Ryton (3 Viewers)

[shmmeee]

I think this is a bit of a strange article and as a Championship club I find it quite embarrassing.

Firstly why's pitch maintenance coming out of the playing budget?

And equally even if that's the case why are the club pushing that out to the press and making it public knowledge knowing full well the reaction it's going to get?

Not really sure what their aim is here. Putting my tin foil hat firmly on it suggests they're either pining for donations or prepping their narrative for when player sales are made in the summer.

Most likely prepping us for no significant signings in the summer. Which considering we need about 6 players is worrying.

 

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[Bad Boy]

This is the kind of thing we’re up against. Leicester City.
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Very envious of what they've got, but in a nice way, nothing malicious. Wish we had something similar.

 

[SkyblueDad]

Takes me back 40 years then chairman Jimmy Hill sold star striker Ian Wallace to Nottingham Forest for an at the time astronomical £1.25 million and used the money to build the white elephant Sky Blue Connexion, useless so-called training facility, I just hope we are not seeing history repeating itself can’t see how this can be financed without player sales

 

[CDK]

Hopefully this is not the beginning of the end for Robins future with Cov -Frustration seems to be picked up in his wording. He is already reportedly working with one of the smallest and cheapest squads in the division and money seems so tight it seems he is suggesting 'ear-marking a chunk of the funds available to improve the quality of the club’s Ryton training ground pitches' -Worrying comments indeed - Other clubs might show him around there superb training facilities and how much he is given to spend to fulfil his ambitions . We are one of the best if not the best footballing sides in the division- please at least provide him the basics of decent pitches and facilities

This is alarming his comments and maybe the start of the parting of the ways for robins and our progress.

 

[long way home]

Using some of the player budget to improve the facility says to me MR is very happy with the nucleus of his squad. He must believes it has room to improve and some younger players have potential to step up into fighting for 1st team squads.

He is going to fight to keep what he has and try to bring in a couple of quality players the create more depth. He is confident the coaching and just wants the players to have the best chance of reaching maximum performance in an environment that allows it.

In my opinion if he keeps the nucleus, brings up 4 of the younger players and adds 2 or 3 quality signings it's worth investing in the everyday work place for the staff and players. Not a risk just a smart move and another piece in setting the culture that MR knows is so important in the clubs progression.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

This is alarming his comments and maybe the start of the parting of the ways for robins and our progress.

We hold our breath on the owners delivering

 

[cc84cov]

We hold our breath on the owners delivering

Let’s get real players will be sold regardless of their season ticket etc sales pitch

 

[fatso]

If he gets us promoted via the playoffs, it's happy days, 1 season in the Premier league will pay for a new training ground and give us parachute payments to make us competitive when we come back down.

 

[Grendel]

If he gets us promoted via the playoffs, it's happy days, 1 season in the Premier league will pay for a new training ground and give us parachute payments to make us competitive when we come back down.

well that or it makes some investors very happy with their returns

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

Let’s get real players will be sold regardless of their season ticket etc sales pitch

Shock horror. Football club sells players, buys players. How do you think our team has improved over the past few seasons?

 

[cc84cov]

If he gets us promoted via the playoffs, it's happy days, 1 season in the Premier league will pay for a new training ground and give us parachute payments to make us competitive when we come back down.

Or cover their high interest loans against the club

 

[cc84cov]

Shock horror. Football club sells players, buys players. How do you think our team has improved over the past few seasons?

Difference is we will sell O’Hare Hamer etc to cover training ground costs & high interest loans against the club rather than putting it back into playing squad

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

Difference is we will sell O’Hare Hamer etc to cover training ground costs & high interest loans against the club rather than putting it back into playing squad

We'll see. So you think we're going to sell our top players and do up the training ground, and not replace our top players. Really ?

 

[Esoterica]

I've no idea what is really going on but there have been several recent 'off the field' statements and soundbites around finances, all of which have raised as many questions as they've answered. Historically under SISU, when that kind of thing starts happening, there's a kick in the nuts just around the corner. Hopefully this is just Robins jostling for more money next season.

 

[vow]

Maybe part of it is try and push the narrative for selling the training ground to move to a new one. It wasn't too long ago that the pitches at Ryton were purportedly in great nick.

Definitely this!
MR has planted the seed for a move to Warwick University I reckon! After they sell Ryton off.

 

[cc84cov]

We'll see. So you think we're going to sell our top players and do up the training ground, and not replace our top players. Really ?

