Grendel
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Er it’s no more cost to them?
Bin Strikes (3 Viewers)
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Er it’s no more cost to them?
Nick
Administrator
No, they will be paying that on top of what they pay the employed bin men.
With the agency, they won't.
Nick
Administrator
Making it tidy for the news cameras. Favourites.
Grendel
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They have been recycling waste for the council for over 10 years. Its hardly a great conspiracy
Si80
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That's not the money that the binman would see in his take home paypacket, no. But in terms of pension / reward for the permanent employee I imagine it would all balance out and the cost to the council be the same.
Edited to add - Idiots shouting at the guys stood taking the rubbish off you at the drop off points really are the worst.
Grendel
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Correct he doesn't seem to understand how contractors work
Philosoraptor
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What I have been saying for years on here about Coventry Labour. It is time for a clean out.
Philosoraptor
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Why bother striking when the money is much better spent just doing a coordinated response against Coventry Labour seats who have no support in them. That will probably be most of them. It is time for the Unions to get more organized than they are at the moment.
There is power in numbers.
There is power in numbers.
Philosoraptor
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For example, look at former council member for cluster munitions Damian Gannon.
No Damian, the only relationship it is going to break is the ones that say they are Labour members opposed to the ones that have Labour values.
No Damian, the only relationship it is going to break is the ones that say they are Labour members opposed to the ones that have Labour values.
fernandopartridge
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What a wanker that bloke is
Brighton Sky Blue
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Yes how dare workers engage in collectivised action
Grendel
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They can do that of course let’s see how it works out for them
Brighton Sky Blue
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I mean clearly you're just anti-union
Grendel
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Well Let’s see if their members end up better off here shall we. Could be out of a job altogether if they aren’t careful
Brighton Sky Blue
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Confirmed. As it happens my local union has donated a few hundred quid to the strikers' fund
LastGarrison
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The sour faces on my binmen today showed that they really aren’t happy. 
Corrado
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You must be one of the lucky streets in Earsldon - Clarendon Street wasn't collected - now have to wait another 2 weeks
duffer
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There's a really obvious mistake here that people pretending to be in the know are making.
If you're paying for agency staff, then you are covering not only their pay rates, which are likely to be higher, but you also have to pay the agency that provides them a commission on top.
It's an expensive way to do business compared to employing people permanently, which is why it's typically used for short-term cover, or in this case by a Labour council to break a strike.
If you're paying for agency staff, then you are covering not only their pay rates, which are likely to be higher, but you also have to pay the agency that provides them a commission on top.
It's an expensive way to do business compared to employing people permanently, which is why it's typically used for short-term cover, or in this case by a Labour council to break a strike.
Grendel
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It is used for short term cover yes and not as some claim “they have to money to pay these wages”
Many companies do deliberately take this route though for many of their staff I knew someone in the same job for 10 years as a contractor
duffer
Well-Known Member
Yep, that's not rare. I did ten years contracting, across two companies. Relatively expensive for them, but in IT it's not uncommon. Keeps the headcount down and comes out of a different budget.
As for the council not having enough money to pay the binmen, that's a choice rather than a fact.
The excuse they were originally hiding behind was the risk of equal pay claims. Unless there are a raft of HGV2 women drivers both working for the council and currently classed as unskilled, then that's up there alongside "ambushed by cake".
chiefdave
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Wasn't really paying attention so might have got this wrong but I think they've said on CWR that the company the council have engaged to carry out the bin collections aren't licensed or insured for kerbside collections. Would be about par for the course with the council if they've managed to screw something as basic as that up - sure I must has misheard as that would be a basic thing to check wouldn't it?
Saddlebrains
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Yea the tides turned now. Any support they had has long since fucked off.
The streets are a mess and people are rightly pissed off now. I was behind them.
Now i think just crack on lads accept defeat on this one, some people dont even have a job after covid
The streets are a mess and people are rightly pissed off now. I was behind them.
Now i think just crack on lads accept defeat on this one, some people dont even have a job after covid
clint van damme
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Speak for yourself, I'm 100 percent behind them.
Took mine and my neighbours rubbish up to Hearsall common, took 10 minutes.
Grendel
Well-Known Member
Not an advert for needing them being paid more!
clint van damme
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Well it is because tjeres an army of people overseeing the operation and a driver, who's probably agency and on considerably more, ends up driving the lorry away anyway!
fernandopartridge
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What point are you making here?
Nick
Administrator
That the video they put out hasn't really done them any favours.
fernandopartridge
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Why?