Do you want to discuss boring politics? (60 Viewers)

[Grendel]

That's the trouble. Those that get involved tend to treat it like a game, because for them it doesn't matter. Whatever happens they'll still have a sweet life.

Football is a game.

Hungry fucking Hippos is a game.

Politics is what decides what kind of life millions of people will have. That is NOT a game.

politics makes difference generally on the margins

I believe myself and my family because of personal circumstances regarding taxation and likely pension impacts am better off with the status quo

Down to the opposition to make a case that’s better for me

 

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[PVA]

im taking it badly?

I think it’s funny

That's not the impressive boast you think it is. Says a lot about you.

 

[stupot07]

As always. Bang on the money



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[Grendel]

That's not the impressive boast you think it is. Says a lot about you.

politics is a game. It’s a game - it’s the earnest self indulgent that get angry and don’t understand why they never get their way

it’s a career - and that was really started by Blair - and it continues to be so

I once on here wrote a long post congratulating Jeremy Corbyn and started a thread on John McDonnell praising him because even though their politics I dispute bought an old fashioned debating style of conviction politics — McDonnell was rather good wasn’t it for the Sinn Fein suck up nonsense

If labour want a serious debate get the pointless liberal rather useless dribbler out and stand for what it wants and get someone like Rayner in.

otherwise it’s same old same old

 

[Deleted member 9744]

I don’t really care to be honest

Are you Nadine Dorries?

 

[CCFCSteve]

Gayles reaction is significant

Its likely Johnson will stay and a wait and see policy regarding polls on the next few months with a suitable candidates being tested on the electorate

Agreed and Ross. Think it will only be delaying the inevitable though

 

[rob9872]

Six months ago we discovered bloke at work had some cake on his birthday a year before in the middle of a busy day and made it important news for a few weeks. Now he's been fined and apologised and people still want to make it news and hang him for it. Whilst constantly accusing others of being apologetic for him, their own agenda is blinded by their hatred for him.

I assume you do realise that if hes forced to step down the loonies aren't back in charge of the asylum and that there will be another Tory you hate in charge? Surely now it's time to move on?

 

[Deleted member 9744]

This is probably when we find out if sunak believes No 10 was behind the leaks about his wife

If Sunak walks due to it being ‘the right thing to do’ after being found to have broken the law, it probably brings Johnson down with him. If he was already close to quitting after last week this could happen

If Johnson receives any more fines he’s definitely done, even if this is the only one misleading the House could well bring him down

Or kick Carrie out for organising the surprise party and blame her

Sunak should resign if he wants to be PM. Then Johnson would have to. Sunak could come back in a couple years. Johnson couldn't.

 

[Grendel]

Sunak should resign if he wants to be PM. Then Johnson would have to. Sunak could come back in a couple years. Johnson couldn't.

Sunak has as much chance of being PM as Max Biamou playing in the championship again

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Six months ago we discovered bloke at work had some cake on his birthday a year before in the middle of a busy day and made it important news for a few weeks. Now he's been fined and apologised and people still want to make it news and hang him for it. Whilst constantly accusing others of being apologetic for him, their own agenda is blinded by their hatred for him.

I assume you do realise that if hes forced to step down the loonies aren't back in charge of the asylum and that there will be another Tory you hate in charge? Surely now it's time to move on?

Don't be so stupid. It's not on the level of some that Earlsdon has mentioned, but I got bloody married without Mrs Wisdom's brothers there because of the rules and regulations at the time, and the desire to keep people safe. I didn't see my Mum properly until she was nearly at death's door, because we weren't supposed to and it was for the greater good. And yes, I backed Boris Johnson for setting those rules, and doing the right thing. We were supposed to be all in this together.

But he can't even keep his own bloody rules, he stamps on peoples' own trials, tribulations, he shows his total inability to say a single truthful sentence, and shows limited regard for people, it seems. If there was one thing I could have said of Johnson it was that he understood people but it seems not, he lives in an ivory tower where he decides he's entitled, and more important than others - that the rules he set don't apply to him!

So don't start talking about an agenda and showing yourself to be vapid, facile, and actually mildly insulting. Others have far worse woe is me, and people without direct instances to quote have pushed themselves to the brink psychologically keeping to the rules as set because... we're all in this together.

And it turns out (maybe unsurprisingly) that the Prime Minister is only in it for himself. He's spent however long trying to cover up the fact rather than just fronting it out because he's a yellow bellied coward who's never taken responsibility for anything in his life.

 

[skybluetony176]

Spare a thought for Allegra Stratton who was forced to resign for just joking about the parties.

 

[It’sabatch87]

Starmer is a shoe in for the next election if Boris doesn’t go surely?

 

[Grendel]

Starmer is a shoe in for the next election if Boris doesn’t go surely?

Would I think need a bit of help

 

[It’sabatch87]

 

[clint van damme]

Spare a thought for Allegra Stratton who was forced to resign for just joking about the parties.

Naah!

 

[clint van damme]

Six months ago we discovered bloke at work had some cake on his birthday a year before in the middle of a busy day and made it important news for a few weeks. Now he's been fined and apologised and people still want to make it news and hang him for it. Whilst constantly accusing others of being apologetic for him, their own agenda is blinded by their hatred for him.

