Crainie goes up in the world!!!!! (1 Viewer)

kg82

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What makes you think that SISU may have learned their lesson? What had they done prior to make you think this? We would have stayed up on a shoe string budget so no reason to change it right?

I guess you are just saying it they may have changed and we would have been comfortable in the championship just to go against my argument without having any reasoning to believe that

Oh my God, did you read that at all? I said MAY have but, and I'm insisting on highlighting this on this occasion, I stated NOBODY KNOWS what would have happened.
 

skybluesteve76

New Member
Why a loser? And why the insults, he hasn't done anything wrong? He's gone to Barnsley - a team in a better position than us. They won't go down either. Where was everybody expecting him to go?

I think he'll regret that decision. A league higher maybe but I don't see Barnsley as a bigger club than us! Are you saying Craine thought I'll turn Cov down and go to Barnsley?? Doubt it
 

kg82

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I think he'll regret that decision. A league higher maybe but I don't see Barnsley as a bigger club than us! Are you saying Craine thought I'll turn Cov down and go to Barnsley?? Doubt it

I didn't say a bigger club? I don't think they are. Higher league though, better standard than this league.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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Oh my God, did you read that at all? I said MAY have but, and I'm insisting on highlighting this on this occasion, I stated NOBODY KNOWS what would have happened.
No got bored of reading your drivel

Sort of how you didn't read one of my first posts when I made a prediction based solely on there form at the end of last season and you started barking on about players they have signed

Nobody knows anything in the future for sure but we can still make predictions on what the most likely outcome would be using the facts and information
 

kg82

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No got bored of reading your drivel

Sort of how you didn't read one of my first posts when I made a prediction based solely on there form at the end of last season and you started barking on about players they have signed

Nobody knows anything in the future for sure but we can still make predictions on what the most likely outcome would be using the facts and information

Which you didn't do. Read all of your first post - you didn't do any research, just a prediction based on form after Christmas without considering their signings. So, call my stuff drivel if you want but I was taking a bit more notice of the club he's gone to.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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Which you didn't do. Read all of your first post - you didn't do any research, just a prediction based on form after Christmas without considering their signings. So, call my stuff drivel if you want but I was taking a bit more notice of the club he's gone to.
I was using it as an initial indicator, how you do the previous season is a good indicator to how you will do the following season. Usually the same teams are involved in the lower half battle whilst the same clubs will be competing for the play off places. You get a few anomalies but normally this is a good indicator so it is likely Barnsley will be struggling again.

I then looked at there signings and no one they had signed changed my opinion

Then you went off on one about how you are not psychic when I said if we had stayed up everyone would predict another struggle for us (which would be true) to back up my point that the previous season is a good indicator of how you will do the following season.

Basically you just started arguing the opposite of what I was saying without any reasoning just to be different
 

kg82

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I was using it as an initial indicator, how you do the previous season is a good indicator to how you will do the following season. Usually the same teams are involved in the lower half battle whilst the same clubs will be competing for the play off places. You get a few anomalies but normally this is a good indicator so it is likely Barnsley will be struggling again.

I then looked at there signings and no one they had signed changed my opinion

Then you went off on one about how you are not psychic when I said if we had stayed up everyone would predict another struggle for us (which would be true) to back up my point that the previous season is a good indicator of how you will do the following season.

Basically you just started arguing the opposite of what I was saying without any reasoning just to be different

No, you made a stupid comment. I picked up on it. And I definitely didn't "go off on one"!
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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No, you made a stupid comment. I picked up on it. And I definitely didn't "go off on one"!
No I didn't, when I made the point about how people would predict a struggle for us if we had stayed up you wouldn't give a straight answer and you knew I was right. You started going on how about people are not physic and anything could happen.

Does this mean nobody should ever make another prediction again because anything could happen in the future?

Basically to summarise the last 4 pages of this thread







You're an idiot


















That is all.
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
No I didn't, when I made the point about how people would predict a struggle for us if we had stayed up you wouldn't give a straight answer and you knew I was right. You started going on how about people are not physic and anything could happen.

Does this mean nobody should ever make another prediction again because anything could happen in the future?

Basically to summarise the last 4 pages of this thread







You're an idiot


















That is all.

Make a prediction. Get facts first though. Resorting to name calling :laugh:
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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Make a prediction. Get facts first though. Resorting to name calling :laugh:
I was well aware I wasn't taking into account all the information when I made the initial prediction, which is why I thought I would make it clear my prediction only took into account how they finished last season and not who they had signed after that which is what I stated but your pea sized brain couldn't grasp that concept so you didn't pick me up on anything no matter how much you would like to think you did

You know what they say about morons, you can't win an argument with them as they will they just ignore what you say and eventually drag you down to their level
 

covcity4life

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barnsley? wow...i dont even think im deluded in saying he should have stayed at cov

would have enjoyed a season where wins more than loses and could be above barnsley come next year!
 

