Brighton Sky Blue
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The police
Drinking in the stands (12 Viewers)
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cc84cov
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Agreed on your point
But...
Ok it’s blatant,stewards are seeing this in the toilets smoking sniffing coke drinking in the stands that stand and do nothing when there is little children around this,is this not part of their job ?
JAM See
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I'm not sure it is mate. Minimum wage, confronted by a load of coked up idiots?
I wouldn't fancy it.
It's not nice to see that stuff going on in the toilets, but it shouldn't be up to stewards to police that sort of behavior, they are there to escort people to their seats and ensure that regulations are met.
We've had a lovely debate, but I stand by my original point. Stewards (and I'm not one) shouldn't be blamed for the increase in antisocial behaviour at football.
13th_choice_seamer
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Except usually, in the past, it has indeed been stewards who refuse entry to the seating area to anyone with a drink, or confiscate alcohol from anyone found possessing it in the stadium bowl. What's changed? If stewards are not there to enforce ground regulations then why bother to employ them?
cc84cov
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Stewards police control the security in that ground for me it’s their job to keep it safe secure etc I agree people should take responsibility and behave but it’s not gonna happen hence why police and security are employed at the ground it’s not just escorting people out it’s fans safety as their main concern Surly?
Brighton Sky Blue
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I guess what I'm saying is that it probably shouldn't be left to people without the authority to enforce the law and carry out arrests for flagrant breaches of it.
Police for the most part get paid well to stand there on matchday and not do a great deal-let's at least get some value for money and crack down on this kind of behaviour at the same time.
Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue
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Genuine question, is it that available? If I wanted to indulge in a bag of gear, I wouldn’t even know who to ask or contact up here to get it. Secondly is this stuff that’s being consumed strong enough to have any effect beyond a minor buzz? It’s being pointed at for a lot of behaviour but then others argue it’s virtually washing powder.
chiefdave
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Obviously a different type of venue / event but when I was running music venues drug taking was very much the responsibility of the venue staff & doormen. In fact if the police did have to deal with it you'd be up before the licensing committee having to explain why there was drug use in your venue.
I guess the difference here is the club are paying the police to be there and it may fall under their responsibilities. Should be a pretty easy one for Boddy to clear up.
I guess the difference here is the club are paying the police to be there and it may fall under their responsibilities. Should be a pretty easy one for Boddy to clear up.
JAM See
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This article is four years old,.,I'm not an expert on cocaine but...
Purity of cocaine in Europe at highest level in decade, report finds
Number of people seeking treatment for use of drug is on the rise, says EU study
Saddlebrains
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Tbf I've had enough of it
Looking at all putting toward a box next year there's about 8 or 9 of us that go regularly.
Im sick of taking my daughter to the bog and there's piss everywhere, empty coke bags on the floor, even had to wipe some off the bog roll holders before. Let alone the influx of manbag sporting chavs that seem to be everywhere now
Not what I want to be seeing with a 7 year old girl asking questions
Looking at all putting toward a box next year there's about 8 or 9 of us that go regularly.
Im sick of taking my daughter to the bog and there's piss everywhere, empty coke bags on the floor, even had to wipe some off the bog roll holders before. Let alone the influx of manbag sporting chavs that seem to be everywhere now
Not what I want to be seeing with a 7 year old girl asking questions
cc84cov
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100% agree mate it’s sad isn’t it
cc84cov
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The club will do nothing,I’m not putting my kids around it it’s been going on every week mate
shmmeee
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Im not blaming you for doing it, just musing on how the club would respond.
I haven’t seen any coke consumption - is it mostly in the gents‘ toilets? There was a strong smell of weed in the first half yesterday (block 16) which has happened before and is pretty nauseating. The standing all game has spread into block 16 recently. I choose to sit in that section - love the atmosphere and singing - but if it continues and spreads further down, I’d have to rethink my seat. I can’t stand all game. I accept it‘s the norm at away games and that I’ll miss parts of the game to sit for a few minutes but I don’t want to do that at home. Since going back after Covid, I’ve also noticed the bad lanaguage. I must just have been accustomed to it before, and I do swear myself sometimes but the constant use of the c word in particular really grates on me. I’ve absolutely loved the football this season but after 50+ years of going, the match day experience not so much.
cc84cov
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I’m sure they must get feedback each week & be aware already
chiefdave
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For every person that is fed up and decides to move to more expensive seats how many are fed up and just decide not to attend anymore?
Covkid1968#
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Ive seen it being passed around like it’s a cheeky hip flask. I’m 50 plus… live in a tiny village… mix with people I’ve been around for years…many respectable professionals aging from 40 to 60. And yet on nights out have had lines racked up and offered as part of a night out and been offered it as part of a football day out, asked if I want to contribute to a bag. That sort of behaviour is way back in my past but I can see how young guys would have even more opportunities and feel inclined to get on it if their mates are… then they turn into dicks… trouble is if the whole group are dicks they probably don’t recognise anything wrong in their own behaviour. As to the quality… I’ve no idea. But I think we can all imagine it’s cut with all sorts of crap in there.
