Do you want to discuss boring politics? (175 Viewers)

[skybluetony176]

I'm sorry for your loss, but I'm not suggesting you move on from your mother, I'm suggesting we allow the pm to move on and govern as elected. Removing him from office will be another sideshow whilst we go through rounds of votes and jostling for position, reshuffling the ministers and generally wasting time when there are more important things going on in the world. Removing him from office sadly won't bring back yours or anyone else's loved ones.

Fuck the PM. He’s a c**t.

 

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[PVA]

I'm suggesting we allow the pm to move on and govern as elected.

Just because he was elected does not give him free reign to break the law.

Was he elected to break the law?

 

[Otis]

I'm sorry for your loss, but I'm not suggesting you move on from your mother, I'm suggesting we allow the pm to move on and govern as elected. Removing him from office will be another sideshow whilst we go through rounds of votes and jostling for position, reshuffling the ministers and generally wasting time when there are more important things going on in the world. Removing him from office sadly won't bring back yours or anyone else's loved ones.

He broke the rules. The rules he brought in and we adhered to.

There are more important things than having a PM who serves a self-interest and has been found to have constantly lied?

 

[clint van damme]

I'm sorry for your loss, but I'm not suggesting you move on from your mother, I'm suggesting we allow the pm to move on and govern as elected. Removing him from office will be another sideshow whilst we go through rounds of votes and jostling for position, reshuffling the ministers and generally wasting time when there are more important things going on in the world. Removing him from office sadly won't bring back yours or anyone else's loved ones.

He's introduced the laws that Otis abided by that prevented him from seeing his mother and then broke those laws himself, (the first sitting PM to be found guilty of a crime by the way), yet you're struggling to see why people are pissed off?

Honestly, I find that incredible.

 

[clint van damme]

 

[Deleted member 9744]

My mum died. She was in a home.

I last saw her in the early March and she died at the end of June. That was nearly three months that I was unable to visit or see her.

But yeah, sure. Definitely time to move on.

So sorry to hear that mate.

Sadly many people had similar experiences and duly complied with law. That's exactly why what Johnson and Sunak did was a total disgrace. Certainly we shouldn't move on.

 

[rob9872]

He's introduced the laws that Otis abided by that prevented him from seeing his mother and then broke those laws himself, (the first sitting PM to be found guilty of a crime by the way), yet you're struggling to see why people are pissed off?

Honestly, I find that incredible.

Where have I said that? Of course I understand why people are annoyed, what I can differentiate is from the baying wolves trying remove him that serves no purpose and wastes more government time and money.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I'm sorry for your loss, but I'm not suggesting you move on from your mother, I'm suggesting we allow the pm to move on and govern as elected. Removing him from office will be another sideshow whilst we go through rounds of votes and jostling for position, reshuffling the ministers and generally wasting time when there are more important things going on in the world. Removing him from office sadly won't bring back yours or anyone else's loved ones.

I'm pretty sure people elected him on the implied expectation he would follow the rules of the country. He's broken that and so any contract is now null and void.

Removing him won't bring anyone's loved one's back, but it'd stop the feckless halfwit endangering any more. If he can't be arsed to take Covid seriously what other important issues has he sneeringly pushed aside because it doesn't fit into his ego trip? Arresting Harold Shipman didn't bring his victims back and we're always in need of more doctor's, so why not just let him get on with the job he was qualified to do?

Yeah, his replacement may well be just as much a c*** as he is, but at least there's a slim chance they might not be. With Johnson it's beyond doubt. 100% c***, 100% of the time.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Fuck the PM. He’s a c**t.

I think we have Labour's next election slogan.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

I'm sorry for your loss, but I'm not suggesting you move on from your mother, I'm suggesting we allow the pm to move on and govern as elected. Removing him from office will be another sideshow whilst we go through rounds of votes and jostling for position, reshuffling the ministers and generally wasting time when there are more important things going on in the world. Removing him from office sadly won't bring back yours or anyone else's loved ones.

You should have just stopped at the word 'loss'. Going on to say 'but' after what he said shows a complete lack of empathy and understanding.

