Crainie goes up in the world!!!!! (11 Viewers)

Tomh111

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In fairness with the players Barnsley have bought in they wont go down, they are just another mediocre championship side but not exactly the big move to a top side he was after.
 

mark82

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Maybe shows how poor we were last year that our 2 best players last year have moved to mediocre championship sides.
 
Barnsley will go down, would of gone down last season instead of us if they didn't have Ricardo vaz te for half a season. Huge step sideways for Craine, wouldn't be surprised to see him and keogh in league 1 next season as Derby are poor too
 

kg82

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Why a loser? And why the insults, he hasn't done anything wrong? He's gone to Barnsley - a team in a better position than us. They won't go down either. Where was everybody expecting him to go?
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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Why a loser? And why the insults, he hasn't done anything wrong? He's gone to Barnsley - a team in a better position than us. They won't go down either. Where was everybody expecting him to go?
I am not aware of the players they have signed but in the last 6 months of last season they were the worse team in the division bar none and I know they have sold there captain and best player in Jacob Butterfield to Norwich
They will be lucky to stay in the division based on the last 6 months of last season
 

Ashdown

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I thought Barnsley had brought in quite a few useful players. You can't blame the likes of Cranie trying to secure their futures at clubs who can guarantee a salary for them. Lets be honest whilst we are all hoping for the best our owners have just been to court for non payment of rent. There have been cuts all round and we are £40 million in debt. Rather than knock those who have gone elsewhere we should be very grateful and positive about the players who have come to us and are prepared to gamble with their careers.
 

Astute

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Why a loser? And why the insults, he hasn't done anything wrong? He's gone to Barnsley - a team in a better position than us. They won't go down either. Where was everybody expecting him to go?

You should know by now that any player that leaves us is sh!t.
 

slyblue57

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Crainie a loser, well he lost in games playing for us , CCfC are the losers by not keeping him. Best defender, great reader of the game. Good luck to him.
 

Yorkshire SB

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The fact Leeds had him on trial and decided not to sign him should tell you he was overrated by many here, people calling him better than Keogh etc.


Doubt it's as black and white as that, definitely good enough to be in and around the Leeds side. As for Keogh, Derby is hardly a glamour move..
 

PVA

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Bit of a shame, he's good enough for teams better than barnsley.

Good luck to him though.
 

kg82

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I am not aware of the players they have signed but in the last 6 months of last season they were the worse team in the division bar none and I know they have sold there captain and best player in Jacob Butterfield to Norwich
They will be lucky to stay in the division based on the last 6 months of last season

I'm sorry, but this is just a typical football fan comment - "I am not aware of the players they have signed". So how do you know how they'll do?
 

@richh87

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Doubt it's as black and white as that, definitely good enough to be in and around the Leeds side. As for Keogh, Derby is hardly a glamour move..

Pretty upsetting that players we would love to have kept, and in Keogh's case idolized, turned us down to move to Derby and Barnsley.

Both players are better than that.
 

valiant15

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Good luck in the championship crainie,jeez there's some bitter fans on here. Of course,none of the people mocking him wanted to stay did they.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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Doubt it's as black and white as that, definitely good enough to be in and around the Leeds side. As for Keogh, Derby is hardly a glamour move..
Probably isn't but if Leeds felt he was good enough to be in a play off chasing squad then I am sure they would have got around any complications there may have been to sign
He is probably on a similar wage to as CCFC offered him in the summer as he realised he wasn't as good as he thought he was.

Same will happen with Clingan soon I expect when the penny drops for him as well. They are both average championship players who wanted to be paid way more than what they are worth

Good luck to both of them but I won't pretend I won't take satisfaction if we in a higher league than him next year
 

Sutty

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Marlon Harewood, Toni Silva, Ben Alnwick, Tomasz Cywka, Kelvin Etuhu, Mido and now Cranie. Don't think they'll have any issue staying up.

As for being better than Keogh, I said that all last season and I stand by that opinion now.
 

Astute

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Pretty upsetting that players we would love to have kept, and in Keogh's case idolized, turned us down to move to Derby and Barnsley.

Both players are better than that.

I agree, but does that mean they were too good for us?
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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I'm sorry, but this is just a typical football fan comment - "I am not aware of the players they have signed". So how do you know how they'll do?
Which is why said

"They will be lucky to stay in the division based on the last 6 months of last season"

You see this means I am basing my prediction on there form from the end of last season and not on who they have signed

Anyway I have looked at there signings and they have signed a player who was relegated with us last season
An ageing striker in Harewood who made 4 appearances last season and was released by Forest
And astriker Mido who has made about 10 appearances in the last 3 season

Meanwhile in the last 6 months they have lost there 2 best players and captain to now premiership sides West Ham and Norwich

They will struggle for sure imo
 

kg82

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I forgot how last seasons form counts for everything in the new season. Oh well, hello league 2 for us then
 

skybluebeduff

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He's made a good honest choice, Leeds wasn't happening and to be fair, and who wants to play with Diouf anyway? :jerkit: Good luck Martin.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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I forgot how last seasons form counts for everything in the new season. Oh well, hello league 2 for us then
Difference is we are in a different league, if we had stayed in the championship somehow would you have expected anything other than another relegation battle?
 