I assume you do realise that if hes forced to step down the loonies aren't back in charge of the asylum and that there will be another Tory you hate in charge? Surely now it's time to move on?

 

[Terry_dactyl]

It’s terrible isn’t it really. I think we all know that. I’ve not bothered to read most of this thread but if there’s anyone defending Johnson/Sunak et al they’re on the wind-up.
Their behaviour transcends party politics.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

It’s terrible isn’t it really. I think we all know that. I’ve not bothered to read most of this thread but if there’s anyone defending Johnson/Sunak et al they’re on the wind-up.
Their behaviour transcends party politics.

I'm genuinely surprised Sunak ends up getting fined too, I must admit.

 

[PVA]

Six months ago we discovered bloke at work had some cake on his birthday a year before in the middle of a busy day and made it important news for a few weeks. Now he's been fined and apologised and people still want to make it news and hang him for it. Whilst constantly accusing others of being apologetic for him, their own agenda is blinded by their hatred for him.

I assume you do realise that if hes forced to step down the loonies aren't back in charge of the asylum and that there will be another Tory you hate in charge? Surely now it's time to move on?

Read this and see if you still hold that opinion.

 

[PVA]

There's going to be more isn't there? This is just for one party. He's going to get more fines and these idiots coming out to bat for him are going to look more and more stupid.

They don't half make it worse for themselves.

 

[David O'Day]

Read this and see if you still hold that opinion.

The farmer boy is just an even more stupid Grenners.

 

[Grendel]

The farmer boy is just an even more stupid Grenners.

 

[skybluetony176]

There's going to be more isn't there? This is just for one party. He's going to get more fines and these idiots coming out to bat for him are going to look more and more stupid.

They don't half make it worse for themselves.

Tory MP Roger Gayle seems to think there’s possibly two more and there’s rumours of 7 altogether. He ain’t a man to miss a party even going to the trouble of ditching his security detail and getting on a plane so if there was 22 Tory lockdown parties (think it was 22 at the last count) there’s no way he only attended one.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Tory MP Roger Gayle seems to think there’s possibly two more and there’s rumours of 7 altogether. He ain’t a man to miss a party even going to the trouble of ditching his security detail and getting on a plane so if there was 22 Tory lockdown parties (think it was 22 at the last count) there’s no way he only attended one.

I thought we were working lol

 

[skybluetony176]

I thought we were working lol

Working on a hangover.

 

[Frostie]

Tory MP Roger Gayle seems to think there’s possibly two more and there’s rumours of 7 altogether. He ain’t a man to miss a party even going to the trouble of ditching his security detail and getting on a plane so if there was 22 Tory lockdown parties (think it was 22 at the last count) there’s no way he only attended one.

 

[Evo1883]

Watching people make excuses on my Facebook for old Boris and sunak

Weirdos , get them fucking gone

 

[skybluetony176]

The excellent Dan Hodges making a very good point.



Spare a thought for all those people who lost their job as part of operation Save Big Dog only to find out he did it all along.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

There's going to be more isn't there? This is just for one party. He's going to get more fines and these idiots coming out to bat for him are going to look more and more stupid.

They don't half make it worse for themselves.

I'm asking two questions

1. How many fines will he end up with?
2. Who he's going to get to pay them for him?

 

[BodicoteSkyBlue]

I'm asking two questions

1. How many fines will he end up with?
2. Who he's going to get to pay them for him?

Sneak it through on expenses??

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

politics is a game. It’s a game - it’s the earnest self indulgent that get angry and don’t understand why they never get their way

This from the same man who was indignant that SISU' failure to invest in a football club jeopardised the livelihood of a few dozen people (which was a fair point).

Meanwhile, organisation that, directly and indirectly, is the biggest employer in the country and who's decisions impact every aspect of the lives of the people of this country - their earning and spending ability, their health, the environment they live in and much more besides. Just a game, mate.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Anyone remember when the Met said these work events weren't worthy of investigation?

 

[Otis]

Six months ago we discovered bloke at work had some cake on his birthday a year before in the middle of a busy day and made it important news for a few weeks. Now he's been fined and apologised and people still want to make it news and hang him for it. Whilst constantly accusing others of being apologetic for him, their own agenda is blinded by their hatred for him.

I assume you do realise that if hes forced to step down the loonies aren't back in charge of the asylum and that there will be another Tory you hate in charge? Surely now it's time to move on?

My mum died. She was in a home.

I last saw her in the early March and she died at the end of June. That was nearly three months that I was unable to visit or see her.

But yeah, sure. Definitely time to move on.

 

[skybluetony176]

Anyone remember when the Met said these work events weren't worthy of investigation?

Sounds like the mayor of London was right to have no confidence in Clarissa Dick.

 

[rob9872]

My mum died. She was in a home.

I last saw her in the early March and she died at the end of June. That was nearly three months that I was unable to visit or see her.

But yeah, sure. Definitely time to move on.

I'm sorry for your loss, but I'm not suggesting you move on from your mother, I'm suggesting we allow the pm to move on and govern as elected. Removing him from office will be another sideshow whilst we go through rounds of votes and jostling for position, reshuffling the ministers and generally wasting time when there are more important things going on in the world. Removing him from office sadly won't bring back yours or anyone else's loved ones.