 

[Otis]

Where have I said that? Of course I understand why people are annoyed, what I can differentiate is from the baying wolves trying remove him that serves no purpose and wastes more government time and money.

It serves no purpose? There is a man in number 10 Downing Street that so many now (from all sides of the political spectrum) have zero trust in.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Where have I said that? Of course I understand why people are annoyed, what I can differentiate is from the baying wolves trying remove him that serves no purpose and wastes more government time and money.

Serves no purpose??? How can you possibly come up with such idiocy.

We need a Prime Minister who doesn't just make the rules but also complies with them.

 

[Sky_Blue_Daz]

I don’t think he will have the decency to resign , I do think he will have the arrogance to call for a general election

 

[skybluetony176]

I think we have Labour's next election slogan.

Too long for the British public, anymore than a 3 word slogan and they find it too fancy to be true. Get c**t Out should be enough.

 

[Otis]

The first ever sitting PM to have broken the law.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Where have I said that? Of course I understand why people are annoyed, what I can differentiate is from the baying wolves trying remove him that serves no purpose and wastes more government time and money.

It serves no purpose other than removing a lying, law-breaking individual from the highest office in the land. I'd consider that to be quite a good purpose.

As for wasting government time and money, we're talking about the man that bought water cannons that couldn't be used legally, spent a fortune on a garden bridge that never happened along with a feasibility study on a NI/Scots bridge that anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of construction knows was utterly batshit crazy and who was in charge of letting Tory mates and donors massively overcharge for T&T/PPE contracts, many of which were unfit for purpose or never materialised and the money has not been reclaimed.

Yep, let's not waste government time and money...

 

[rob9872]

It serves no purpose other than removing a lying, law-breaking individual from the highest office in the land. I'd consider that to be quite a good purpose.

As for wasting government time and money, we're talking about the man that bought water cannons that couldn't be used legally, spent a fortune on a garden bridge that never happened along with a feasibility study on a NI/Scots bridge that anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of construction knows was utterly batshit crazy and who was in charge of letting Tory mates and donors massively overcharge for T&T/PPE contracts, many of which were unfit for purpose or never materialised and the money has not been reclaimed.

Yep, let's not waste government time and money...

All of which are more valid reasons than a fkn party!

 

[Deleted member 9744]

All of which are more valid reasons than a fkn party!

Which was breaking the law.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

All of which are more valid reasons than a fkn party!

Except that such parties were banned at the time.

Maybe we should let those in Sniffer's Corner try the excuse that it's fine for them to snort coke in the toilets because in the past it wasn't illegal.

 

[Otis]

You know the worst thing for me.

Standing at the door of the church at my mum's funeral, turning people away, because we had already met the 30 number limit.

That was heartbreaking.

People saw about the death in the paper, or heard by word of mouth and turned up to pay their respects, many of them, elderly.

I had to stand there and tell them they were not allowed in.



But it's okay, the PM and his cronies were having parties and we should just move on from that.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Johnson is a liar in the same way Putin lies. He just says it over and over again. Denial, deceit, lies.
He even continues to say , now the fine is confirmed, that he genuinely thought at the time it was okay. We know he's a liar. He knows we know and doesn't care.
Just like Putin.

 

[skybluetony176]

Where have I said that? Of course I understand why people are annoyed, what I can differentiate is from the baying wolves trying remove him that serves no purpose and wastes more government time and money.

If he’d have resigned in December when he clearly should have the last 4 months wouldn’t have been wasted. If he stays on the next 4 months will also be wasted. He’s already resisting calling back parliament to deal with Ukraine in an attempt to hide from scrutiny. He’s literally stopping democracy when it’s very much needed, he’s already a lame duck. Time to put him out of our misery.

 

[rob9872]

Except that such parties were banned at the time.

Maybe we should let those in Sniffer's Corner try the excuse that it's fine for them to snort coke in the toilets because in the past it wasn't illegal.

You think you're joking, but I couldn't care what people shove up their noses. I do care when it makes them aggressive and spoil the game for others. It's not the illegal drug taking that bothers me but the consequences and if people want him out I'm amazed the points you raised weren't pursued more strongly than a party which seems to get far more focus.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The excellent Dan Hodges making a very good point.