Yorkshire SB

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Probably isn't but if Leeds felt he was good enough to be in a play off chasing squad then I am sure they would have got around any complications there may have been to sign
He is probably on a similar wage to as CCFC offered him in the summer as he realised he wasn't as good as he thought he was.

Same will happen with Clingan soon I expect when the penny drops for him as well. They are both average championship players who wanted to be paid way more than what they are worth

Good luck to both of them but I won't pretend I won't take satisfaction if we in a higher league than him next year

Well you say it isn't but continue with your point anyway. Leeds have signed a lot of players recently and therefore must consider their wage budget, additionally they already have two centre backs and two full backs as good as Craine (White, Peltier, Lees and Pearce). Can they afford to be paying players of Cranie's ability to sit on the bench or another of those aforementioned to sit on the bench, probably not. He actually refused to play in his last two games there on trial because he didn't want to risk getting injured whilst they decided whether they were going to hand him a contract or not. Then with a week to go before the season starts he's taken Barnsley. Probably not a dream move for him, but Championship football nonetheless.

You sound incredibly bitter, you can't blame players for wanting to earn more money and play at a higher level, it's the same as anyone in any profession.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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Well you say it isn't but continue with your point anyway. Leeds have signed a lot of players recently and therefore must consider their wage budget, additionally they already have two centre backs and two full backs as good as Craine (White, Peltier, Lees and Pearce). Can they afford to be paying players of Cranie's ability to sit on the bench or another of those aforementioned to sit on the bench, probably not. He actually refused to play in his last two games there on trial because he didn't want to risk getting injured whilst they decided whether they were going to hand him a contract or not. Then with a week to go before the season starts he's taken Barnsley. Probably not a dream move for him, but Championship football nonetheless.

You sound incredibly bitter, you can't blame players for wanting to earn more money and play at a higher level, it's the same as anyone in any profession.
If Cranie was good enough to play for a promotion chasing team he would weather it be Leeds or any other he would be. If he would improve their squad or was better than what they had then they would have offered him a contract.

I am not bitter, he wasn't worth what he wanted paying and now he has realised that he has found himself a club. good luck to Cranie. I am pleased he is found a club to take him on for the season, he has gone one better than Clingan has so far

I still say he was overrated here, his best quality was his versatility which says it all. Wasn't strong enough or imposing enough to make a top quality CB and wasn't quick enough or good enough on the ball to make a top full back
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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I'm not a psychic, so I don't know.
That's it resort to childish comments like this now as you and I both know 99.9% of Cov fans would predict another struggle if we had stayed in the division

After 10 years of struggling at the wrong end of the table in the championship you don't know if we would struggle again if we had survived :thinking about:

Sure thing
 

kg82

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That's it resort to childish comments like this now as you and I both know 99.9% of Cov fans would predict another struggle if we had stayed in the division

After 10 years of struggling at the wrong end of the table in the championship you don't know if we would struggle again if we had survived :thinking about:

Sure thing

Not childish, I don't know what would have happened. Nobody does. And we'll never know. SISU may have learned their lesson, we may have brought players in... You and I don't know otherwise. So no, I don't know and I can't predict because we're not even in that league anymore.
 

kg82

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I'm done with this anyway, fair play to you Cranie. You're still in the championship, we're not.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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Not childish, I don't know what would have happened. Nobody does. And we'll never know. SISU may have learned their lesson, we may have brought players in... You and I don't know otherwise. So no, I don't know and I can't predict because we're not even in that league anymore.
What makes you think that SISU may have learned their lesson? What had they done prior to make you think this? We would have stayed up on a shoe string budget so no reason to change it right?

I guess you are just saying it they may have changed and we would have been comfortable in the championship just to go against my argument without having any reasoning to believe that
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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I guess Cranie is just one of those players who is happy to be poor/mediocre as long as they are being paid well for it which Fisher was referring too
 
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Jack Griffin

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Marlon Harewood, Toni Silva, Ben Alnwick, Tomasz Cywka, Kelvin Etuhu, Mido and now Cranie. Don't think they'll have any issue staying up.

As for being better than Keogh, I said that all last season and I stand by that opinion now.

Strike a light, where did they get the dosh for that lot.. :eek:
 

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