He played 31 games for us, not 14. 2nd season I remember him being used at CB, where he was shite. Now bore off. This has feck all to do with Dublin, and you are starting to make coming on here a chore. Which is I'm sure what you intend!

Agree with you. We went to pot when he got injured that season.

 

[Grendel]

He's arrogant in his interview when he assumes we all forgive him-indeed he doesn't think there's even anything to forgive, he uses the word "understand". He was very smug when he strode up to the press box a few seasons back and walked a few steps away from me-the crowd nearly turned, but a few people applauded as he waved at the fans like a conquering Roman Emperor.

As with Carlton Palmer your memory appears to be at odds with mine though of course this is subjective.

When Dublin walked around the pitch that day he received a standing ovation. I had my young daughter with me and she asked who is he he is getting better applause then the players on the pitch.

I guess that's what legends deserve.....

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

Well he played 31 games not 14, that's a fact. Back on topic, Dublin isn't a legend to me, nor many fans. He is to some. But not 99.9%. I think that's all I have left to say on the matter.

 

[pyeman]

I also recall after he had been dropped, and was getting a bit of stick from sections of the crowd, he came on against Southampton I think it was, scored and stuck two fingers up towards the West Terrace/Stand, but I guess this has long been forgotten too.

I was sat in the West End that day and i remember him sticking 2 fingers up at us as well,funny thing was it wasn't people in the West End that had been giving him stick,more like sections of the Main Stand,I always thought he was a wanker after doing that,and to fuck off to the scum for more money said it all really.

 

[Real]

I was sat in the West End that day and i remember him sticking 2 fingers up at us as well,funny thing was it wasn't people in the West End that had been giving him stick,more like sections of the Main Stand,I always thought he was a wanker after doing that,and to fuck off to the scum for more money said it all really.

This isn't the 1st time this has been mentioned, yet not once have the Dublin apologists had anything to say on the matter. Mustn't tarnish the deluded thought that Dublin is a legend I guess. ;-)

 

[skybluelee]

Well he played 31 games not 14, that's a fact. Back on topic, Dublin isn't a legend to me, nor many fans. He is to some. But not 99.9%. I think that's all I have left to say on the matter.

A legend to some? I would say to many. It appears to me there is a small handful of vocal dissenters on this thread that do not speak for the majority. The pissed off minority always shout louder than the masses.

Most influential striker to have played for this club, arguably of all-time (anybody outside of the top flight cannot be considered). It was an absolute joy to watch him play in sky blue.

 

[torchomatic]

For me, it comes down to the fact he refused to play. Acceptable to some, not to others. Personally, i thought it was out of order, but there you go.

 

[Macca]

Well sometimes you have to surrender, Dublin eh? What a goal scoring, makeshift defending influential, serial match saving c**t.

And don t you dare go criticizing any of the arseholes involved in last years debacle

 

[Macca]

A legend to some? I would say to many. It appears to me there is a small handful of vocal dissenters on this thread that do not speak for the majority. The pissed off minority always shout louder than the masses.

Most influential striker to have played for this club, arguably of all-time (anybody outside of the top flight cannot be considered). It was an absolute joy to watch him play in sky blue.

Not true, ee wuz a joodus oo went 2 da scum and we made up a funny song bout im brakin is neck

 

[torchomatic]

Ridiculous. As I said, for me, down to refusing to play nothing to do with who he went to. Every good player we've ever had has gone on to better clubs and good luck to them all, both past and future. None of them have refused to play though. For ME that left a bad taste in the mouth despite the good service he'd given and the reason I will never call him a legend. I have no problem with others thinking differently, so you shouldn't either.

Not true, ee wuz a joodus oo went 2 da scum and we made up a funny song bout im brakin is neck