Spare a thought for all those people who lost their job as part of operation Save Big Dog only to find out he did it all along.

Leading the wests response ffs. Think Poland are

 

[Frostie]

You know the worst thing for me.

Standing at the door of the church at my mum's funeral, turning people away, because we had already met the 30 number limit.

That was heartbreaking.

People saw about the death in the paper, or heard by word of mouth and turned up to pay their respects, many of them, elderly.

I had to stand there and tell them they were not allowed in.



But it's okay, the PM and his cronies were having parties and we should just move on from that.

So sorry for your loss.
The fact that people want to dismiss this rampant law breaking & lying as "funny" & "fluff" is disgusting quite frankly.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

You think you're joking, but I couldn't care what people shove up their noses. I do care when it makes them aggressive and spoil the game for others. It's not the illegal drug taking that bothers me but the consequences and if people want him out I'm amazed the points you raised weren't pursued more strongly than a party which seems to get far more focus.

So the rule of law isn't important?

 

[clint van damme]

So sorry for your loss.
The fact that people want to dismiss this rampant law breaking & lying as "funny" & "fluff" is disgusting quite frankly.

Yep. Shame on them.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

My mum died. She was in a home.

I last saw her in the early March and she died at the end of June. That was nearly three months that I was unable to visit or see her.

But yeah, sure. Definitely time to move on.

I’m so sorry mate that’s so hard

 

[Deleted member 5849]

So sorry for your loss.
The fact that people want to dismiss this rampant law breaking & lying as "funny" & "fluff" is disgusting quite frankly.

I think Rob's got a new job as Johnson's PR advisor

 

[PVA]

Some fucking ridiculous cap doffing in here (admittedly by only two people).

'allow him to govern as elected'

Fuck sake.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

You think you're joking, but I couldn't care what people shove up their noses. I do care when it makes them aggressive and spoil the game for others. It's not the illegal drug taking that bothers me but the consequences and if people want him out I'm amazed the points you raised weren't pursued more strongly than a party which seems to get far more focus.

I think you need to pay more attention to this.

The consequences are that there are many, many families that will forever have the heartbreak of not being able to see their loved ones and tell them they loved them before they died. To find out the person that told them they couldn't do that didn't give a fuck and was doing whatever the fuck he liked is a huge, huge kick in the teeth for those people. Or should we all be like Johnson and not give a fuck about them because getting a new PM is a minor inconvenience?

 

[Otis]

Some fucking ridiculous cap doffing in here (admittedly by only two people).

'allow him to govern as elected'

Fuck sake.

It's disgusting and Johnson should go

And I would say exactly the same had it been Kier Starmer.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

You know the worst thing for me.

Standing at the door of the church at my mum's funeral, turning people away, because we had already met the 30 number limit.

That was heartbreaking.

People saw about the death in the paper, or heard by word of mouth and turned up to pay their respects, many of them, elderly.

I had to stand there and tell them they were not allowed in.



But it's okay, the PM and his cronies were having parties and we should just move on from that.

The letter from the covid group is heartbreaking as is your experience. Where I agree with rob is Johnson is a wanker who thinks nothing of you and you should think nothing of him and not waste a minute of your time worrying about his well-being or career

 

[PVA]

It's disgusting and Johnson should go

And I would say exactly the same had it been Kier Starmer.

I think most people are able to see past left/right, Tory/Labour to be able to say that the Prime Minister breaking the law is fucking serious.

Sadly some people just love the taste of Tory boots too much. Shame on them.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I think you need to pay more attention to this.

The consequences are that there are many, many families that will forever have the heartbreak of not being able to see their loved ones and tell them they loved them before they died. To find out the person that told them they couldn't do that didn't give a fuck and was doing whatever the fuck he liked is a huge, huge kick in the teeth for those people. Or should we all be like Johnson and not give a fuck about them because getting a new PM is a minor inconvenience?

Many didn’t and did what they wanted maybe everyone should have