13th_choice_seamer
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Mate, your house sounds horrible
Grendel
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It’s a silly argument to say stewards can control drunken morons who break rules. The one in my section at the entrance is a young girl she looks about 20
these aren’t security guards they are people earning a few pounds doing a pretty dull job but without whom we can’t play
if there is drugs being done in the toilets report it to the authorities so they can take action - a few years ago i had to collect a ticket on match day as I’d lost mine and the bloke in front was calling some young girl a bitch and telling her to fuck off. I just wandered over to a policeman nearby and he dragged him away - not hard is it
these aren’t security guards they are people earning a few pounds doing a pretty dull job but without whom we can’t play
if there is drugs being done in the toilets report it to the authorities so they can take action - a few years ago i had to collect a ticket on match day as I’d lost mine and the bloke in front was calling some young girl a bitch and telling her to fuck off. I just wandered over to a policeman nearby and he dragged him away - not hard is it
Saddlebrains
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Thing is on the back of this, said drunken/whiffed up morons then kick off when confronted. Catch fucking 22
Im sat there with a 12 and 7 year old. Do i allow it and let them think its the norm? No.
Do i report it to a steward/copper/confront the twat, then leading to said drunken/whiffed up prick giving it the violence retort in front of the kids? Fuck that
The atmosphere has been fantastic and no doubt the noise created has led to many a poi t being gained this year.
But theres no getting away from the fact that we've got a new breed of c**t, and also so many blokes having a mid life crisis and thinking invading pitches etc is banter
13th_choice_seamer
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Well as much as I wouldn't mess with Sting
a) there's only 3 of them
b) they're all 70+ now and
c) no real prospect of them getting back together - certainly not for minimum wage steward wages. Copeland and Summers don't need that sort of money.
Brighton Sky Blue
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13th_choice_seamer
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Sorry I should have done that one last night but fluffed my chance then as had a couple of beers
SkyBlueMatt
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I don't want drinking in the stands but the odd person bringing a pint up, as long as they don't chuck it over someone since that seems to be the moronic thing to do when a goal is scored. Its not really hurting anyone?
As for coke, more needs to be done about it. I don't partake but considering I'm normally on the beers, I've noticed how bad it is. So those that are more family orientated, especially those with young kids, its going to be a really negative experience.
Its a much wider problem though and football just has a big audience of that age range. It seems to be everywhere on a Friday and Saturday night.
I'm not condoning or excusing anything but I've heard people called those blocks 'asbo corner' since the ground opened. I don't think it would be a shock to find antisocial behaviour there.
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As for coke, more needs to be done about it. I don't partake but considering I'm normally on the beers, I've noticed how bad it is. So those that are more family orientated, especially those with young kids, its going to be a really negative experience.
Its a much wider problem though and football just has a big audience of that age range. It seems to be everywhere on a Friday and Saturday night.
I'm not condoning or excusing anything but I've heard people called those blocks 'asbo corner' since the ground opened. I don't think it would be a shock to find antisocial behaviour there.
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Terry_dactyl
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There was a bloke/lad stood outside at the end of the cardiff game, reminded me of when I used to leave those brummie nightclubs in the 90s…absolutely off his face.
I can’t decide if I’m outraged or jealous!
13th_choice_seamer
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Well if it's banned (and that's in law, so not the club's choice) you have to restrict it. Otherwise we risk getting into licensing issues and a possible sanction like a fine which, judging by our latest accounts, we can't really afford.
If the authorities did decide to unban drinking in stadiums, one way to do it would be to create mandatory "dry areas" in grounds and have segregated areas where drinking is allowed in the seating, not allowing for any movement between the two. At the Ricoh, I'm thinking that the central 6 blocks in the East Stand and the whole West stand could be designated as drinking areas i.e. the responsible/family sections where people generally remain seated and frankly can be trusted to enjoy a pint without doing anything anti-social.
The rest of the ground where people stand, sing and are generally more rowdy would be designated "dry" to minimise the chance of trouble emerging. You would need a partition to stop people moving between the blocks, both in the bowl and on the concourse though, which might cause problems. To be fair this idea would work better at grounds (like HR!) with 4 separate stands rather than a continuous bowl.
I do think that could give us the best of both worlds;
- more revenue through F&B sales
- more people turning up who like a responsible drink at the ground
- safer/more enjoyable experience for families
Thoughts?
Yes, I’m sure recreating the 1980s matchday experience will make the families feel safer in the ground.
13th_choice_seamer
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UK law bans drinking at football but not other sports. I have drunk beer in stands watching cricket, rugby, horse racing and rugby league without assaulting anyone, but it's the knobhead minority they're worried about. Judging by events this season e.g. Derby, lifting the ban may be unwise.
Terry_dactyl
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Problems associated with Drinking during the Rugby internationals has become a major problem in Wales.
I think they now close the bars at halftime and serve weaker lager generally.