Top players will be sold and robins will have the task of finding equal replacements on peanuts we’ve been here before H...this if Robins is here much longer of course next big offer that comes I think he goes tbh

 

[thekidfromstrettoncamp]

Definitely this!
MR has planted the seed for a move to Warwick University I reckon! After they sell Ryton off.

May well plant the seed but the ground won't be fertile (Warwick was never a starter) .I think this is an early call if he gets a bad response It will be bye bye .Hope not.

 

[thekidfromstrettoncamp]

Shock horror. Football club sells players, buys players. How do you think our team has improved over the past few seasons?

The selling and buying part happens and M R has worked wonders with the pittance he receives from up above .He cannot keep doing it sooner or later our luck will run out.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Most likely prepping us for no significant signings in the summer. Which considering we need about 6 players is worrying.

Robins isn’t about that is he?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The selling and buying part happens and M R has worked wonders with the pittance he receives from up above .He cannot keep doing it sooner or later our luck will run out.

What’s lucky about what he’s achieved?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

May well plant the seed but the ground won't be fertile (Warwick was never a starter) .I think this is an early call if he gets a bad response It will be bye bye .Hope not.

Do you not think he talks to boddy fisher and Seppala. It’s not playschool. He’s a professional football manager who’s stock has never been higher!
If he thinks a move to Warwick university is necessary to progress he’ll mention it in meetings set up. I just don’t get why people would think he doesn’t know what to expect. Seems to me he revels in it and is used to winning some and losing others

 

[better days]

Do you not think he talks to boddy fisher and Seppala. It’s not playschool. He’s a professional football manager who’s stock has never been higher!
If he thinks a move to Warwick university is necessary to progress he’ll mention it in meetings set up. I just don’t get why people would think he doesn’t know what to expect. Seems to me he revels in it and is used to winning some and losing others

I reckon that's it Pete
Top managers like Conte at Spurs do the same sort of thing
Put pressure on the owners by talking to the media about shortcomings at the club to get what they need

 

[Grendel]

I reckon that's it Pete
Top managers like Conte at Spurs do the same sort of thing
Put pressure on the owners by talking to the media about shortcomings at the club to get what they need

robins works for the Sisu dollar and worships at the temple - the comments are staged and for effect

 

[Colin Steins Smile]

robins works for the Sisu dollar and worships at the temple - the comments are staged and for effect

I think you grossly underestimate Robins. He's identifying elements he needs to extract more "marginal gains" including technical, tactical and political elements.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

robins works for the Sisu dollar and worships at the temple - the comments are staged and for effect

'kin ' ell G, if you'd put away a tenner for every time you churned that out, you could buy the bloody club (you might have to downgrade your Jag for a second hand Peugeot to boost the playing budget, though)

 

[Skybluebeliever]

I reckon that's it Pete
Top managers like Conte at Spurs do the same sort of thing
Put pressure on the owners by talking to the media about shortcomings at the club to get what they need

I think he has been frustrated for a while about the pitches , he is aware of the cost element but feels it’s vital this is looked at , certain works have been done but not had desired effect . New training ground is being looked at , this will be separate to Warwick university project

 

[Grendel]

'kin ' ell G, if you'd put away a tenner for every time you churned that out, you could buy the bloody club (you might have to downgrade your Jag for a second hand Peugeot to boost the playing budget, though)

his most successful years as manager are operating in this framework so why would he choose otherwise?

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

his most successful years as manager are operating in this framework so why would he choose otherwise?

The thing is that your comments are completely insulting as regards to MR. What would you have us do? Hound him out for not slating the owners at every opportunity? If we have been lucky enough to have discovered someone able to work/entertain us within the undoubted restraints, why take pot shots at every opportunity. I get the 'bigger picture' concern, but don't constantly dig at one of the individuals who is helping keep it together.

 

[better days]

robins works for the Sisu dollar and worships at the temple - the comments are staged and for effect

Napoleon XIV
Theyre coming to take me away.
Ha, ha

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

robins works for the Sisu dollar and worships at the temple - the comments are staged and for effect

So if someone offered him a lot more dollar he'd go worship at their temple instead. Why would he stay in a job knowing he was being heavily prevented from continuing to improve us because of lack of financial support if he had other options?

The job he's done here over the past few years would guarantee him a decent job elsewhere. Although I think he wants to carry on here and take us further he will have a point where he knows he's fighting a losing battle and would look elsewhere. He's not a member of a SISU cult.

 

[vow]

May well plant the seed but the ground won't be fertile (Warwick was never a starter) .I think this is an early call if he gets a bad response It will be bye bye .Hope not.

I meant a new training ground tbf not a stadium at Warwick uni