hamil99

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Guess money talks really. Bet he's pushing towards the 10,000 a week mark there, one of the top earners. Why else would he really go there? Go to a better club as back up, for less money or go to a club promising first team football and larger pay packet?
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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barnsley? wow...i dont even think im deluded in saying he should have stayed at cov

would have enjoyed a season where wins more than loses and could be above barnsley come next year!
Have you seen some of the powerhouse names Barnsley have signed, don't be so quick to judge a club like Barnsley. Just because everything points towards them languishing near the bottom of the table and maybe a relegation, you are not qualified to make that prediction as you are not physic and anything could happen
 

covcity4life

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Have you seen some of the powerhouse names Barnsley have signed, don't be so quick to judge a club like Barnsley. Just because everything points towards them languishing near the bottom of the table and maybe a relegation, you are not qualified to make that prediction as you are not physic and anything could happen

so lets just close this forum as anything could happen so why speculate:facepalm:

you just pointed out that everything suggests them languishing near the bottom of the table so thanks for backing me up :wave:
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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so lets just close this forum as anything could happen so why speculate:facepalm:

you just pointed out that everything suggests them languishing near the bottom of the table so thanks for backing me up :wave:
I agree

I made the same prediction yesterday and got jumped on by another user who wanted to look clever on the internet
 

WhiteyBFC

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Barnsley fan here..

We haven't signed Martin Cranie. Yet.

He's here training with us, and I believe there may be a chance for him.

We've been looking for another ball-playing center half, and Keith Hill loves his utility players, so I think Cranie would be a good fit.

And at 25, he's still got his best years ahead of him, and if Keith can polish him up ala Jimmy McNulty, we could at some point - all being well - make a large profit on the lad.

We get them cheap/free, polish them up, and sell them on. It's the Barnsley way. See Jacob Butterfield, Ricardo Vaz Te for examples.

And next up (allegedly) will be either Luke Steele, Matty Done, or McNulty.
We're a selling club, a small club (in terms of budget/support) in this division, and we live within our means.
It's not exciting, and at times it's very frustrating seeing your better players leave, but we've always had to do it, save for the late 90's, and if it means we survive as a club, and keep retaining our second tier status (76 seasons and counting at this level) then it's better than the alternative.

I noticed a few derogatory comments in this thread - it's what we expect - and each to their own.
And to be fair, we did drop like a stone after February last season.
The losses of Butterfield and Vaz Te hurt us, for sure. But we also lost Steele, Done, Bobby Hassell, Jim O'Brien, and David Perkins to injury. As well as losing the loan talents of Danny Drinkwater.
Keith's attempts to solve these issues proved fruitless, in the loan market, hence the dramatic slump.

However, we've strengthened this summer with some quality players, and I'm hopeful of a better campaign.

A lot of Keith's signings last year were from the nether regions, and last season was a first taste for many of them, of this particular division.
The same goes for Keith himself - his first year at this level.
So it's to be hoped that both he and his squad of players have learned, a lot.

Anyhoo, good luck for the season ahead, and I hope to see you back in the second tier in 12 months time. :)
 

Grendel

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We haven't signed Martin Cranie. Yet.

He's here training with us, and I believe there may be a chance for him.

We've been looking for another ball-playing center half, and Keith Hill loves his utility players, so I think Cranie would be a good fit.

And at 25, he's still got his best years ahead of him, and if Keith can polish him up ala Jimmy McNulty, we could at some point - all being well - make a large profit on the lad.

We get them cheap/free, polish them up, and sell them on. It's the Barnsley way. See Jacob Butterfield, Ricardo Vaz Te for examples.

And next up (allegedly) will be either Luke Steele, Matty Done, or McNulty.
We're a selling club, a small club (in terms of budget/support) in this division, and we live within our means.
It's not exciting, and at times it's very frustrating seeing your better players leave, but we've always had to do it, save for the late 90's, and if it means we survive as a club, and keep retaining our second tier status (76 seasons and counting at this level) then it's better than the alternative.

I noticed a few derogatory comments in this thread - it's what we expect - and each to their own.
And to be fair, we did drop like a stone after February last season.
The losses of Butterfield and Vaz Te hurt us, for sure. But we also lost Steele, Done, Bobby Hassell, Jim O'Brien, and David Perkins to injury. As well as losing the loan talents of Danny Drinkwater.
Keith's attempts to solve these issues proved fruitless, in the loan market, hence the dramatic slump.

However, we've strengthened this summer with some quality players, and I'm hopeful of a better campaign.

A lot of Keith's signings last year were from the nether regions, and last season was a first taste for many of them, of this particular division.
The same goes for Keith himself - his first year at this level.
So it's to be hoped that both he and his squad of players have learned, a lot.

Anyhoo, good luck for the season ahead, and I hope to see you back in the second tier in 12 months time. :)

Great post - shows a good manager who can make limited resources work.
 

Sky_Blue_Ste

Active Member
Sell him on?

Nope, he'll do what he did at Portsmouth & us & run his contract down & go for a free!
 
cranie to barnsley

www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/8006010/Cranie-signs-one-year-deal

Maybe we will get him on a free at the end of the season when we go up and they go down
 

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