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Brighton Sky Blue

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Grendel said:
It’s hardly a new development and the protest group were the rag tag Piers Corbyn bunch weren’t they?

Also wasn’t David Lammy there? Lammy who said Tories are Nazis and that those who supported Brexit were worse than Adolf Hitler. Ever the balanced is Mr “great big expense account” Lammy
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This isn’t really a gotcha if I agree the Lammy remarks are unacceptable
 
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CCFCSteve

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It’s been said for a while MPs need to tone it all down. Some of the language is unacceptable whether that’s Johnson with his slurs or Rayner with her ‘Tory scum’ and it only damages Parliament as a whole and whip up idiots in the public

Johnson shouldve just apologised and said he was referring to leaders taking responsibility for their teams actions but it was poor example and he retracts it (apparently it was Rees-Moggs suggestion - when’s Johnson going to stop listening to idiots ?!). Not hard
 
Grendel

Grendel

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CCFCSteve said:
It’s been said for a while MPs need to tone it all down. Some of the language is unacceptable whether that’s Johnson with his slurs or Rayner with her ‘Tory scum’ and it only damages Parliament as a whole and whip up idiots in the public

Johnson shouldve just apologised and said he was referring to leaders taking responsibility for their teams actions but it was poor example and he retracts it (apparently it was Rees-Moggs suggestion - when’s Johnson going to stop listening to idiots ?!). Not hard
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yes this is a good and balanced view but the notion Starmer was abused as Johnson made the comments is absurd and given his own disdain at the threats made to one of his own MPs I really don’t care about what the odious creep thinks anyway
 
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CCFCSteve

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Grendel said:
yes this is a good and balanced view but the notion Starmer was abused as Johnson made the comments is absurd and given his own disdain at the threats made to one of his own MPs I really don’t care about what the odious creep thinks anyway
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Yeah, idiots will just jump on stuff in the public domain though and MPs/PM shouldn’t be feeding the fire/giving any more ammunition

I’ve advocated freedom of speech on the other thread but parliament should rise above this type of stuff and also condemn any similar language from their respective parties. We’re nowhere near the US but unfortunately slowly edging in the same direction
 
Sick Boy

Sick Boy

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Grendel said:
yes this is a good and balanced view but the notion Starmer was abused as Johnson made the comments is absurd and given his own disdain at the threats made to one of his own MPs I really don’t care about what the odious creep thinks anyway
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Do you think Johnson should retract his slur?
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Sick Boy said:
Do you think Johnson should retract his slur?
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I think it was childish - I don’t see what it really achieved - but is it worse than accusations aimed at Tories as being Nazis - no - and it’s the works we live in. It’s a childish insult but it isn’t threatening Mr Starmer who refuses to back one of his own MPs against death threats
 
Sick Boy

Sick Boy

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Grendel said:
I think it was childish - I don’t see what it really achieved - but is it worse than accusations aimed at Tories as being Nazis - no - and it’s the works we live in. It’s a childish insult but it isn’t threatening Mr Starmer who refuses to back one of his own MPs against death threats
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So you don’t think he should retract it then?
 
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SBT

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Grendel said:
I think it was childish - I don’t see what it really achieved - but is it worse than accusations aimed at Tories as being Nazis - no - and it’s the works we live in. It’s a childish insult but it isn’t threatening Mr Starmer who refuses to back one of his own MPs against death threats
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For a brief, 12-word moment, you ALMOST thought about a story on its individual merits. We'll try again next time!
 
Ccfcisparks

Ccfcisparks

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Grendel said:
I think it was childish - I don’t see what it really achieved - but is it worse than accusations aimed at Tories as being Nazis - no - and it’s the works we live in. It’s a childish insult but it isn’t threatening Mr Starmer who refuses to back one of his own MPs against death threats
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Did you not get upset and threaten Earlsdon with legal action for making derogatory, baseless comments about yourself. Don't really see how this is much different to that?
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Ccfcisparks said:
Did you not get upset and threaten Earlsdon with legal action for making derogatory, baseless comments about yourself. Don't really see how this is much different to that?
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It’s strictly speaking accurate as Starmer was head of the CPS - but terminology used was not great
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Deleted member 5849 said:
Why is one contingent on the other?
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I think one is a lot worse than the other as was Mr Starmer and his casual indifference to one of his own MPs who received death threats - no?
 
