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PVA

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Apparently he's been admitted to hospital with 'shock and stress'.

Not sure the old sympathy card will wash.
 

Grendel

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Nah, it's worrying. If you've got any empathy that is.

I can’t stand Martin Lewis

I was never that bothered about privatising utilities as it’s something the state could own as with rail which I’ve always said should never have been privatised

The problem is neither party in the uk know how to deal with it and most of Europe don’t either. Windfall tax is utter bollocks.

Inflation is starting to gallop - ice cream and jelly in Downing Street will not bring down a government but inflation will - especially now as no one has witnessed it.

It will bring the government down - you should be pleased - though a 5% lead in the polls should be 15% in reality
 

clint van damme

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I can’t stand Martin Lewis

I was never that bothered about privatising utilities as it’s something the state could own as with rail which I’ve always said should never have been privatised

The problem is neither party in the uk know how to deal with it and most of Europe don’t either. Windfall tax is utter bollocks.

Inflation is starting to gallop - ice cream and jelly in Downing Street will not bring down a government but inflation will - especially now as no one has witnessed it.

It will bring the government down - you should be pleased - though a 5% lead in the polls should be 15% in reality

Martin Lewis isn't the problem, he really isn't.
And hubris will bring down this government and allow in an equally useless twat by default.
 

Grendel

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Martin Lewis isn't the problem, he really isn't.
And hubris will bring down this government and allow in an equally useless twat by default.

oh Starmer won’t win a majority the strategy is already in action

well strategy 1 at least. It’s Penis gate. Brexit revisited is plan B
 

Grendel

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I see Pete is angry at my Martin Lewis post - can’t see why
 

CCFCSteve

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Surely the most sensible option would be to bring back the ‘temporary’ UC uplift

I read that the inflationary increase for benefits which comes in this month is 3% which is based on the inflation figure from Sept ‘21. A lots obviously changed since then so it’s not hard to justify the additional uplift until inflation settles down…in actual fact I’d imagine the VAT on higher fuel costs would pay for a fair bit of it
 

Ian1779

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Surely the most sensible option would be to bring back the ‘temporary’ UC uplift

I read that the inflationary increase for benefits which comes in this month is 3% which is based on the inflation figure from Sept ‘21. A lots obviously changed since then so it’s not hard to justify the additional uplift until inflation settles down…in actual fact I’d imagine the VAT on higher fuel costs would pay for a fair bit of it
Not sure that is gonna cut it. Millions of people being forced into poverty with spiralling petrol, utility and food prices
 

Grendel

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And here is what he's said he'd do.

It's basically copying France as far as I can see. But it's a fuck load more than the Tories are doing.



I’m genuinely mystified wasn’t his suggestion £600 will solve the crises abs that would be achieved by an unspecified windfall tax?
 
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I was never that bothered about privatising utilities as it’s something the state could own as with rail which I’ve always said should never have been privatised

The problem is neither party in the uk know how to deal with it and most of Europe don’t either.
For better or worse, a nationalised utility allows government to dictate prices a lot more easily, even if it means running at a loss.

Inflation is indeed becoming a worry. Couple that, however, with energy prices and it becomes even more of a worry.
 

Grendel

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For better or worse, a nationalised utility allows government to dictate prices a lot more easily, even if it means running at a loss.

Inflation is indeed becoming a worry. Couple that, however, with energy prices and it becomes even more of a worry.

You should be happy with short term pain - inflation will bring the government down. The only hope they have is the bank rate is suppressed which will stop house price collapse
 
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You should be happy with short term pain - inflation will bring the government down. The only hope they have is the bank rate is suppressed which will stop house price collapse
Inflation is hard to stop though - stopping it is probably what helped to bring Major's government down really - more so than its existence.

As for house prices, from a self centred POV, and needing to move, I'd quite like them to collapse really!
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Grendel

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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no he also has put £250 to solve it. Why did you say it was like France?
1. £250 < £600

2. A loan is giving people £0. Or perhaps we should all be eternally grateful to him because at least he's not charging Wonga levels of interest on it, which I'm sure would be many of his colleagues preference.
 

Grendel

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No he's giving us £200... which we will then have to pay back.

A £200 loan, thanks little Rishi!

So how will £600 be paid? Not from general taxation is it? If it’s only that that solves fuel poverty it’s much ado about nothing? Won’t mr Starmer and Mr Johnson be getting it as well as me or is it means tested?
 

PVA

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So how will £600 be paid? Not from general taxation is it? If it’s only that that solves fuel poverty it’s much ado about nothing? Won’t mr Starmer and Mr Johnson be getting it as well as me or is it means tested?

Have you been on the sherry again?

Nobody said it would solve fuel poverty.

But you do realise 600 is more than 200, right?
 

Grendel

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Have you been on the sherry again?

Nobody said it would solve fuel poverty.

But you do realise 600 is more than 200, right?

Mr Starmer says it will solve fuel poverty and I suspect he’s more Dom Perignon vintage than Sherry and again please tell me his “strategy” to pay it. Also it’s £400 so if it’s really £35 a month that’s the issue why is is it an issue?
 

PVA

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Mr Starmer says it will solve fuel poverty and I suspect he’s more Dom Perignon vintage than Sherry and again please tell me his “strategy” to pay it. Also it’s £400 so if it’s really £35 a month that’s the issue why is is it an issue?


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