cc84cov
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I stand by it too anyone who just ambles around the pitch pulling out of tackles shouldn’t be near it
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Sky Blue Harry H
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Chris Waddle used to amble too. Not defending Shippers particularly, but his languid style makes him an easy target. he got on the end of a lot of chances in previous seasons. That doesn't happen if you are ambling about. He may not be at 'Championship' level, but as others have pointed out, you don't become a professional footballer without application.
fatso
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He will be gone at the end of the season.
cc84cov
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Unbelievable he didn’t take the fee offered in January
fatso
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He's a bit of a utility player, so it made sence to hang on to him for half a season, especially when you consider the number of players we off loaded on loan etc.
And we hadn't got Bidwell in at the time, but I can't see him being here next season, especially as MR wants to revamp the squad.
better days
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Really weird the way some football fans use such horrible language against players
There are a minority where a player's agent wangles an obscene contract after which the player downs tools.
Jack Rodwell and Mezut Ozil are some of the worst examples of this type
Frankly they deserve all the stick they get
But lads like Shipley who does his best but which may not be good enough at the level we've now achieved shouldn't be pilloried as he is in certain quarters
And of course his Dad is going to think his son is a better player than more objective judges
Social media has a lot to answer for
There are a minority where a player's agent wangles an obscene contract after which the player downs tools.
Jack Rodwell and Mezut Ozil are some of the worst examples of this type
Frankly they deserve all the stick they get
But lads like Shipley who does his best but which may not be good enough at the level we've now achieved shouldn't be pilloried as he is in certain quarters
And of course his Dad is going to think his son is a better player than more objective judges
Social media has a lot to answer for
cc84cov
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Do you think pulling out of tackles & giving up chasing & struggling to ever complete 90 mins is doing is best ? To anyone who’s played the game that’s lack of heart & effort to even pull out of a challenge,he’s not even close to fit enough to last a game.
better days
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He was a decent player at L1 level
He's not great in the tackle but there are others in the squad of whom you could say the same
His fitness levels aren't great but as you say, anyone who's played the game knows that game fitness only comes after a run of games
I'm not saying the lad should be playing, just that he gets a disproportionate amount of stick
Especially as he's a local lad who cares about the club
cc84cov
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Hyam is an example of someone doing their best not someone who pulls out of tackles & can’t be arsed to chase a man,there is no excuse for it
better days
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I'm not going to convince you. am I?
cc84cov
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Cares about the club ? He gets paid it’s his job,I’m not O’Hare biggest fan at times but Christ that’s a lad who cares he doesn’t ever give up doesn’t pull out of tackles or stop chasing a man he also doesn’t wander around shoulders down,watching it yesterday at pitch side was painful
cc84cov
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Not on this one mate unfortunately not I may go over board at times but I’m not having it with Shipley he’s not fit to wear that shirt and I’m shocked robins puts up with itI'm not going to convince you. am I?
better days
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O'Hare still gets stick in some quarters though
Amazingly as far as I'm concerned
Anyway, each to their own
cc84cov
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I give O’Hare stick at times as I want more I go over board at times too I’ll hold my hands up but as a paying fan I don’t want a player at our club who does what Shipley does...just my opinion of course but I don’t think I stand alone.
Ccfcisparks
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You're barking up the wrong tree mate, he was writing off Bidwell after 15 minutes of his debut.
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cc84cov
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I was apparently writing Tavares off with you failed to find the stuff backing it up
SkyblueDad
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He wrote off Simon Moore before he had kicked a ball in anger for the first team
cc84cov
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No I didn’t lol find me that can you ????
You wanted dabo at cdm and pretend you have family at the academy so you then have access to accounts...
Least I didn’t embarrass myself that bad I had to make a new account though hey @Magwitch1
tommy hutch legend
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just about sums his opinions up then
Bugsy
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No I didn’t lol find me that can you ????
You wanted dabo at cdm and pretend you have family at the academy so you then have access to accounts...
Least I didn’t embarrass myself that bad I had to make a new account though hey @Magwitch1
you're on the right path
cc84cov
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Mate rest assured you’ll never see me use another account unless I get myself banned then I’ll be back with vengeance
cc84cov
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He can’t find this stuff though mate ? At least find the comments of me slagging him off first and we can discuss it further no ?
People slagged him after his first game in the loss on tour I’m sure the thread can be found.
Grendel
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I never really get why Shipley gets it in tbe neck. He is what he is. He’s worked at his game and did well in league 1 - he’s appearance record is almost identical to Kelly - he’s scored I think 17 league goals which is far more than any other midfielder at the club
A manager would always like a Shipley in the squad - he’s a modern day Paul Telfer - fans never really want a Paul Telfer in the squad
cc84cov
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Telfer
your deluded G at least max who you didn’t like grafted for the shirt mate you couldn’t knock his heart and desire
Grendel
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Telfer
A manager would take a Telfer above a Biamou any day of the week
cc84cov
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Only manager that would do that is one who’s golf partner was Paul Telfer,still can’t believe I watched him line up againt Ronaldinho in the champions league
Grendel
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Only manager that would do that is one who’s golf partner was Paul Telfer,still can’t believe I watched him line up againt Ronaldinho in the champions league
I don’t think strachan managed him at Luton Bournemouth or Leeds but ok whatever
tommy hutch legend
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sensible comments agree
cc84cov
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Southampton Coventry & Celtic he did though
SkyblueDad
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Paul Telfer was another player some fans loved to hate, had his limitations but always seemed to put a shift in.
I never liked Telfer at the time. However now I’m older I appreciate the type of character he was and the effort he made. He wasn’t all that bad either
cc84cov
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That’s the difference telfer put a shift in the fact Grendel compared them is comical
SkyblueDad
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Funny thing with Telfer is he hadn’t been here long and a club can’t remember which one put in an at the time big bid in for him which was turned down unusual for us which was popular with our fans. His popularity didn’t last
clint van damme
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I rarely give players a hard time but I thought Shipley looked uninterested and half hearted against Bristol.
I've often defended him in the past including last season but I didn't like what I saw last Tuesday. Just my opinion.