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Grendel said:
I think one is a lot worse than the other as was Mr Starmer and his casual indifference to one of his own MPs who received death threats - no?
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If a tree falls in the night while a bear shits in the woods, is Tommy Robinson a racist?
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Deleted member 5849 said:
If a tree falls in the night while a bear shits in the woods, is Tommy Robinson a racist?
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PVA

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Good lord, the 'but but but Labour!' on display from Grendel this last page or so is pathetic.

Not surprising from the man who had no issue with comments from 'Mr Johnson' resulting in an increase in Islamophobic attacks.
 
clint van damme

clint van damme

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Mr Grendel Goes To London

www.bbc.co.uk

Real people don't care about No 10 lockdown parties, says Commons leader Mark Spencer

New Commons leader Mark Spencer insists the PM will not have lied about lockdown gatherings in No 10.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Even if we ignore the condescending nature of the remarks...

Even if we ignore that he's totally wrong, as public opinion seems to show people do care about the parties...

Even if we ignore the fact that the people least likely to live in 'the real world' are MP's, especially those in the Tory party...

Then his argument that people care about energy bills, NHS backlogs and jobs doesn't look good for his party, given they're all things that have been fucked up by his party in some sense or another.

How can one party be filled with so many utter fuckwits?
 
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PVA

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First we had 'the police don't investigate historical crimes'.

Then we had 'we don't have any evidence despite all this fucking evidence right in front of us'

And now we have 'it's not the police's job to police'

Just what do the Met do exactly then?


 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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PVA said:
First we had 'the police don't investigate historical crimes'.

Then we had 'we don't have any evidence despite all this fucking evidence right in front of us'

And now we have 'it's not the police's job to police'

Just what do the Met do exactly then?


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Would be interesting to know what those people that got together during lockdown actually got fined for, seeing as the police don't police parties. Not to mention raids on raves or those that have had visits by the police to keep the noise down.

It's worrying, because it's clearly nothing more than an attempt to protect those in power, and if the police can't be trusted to hold the government to account when wrongdoing has occurred, they can't really be trusted at all.
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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PVA said:
First we had 'the police don't investigate historical crimes'.

Then we had 'we don't have any evidence despite all this fucking evidence right in front of us'

And now we have 'it's not the police's job to police'

Just what do the Met do exactly then?


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So, if a murder was taking place in front of the gates of Downing Street the police on the gate couldn’t get involved? That’s basically what she’s saying.

I do agree that she shouldn’t need to ask officers to police the corridors of Whitehall. However, that’s where we are. The police need police the corridors of Whitehall. She should be more angry about that than anyone given her position. Instead she’s trivialising upholding the law, which is a conflict of interest, which means she’s unfit for her position. She has to go.
 
shmmeee

shmmeee

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skybluetony176 said:
So, if a murder was taking place in front of the gates of Downing Street the police on the gate couldn’t get involved? That’s basically what she’s saying.

I do agree that she shouldn’t need to ask officers to police the corridors of Whitehall. However, that’s where we are. The police need police the corridors of Whitehall. She should be more angry about that than anyone given her position. Instead she’s trivialising upholding the law, which is a conflict of interest, which means she’s unfit for her position. She has to go.
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I think the general point that if you’re there to guard you don’t get distracted by smaller crimes is fair.
 
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PVA

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Poor old Liz getting absolutely bodied over in Moscow.

This is what happens when totally unserious politicians are tasked with very serious business. I dread to think how out of her depth Truss was at this meeting.





 
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PVA

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shmmeee said:
I think the general point that if you’re there to guard you don’t get distracted by smaller crimes is fair.
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Yes, that is fair. But I think it's also fair to say that if you're stood at the front door you would notice streams of people piling in and out the building half cut.
 
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